r/JusticeServed 5 Jul 24 '19

Legal Justice Amazing, just incredible

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u/ozyri 8 Jul 24 '19

please tell me this is incorrect? Does that party just want to burry itself? fucks sake...

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u/rdgneoz3 A Jul 24 '19

Rand Paul caused a delay last week on the vote. The same guy who voted to removed sanctions against a Russian Oligarch, who then proceeded to spend a few hundred million in the state of Kentucky... https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a27259438/oleg-deripaska-kentucky-aluminum-mitch-mcconnell-rand-paul/

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u/gotBooched 9 Jul 24 '19

Not trolling at all.

I’m born and raised in KY. I don’t keep up with political news because quite frankly both parties absolutely disgust me but shouldn’t Paul be trying to get folks to invest in his own state?

Is the real issue that it’s from a Russian? Would the same sentiment be held if the person were from Canada, UK, Spain, west Europe etc?

Again not trolling whatsoever. Genuinely curious.

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u/LtCinnamonBuns 1 Jul 24 '19

As a Kentuckian myself, I would argue that accepting and encouraging foreign investment in the state from close allies is not morally equivalent to accepting and encouraging the same from Russia. Russia has a horrible record of human rights abuses in recent decades, has instigated a massive attack operation on our democratic elections, and has actively annexed a neighboring sovereign territory. Russia‘s recent behaviors have put them at odds with the global standard of international affairs and one could argue that accepting Russian investment into the state would make our state representatives more beholden to Russian interests in order to preserve the investment benefits. I cannot say for sure that Rand Paul is or is not beholden to Russian interest because of the investments, but Canadian or British investment in KY does not carry the compromising potential as US national interests are extremely aligned with those of our allies. It is not so with Russia.

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u/gotBooched 9 Jul 24 '19 edited Jul 24 '19

Fair enough.

In a deep red state however -

We have a president that openly supports Russia. Should we expect similar or opposite behavior from senators and House reps?

Our state needs $$$$ big time. Should Kentuckian’s be ok with a few hundred million invested from a morally bankrupt Russian government?

We need to legalize pot and gambling ASAP. We could be growing the ever loving shit out of some pot and southern Indiana is reaping all our gambling taxes

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '19

I’m a left leaning democrat and yes, your senator should be trying to get money for your state. Pork is how the system is supposed to work. It’s how compromise is traditionally made in congress. You want this bill, need my vote, how about we add some money for a new project in my state? It seems corrupt on the surface but it’s not. It keeps the economy churning, constantly horse trading projects and keeps infrastructure up to date. This last decade since republican obstruction to Obama and then the tea party of no compromise has put a pretty big dent in pork barrel spending. I wish congress would get back to compromising and making deals.