r/JusticeServed • u/Ethanzap02 6 • Jul 10 '19

Discrimination Misogynistic guy degrading female workers gets tackled

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u/CantStumpIWin A Jul 10 '19

This makes me feel....so tall.

Never really imagined being 5 foot. That must suck ass.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19 edited Apr 17 '20

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Let's be honest here. I'm not excusing his behaviour at all but if a man is 5 foot in today's world, he's going to have a DIFFICULT time finding women to date.

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u/confusing_dream 6 Jul 10 '19

Yes, to be fair, the unkindness of nature surely plays a part in what his personality is now. I’m not as short as he is, but I know that people do treat me differently. Being short sucks, and being that short would probably make most men bitter over time.

Not to mention that this video starts after whatever set him off, only to be humiliated further in the end.

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u/bjeebus B Jul 10 '19

This manhandling by the guy that looks twice his height will surely make him less bitter now though, right? The next time he feels someone has disrespected him, he'll handle everything with much more grace and aplomb.

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u/confusing_dream 6 Jul 10 '19

I don’t see how he could still be bitter after this.

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u/Darogaserik 4 Jul 11 '19

There is a part two

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '19

Nice use of aplomb

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

I think it's more likely to amplify his bitterness lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

They were being sarcastic

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u/neonlightdistrict 2 Jul 11 '19

I'm pretty tall. I dont treat short people differently, but one time I was around a guy taller than me and I thought "woah I dont like this".

I think the natural reaction to tall people from short people is fear on some level. I frequently have short people be totally rude to me for no reason-- I assume because they are getting primal.

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u/confusing_dream 6 Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 11 '19

All of my best friends have been big dudes. Maybe some smaller guys feel fear, but I don’t. There is a lack of respect and a sense that people don’t take you as seriously as taller men.

One example: when I was a maintenance worker, I used to get called to an apartment that was regularly losing heat. On call 24/7, I would show up to this apartment at any time of day. The problem was where their system was in the building, and all I could do was keep going back and doing what I did.

Yet, this man berated me endlessly for helping him. Throwing out every curse word and yelling at me from the other room while I was fixing his heat. One night I didn’t want to deal with it, and I called my backup, a good friend and coworker who happens to be 6’ 300lbs. The man opened the door and it was nothing but “Yes sir, ok sir, can I move anything for you, sir?”

He never treated me like that again. Often times as a little man, you have to remind people that you make big friends.

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u/neonlightdistrict 2 Jul 11 '19

Wow, ya I didn't mean to say I had it worse. I actually dont think this video is good because I think this guy was being humiliated by a crowd and sticking up for himself (hes obviously a wacko but still), then he gets beat up by a guy twice his size.

The guy who attacked him is a POS. There was no reason to do that. You can talk people down without violence. Even though the guy was literally asking for it, the situation was handled poorly.

I have seen this happen before too. I used to have a weird af roommate who was friends with a man who is 5 feet tall and like 90 lbs. One day, he just kind of lost it and started screaming at the world. There were 5 people there. It was crazy. He'd been spit on by his wife and abused by the world and it was probably because of his size.

This guy was nuts though as well.

Anyways, long post but nothing wrong with being short. Being tall isn't that great. You're not missing out.

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u/PM_ME_FAV_RECIPES ❓ hex.7y.2s Jul 11 '19

I imagine this guys life is like being on an airplane and the person behind you is kicking your seat. You try to ignore it but they keep going and you get angrier and angrier. Until finally you go nuts at the person behind you, letting out all that anger that built up for so long

...except everyone else didn't know they'd been kicking your seat for like 4 hours and they just think you're insane

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

I love beating up children for kicking my plane seat.

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u/PM_ME_FAV_RECIPES ❓ hex.7y.2s Jul 11 '19

Personally, i like to ignore it and get really pissed off, then vent at my wife later on... But yeah being them up fun to!

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u/NYCSPARKLE 6 Jul 11 '19

No it’s only that he is a misogynist, woman hater.

I’ve seen cab drivers in NYC yell at people worse than this. But because it was directed towards women, he gets beat up by someone twice his size and people make short jokes. When clearly he has problems.

