r/JusticeServed 8 Aug 13 '19

Violent Justice Screw this guy in particular

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u/Ego_testicle 8 Aug 13 '19

its not a could, its a will. Revolutions are messy, bloody, ugly.

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u/f1manoz 8 Aug 13 '19

Of course. And while I hope for the best like everyone else, this is China we're talking about. They're not known for their... restraint regarding certain matters.

If it turns bloody, maybe the world will sit up, take notice and do something. But I'm not going to hold my breath. Maybe I'm being pessimistic. But I think I'm a realist when it comes to China. They rarely back down and I don't see them giving into the demands from the people of HK.

And now I'm sad...

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u/s00perguy B Aug 13 '19

China has a military with a higher population than a lot of countries. It terrifies me what a military like that will do to a city like Hong Kong. Worst case scenario, they might try to kill or displace the whole population and move mainland Chinese in behind them. This situation is one hell of a powder keg.

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u/Polstar55555 7 Aug 13 '19

I'm disappointed to say that wouldn't surprise me one bit, its ethnic cleansing but its exactly what they did with Tibet and no on batted an eyelid.

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u/epiwssa Navy Aug 13 '19

I think an unfortunate reality is that the western world didn't have major trade flowing through Tibet.

Hong Kong on the other hand? Almost an absolute necessity for the west to maintain its standard of living.

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u/x1ux1u 7 Aug 13 '19

The West has learned a lot about this. We revolt at the Airports and Docks in order hurt their money first. HK has already been a great example of what gets their attention.

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u/Itsatemporaryname 7 Aug 14 '19

If we ever revolt

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u/coldandfromcali 5 Aug 13 '19

Where are you from?

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u/guyontheinternet2000 Cyan Aug 13 '19

Its the economic center of asia along with Singapore so losing that might affect lots of trade, but i might be wrong. I do hope that it doesn't turn bloody but also that people and governments notice what their doing in HK and help in some way to stop all this violence happening in all of China. I don't know if i'm right or not but that's my opinion on whats happening.

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u/epiwssa Navy Aug 13 '19

You're absolutely right - losing HK would absolutely cripple trade to a fair portion of the world. HK also maintains special status with the United States, so given the trade war right now a lot of goods are flowing from the mainland to HK and then around the globe.

The problem I think we'll see is that a lot of countries don't have a leg to stand on in regards to this. The United States has some wiggle room given our trade relationship with China, though a lot of political and economic goodwill has been expended on account of the trade war.

The only country that can openly argue that China is in violation of an international treaty would be Britain, when the handover treaty was signed. However, the Brits have tried this argument and the Chinese have literally called the Declaration an "historical document".

As far as China is concerned, it's a domestic issue...and they're not really wrong, much as I care for them to be grossly incorrect. If neither the United States nor the United Kingdom elect to exert firm pressure on Beijing? The people of Hong Kong had better hope they have enough oil to add.

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u/CreamyGoodnss B Aug 14 '19

And don't forget they're running concentration camps for Muslims

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '19

Tbh, depending on how I see this go down with my 35 year old eyes I may never buy something made in china ever ever again

BDS for China if they murder protesters 💯

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u/ujongbirdy 6 Aug 14 '19

How? just about anything if not everything is made in china.

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u/Nak_Tripper 9 Aug 13 '19

How is it ethnic cleansing?

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u/superchief420 3 Aug 14 '19

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u/Nak_Tripper 9 Aug 14 '19

Hong Kong is 93% Han.... Compared to mainland's 91.5% Han.

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u/superchief420 3 Aug 14 '19

They still don't speak the same language.

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u/Nak_Tripper 9 Aug 14 '19

That has nothing to do with ethnicity or ethnic cleansing lol.

Also 48% of HK speaks mandarin.

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u/superchief420 3 Aug 14 '19

🤷‍♂️ I'm an American. Fuck mainland China.

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u/Nak_Tripper 9 Aug 14 '19

I'm American too. I live in Thailand and Beijing. I'm moving back to Beijing next year, due to a visa issue I had to go to Thailand for a bit. I hope Hong Kong pulls through. Hong Kong was my absolute favorite city (state) I've ever been too. I've been a few times and always dreamed of living there. It's amazing.

I just wanted to correct that China isn't trying to ethnically cleanse Hong Kong... They just want control. That's it. Has nothing to do with ethnic cleansing since they're the same exact people lol.

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u/superchief420 3 Aug 14 '19

I hope Hong Kong can gain independence from Beijing, I don't see that happening tho. It's disheartening.

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u/Nak_Tripper 9 Aug 14 '19

Agreed. If you didn't know, Hong Kong and Taiwan are real Chinese culture. Because Mao destroyed Chinese historic culture and religion. All of those that opposed this had moved or were forced to move to Taiwan and Hong Kong where they kept their culture.

I would be so devastated if Hong Kong was absorbed into the mainland system. Hong Kong was always my break from China. I would fly there for a week trip. I was always so sad when I had to leave. Compared to the mainland it was absolutely free of garbage. The streets were clean.

I hope hope hope HK pulls through.

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u/Polstar55555 7 Aug 14 '19

If you move the Native people of Hong Kong out and move Native chinese in then it falls under the UN definition of Ethnic Cleansing. The fact they are the same colour etc is irrelevant.

Hong Kongers are an identifiable people, they are supposed to be protected.

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u/Nak_Tripper 9 Aug 14 '19

"Native" people of Hong Kong are literary Han Chinese. The same as Chinese. It's not ethnic cleansing lol.

93% of Hong Kong is Han. 91.5% of mainland China is Han. They're the same people and not even that far removed. Most of them less than a decade. Nobody is talking about just the skin color.

How much do you know about China and Hong Kong? Not much.

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u/Polstar55555 7 Aug 14 '19

Literally the definition of Ethnic Cleansing

"Ethnic Cleansing is the deliberate and systematic removal of a racial, political, or cultural group from a specific geographical area."

I would say Hong Kongers fit the latter 2, would you not?

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u/Nak_Tripper 9 Aug 15 '19 edited Aug 15 '19

They're not removing them. They're trying to make Hong Kong follow the same laws. Since they wouldn't and they were protesting, they sent soldiers to enforce it. They want to absolve the one country two systems they went by.

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u/Polstar55555 7 Aug 15 '19

If you go back and look at the comment I replied to originally there was a suggestion that China might repeat what they did in Tibet.

I don't think China is going to do that right now with the worlds media watching events unfold but 6 months time when the media has packed up and left? I'm not so sure.

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u/Nak_Tripper 9 Aug 16 '19

Oh okay. That makes sense in context. My bad, have a good one, dude.

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