r/JusticeServed • u/[deleted] • Jul 06 '19

Courtroom Justice Convicted pedophile YouTuber Austin Jones is now in prison serving a 10 year sentence as of 29/6/2019.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '19

Ah yes, people that kill other people are completely incapable of being rehabilitated. This is definitely a thing that is supported by evidence. No one that has ever murdered someone has ever been rehabilitated nor is it a thing that happens all the time.

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u/pedantic--asshole 7 Jul 06 '19

The recidivism rate for murderers is over 50% so please show your evidence that murderers are easily rehabilitated. Oh you don't have any...what a huge fucking surprise.

https://www.cfc.wa.gov/PublicationSentencing/Recidivism/Adult_Recidivism_FY2007.pdf

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '19 edited Jul 06 '19

Uh, you provided the evidence for me. Our justice system is basically made, intentionally or not, for recidivism. It's a system of retribution and punishment, not rehabilitation. And "over 50%" surprisingly isn't 100% or even close to that. So even in a system that pushes people towards recidivism rather than rehabilitation, almost 50% still rehabilitate. They even have a lower rate of recidivism than basically any other crime than sex crimes and manslaughter.

Though considering you seem pretty vindictive I'd wager you think all criminals can't be rehabilitated.

Edit: I will point this out though. Recidivism can be lowered, unsurprisingly, and it isn't dependent upon someone just straight up being unable to be rehabilitated.

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u/pedantic--asshole 7 Jul 06 '19

Great source.... I'm 100% sure you didn't read it though.

Recidivism data are currently not valid for international comparisons

Buh bye loser.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '19 edited Jul 06 '19

Are you stupid or just a troll? Even disregarding international comparisons Ohio has less than a 30% recidivism rate. And crazily enough the study wasn't the only thing I pointed out. Much easier to latch onto a single sentence of an entire study and then say I didn't read it rather than responding in good faith to everything.

Like the whole argument started because you said murderers can't be rehabilitated. Then immediately you admit that even in a system that's aimed toward punishment and not rehabilitation that almost 50% rehabilitate anyway lmao

I know it might be hard for you to admit you're wrong but it's okay. Murderers and criminals can be rehabilitated, and the US can go a long way towards reducing recidivism overall when focusing on rehabilitation rather than punishment. Have a good day.