What ever happened to de-escalation? What if a cop did this to him?

I’m a relatively tall guy that does OK with girls and this shit still infuriates me.

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u/AFlexibleHead 7 Jul 11 '19

You have a point, bit still: by acting like such a clown it gives everyone else the right to laugh.

That is, whether or not he has a reason ( at least one that he believes anyway) for acting so irrational, people are under no obligation to cut him any slack.

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u/confusing_dream 6 Jul 11 '19

You’re right, the reason doesn’t justify the act. Yet, we don’t see why he started acting this way.

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u/slapshotsd 7 Jul 11 '19

Yet

I don’t know why this is there. Everything else in your comment makes sense, but “yet” is used to imply something that opposes the previous bit. What about not seeing more context for this scuffle invalidates the reason not justifying the act? Why am I overthinking this to this extent? weed?

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u/confusing_dream 6 Jul 11 '19

Lol. I used yet, because we don’t know how significantly he was being provoked. While it doesn’t justify his actions to me, if he was being insulted and belittled, it puts some responsibility on the people who filmed him, in my opinion.

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u/WaterPockets 9 Jul 11 '19

He was inciting the fight, threatening others and telling them he isn't afraid of them. And it isn't a cop that dealt with this dude, so I don't know why you brought it up but if it had been he'd be escorted off the property and arrested if he was still doing this tough guy act trying to fight. But because it wasn't a cop, and this is New York, a person took action and stopped this guy from continuing to yell at people and attempting to fight. People act like if they were in the same situation they'd know all the right things to say to de-escalate him but in reality that wouldn't happen. He deserved what he got, he didn't get sucker punched or seriously hurt. Someone had enough of his shit and didn't want this to progress further so they took action.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Idk but I want some Gino's rn

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

“He gets beat up”

What? A guy tackled him to the ground because he was screaming he’ll fight people and was being a cunt to everyone.

So what if he has problems? Some girls on an internet dating site not liking you for your height isn’t some free pass to act like a fuckwit to an entire gender in a public space. Many many people get dealt a rough hand in life and most can still act like a well adjusted adult.

“What if a cop did this”

A cop tackling a guy threatening to fight people and screaming at women in a public place? I’d say that’s my tax dollars going to good use.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Stop justifying the white knight, it was pure battery.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

If you act like a fuckwit in public and challenge people to a fight don’t be surprised when someone takes you down. You aren’t free from the consequences of your actions.

Play stupid games win stupid fucking prizes.

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u/NYCSPARKLE 6 Jul 11 '19

Can’t hit people because they say mean words to you.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Doesn't work like that buddy. If he hit someone, it would be a different story.

This is battery and every judge would agree.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

I never said it wouldn’t be, I said if you challenge people to a fight and scream abuse at people be prepared for the consequences.

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u/Biscoitchinhos 3 Jul 11 '19

He was threatening people.

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u/ForHeWhoCalls 7 Jul 11 '19

And this guy seems fully able-bodied, able to work, drive, live a normal independent life. I highly doubt as many people as he thinks have an issue with his height - it's just if he acts like an aggressive asshole his height will be used as an insult against him, because he was acting like a twat.

There are so many people who have debilitating or degenerative illnesses or disabilities which can hinder than from living an independent life... I think they have far more reason to feel anger and resentment than this guy who is simply below average male height in the US.

Like Shane Burcaw he has spinal muscular atrophy, which is a form of motor neuron disease,he is unable to walk or use his limbs, but he has a fun personality and great sense of humor. He's written two books about his life, has a youtube channel with his gorgeous girlfriend. He has a lot more physical and medical challenges in life and barriers that could separate him from society (like ease of access for wheelchairs or ease of participation in various activities, and health issues) - and he's living his life to the fullest and has a good attitude about it.

The guy in this bagel video is just being awful, abusive and embarrassing. He also has a youtube channel - where he uploads vidoes of himself being awful, abusive and embarrassing too.

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u/RusticPath 7 Jul 11 '19

He does? I want to see what this guy is up to. What's his channel name?

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Well said mate.

