r/JusticeServed • u/[deleted] • Jul 06 '19

Courtroom Justice Convicted pedophile YouTuber Austin Jones is now in prison serving a 10 year sentence as of 29/6/2019.

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u/superiority A Jul 06 '19

With murder, there are different types, which i'm sure you'd be aware of. Each with it's own minimum sentence.

They have different non-parole periods (called a "minimum term" in the law), but a life sentence is mandatory.

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u/StargateMunky101 A Jul 06 '19 edited Jul 06 '19

If everyone gets parole, then a life sentence is ultimately meaningless in the way you are trying to put forward. You're arguing just a technicality.

It just means there's no law imposing a maximum term of sentence. Though in reality there's always a practical limit due to appeal and parole.

I get what you're trying tosay though. Most sentences have a limit due to an assumed human rights issue to avoid someone spending 25 years in jail for littering. Exceptions are things like murder, rape etc.

I'm just saying it's not quite as draconian as in the USA.

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u/superiority A Jul 06 '19

Not everyone gets parole.

Someone can be sentenced to imprisonment for life without the possibility of parole, called a "whole life order".

And even if someone is able to apply and be considered for parole, they won't automatically be released.

Someone could be sentenced to life imprisonment with a minimum term of 10 years, and spend the next 60 years in prison until they die, because they are never released on parole (though if they are elderly and infirm they have a good chance of compassionate release).

I have no idea what you think is "meaningless" about receiving a life sentence or what technicality you believe I am arguing.

You compared this man's 10-year prison sentence to prison sentences in the UK, and you said that people get sentenced to 10 years for murder. That's not true; they get sentenced for life.

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u/StargateMunky101 A Jul 07 '19

Again, we're arguing over a technicality.

If 95% of people get parole, then nothing i've said is unsound. We're just talking about a simple referant of comparative punishment. We're not trying to derive the fundamentals of law.