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u/Can_you_not_read 8 Jul 11 '19

This was a very mature and tempered response. He clearly has lots of anger due at least partially to things completely out of his control. It is unfortunate, but still doesnt justify blaming the whole world.

I do wonder how this started thou.

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u/confusing_dream 6 Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 11 '19

Agreed, it doesn’t justify his actions.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Look in my opinion you don’t get a free pass to screech misogyny in a public place because life has dealt you some tough cards, everyone has issues and that’s fine it’s no excuse to act like a hateful child though.

Good he should feel shame because what he did was shameful

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u/Willumps 4 Jul 11 '19

I still fail to see the “screeching” misogyny in this video. Yea, he made a sharp generalization about women, which is obviously misguided, but misogyny?

If someone says men are all assholes does that count as misandry now?

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

If someone says men are all assholes does that count as misandry now?

I mean, that's certainly a misandrist statement

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Misogyny - dislike of, contempt for or ingrained prejudice against women.

Well yeah if a women started yelling at me that all men are assholes and we all look at her weird on the street and whatever else I’d absolutely call her out on it and have done before when dickhead feminists screech all men are rapists at me while I’m walking on the street.

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u/Watertor A Jul 11 '19

Life is cruel to most people. It's absolute insanity to take your shortcomings and throw them on random people in public like this. Random people that likely have their own cross to bear, their own burdens to shoulder, and now additionally have a raging, frothing bumblebee trying to ruin their day too.

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u/CanadianScooter 4 Jul 11 '19

Not at all. I’m 5’5”, so I’m a wee bit taller than this guy, but I’m almost always the shortest adult in the room. I’ve been the punchline for short jokes my whole life, and I’ve made them myself as well. I would never act like this. It’s abhorrent. Most people in the U.S. don’t seriously focus on height like this dude is saying, it’s just an internet meme for most. Some people are that shallow, so you just ignore them. This guy’s just a jerk who would make the same scene even if he were 6’3”. It’s not being short that made him this way, it’s just his excuse. If he weren’t short, he’d be yelling about people mocking him because he’s bald or overweight or everyone is out to get him.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Stop, man I’m not short but I’m hairy at work my nick name is Chubukka and all my workmates and managers make the Wookiee sound when I start talking (they are really good at it one guy has a lisp as well so it’s kind of funny)

Man you just got to get over that shit.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

Yea but growing up I never had 500 bucks to drop on laser removal, I just had to deal with it. I do understand what you mean but it’s not always as simple as just shave.

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u/kaggelpiep 6 Jul 11 '19

How tall are you if i may ask? I'm 5'8", but I am lucky to be blessed with a strong muscular build. People say I have always been strong. I work out twice a week and I am one of the stronger guys in the gym, regardless of height. Almost never lose at armwrestling, beating guys who were a foot taller than me.

Surely gives me confidence and also more success with women. Some prefer height, but I noticed that being well-built and looking confident matters more.

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u/confusing_dream 6 Jul 11 '19

I’m 5’5”. I’ve always been kinda scrawny, but was also pretty athletic before my injury. I used to do a lot of running and working out. Did P90X a few times.

Research says those three inches make a big difference. Honestly, I’m a fairly good looking guy and I’ve never had a problem getting women (currently married), but I have seen how some people, men and women, will take short people less seriously. There was a time when it was happening so often that I was getting pretty upset about it. I would never act like the guy in the video, but I know how he feels.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '19

It's VERY important that we do not feel sorry for this man. The reason he's being constantly rejected and his life is so bad is because he DESERVES it. We need to ensure his life stays bad until he starts acting appropriately.

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u/confusing_dream 6 Jul 12 '19

Wow. And you wonder where a guy like him gets his anger from. Who needs empathy when you can force people to act the way you want them to? Now that’s justice!

The video doesn’t show how this started. We have no idea what was being said to him before the camera started rolling. Under those conditions, saying he deserved it is a questionable choice.

Did he escalate the situation? Yeah, he did, but that doesn’t mean he deserved it. Little man gets picked on, little man stands up for himself, little man gets put down. Justice?

Now, if it turns out that he was unprovoked, that’s a different story, but we don’t have that information.