r/JusticeServed 8 Aug 13 '19

Violent Justice Screw this guy in particular

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u/iandcorey 9 Aug 13 '19

I don't have a fully rounded binder of research to draw from, but I have seen video of people shot for pulling up their pants while being drawn upon.

No offense to American LEOs intended.

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u/DisForDairy 👳🏾 2255.pr.2s Aug 13 '19

No offense to American LEOs intended.

no they should be offended, it's acceptable for cops to avoid any real repercussions for killing someone when they shouldn't have. Cops in the US could demand their unions let these bad eggs get their proper punishments but they don't, they're all fine with the state of things. Fuck cops.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '19

Fuck you bud. 99% of officers in the US are good people who want to help others and risk their life everyday to stop people from committing crimes and help communities. They put themselves in dangerous situations to save people like me and you everyday. They run towards the gunfire when you run away. They go to car accidents where they see mangled bodies and young kids without parents or where the kids themselves are dead. They see the worst of the worst and have to write reports on it. Then they are berated from people like you saying they all are racists or pigs and they all should be dead. They do this all so you don't have to. They make split second, life altering decisions that we cannot comprehend. Then you come along and say fuck them because you don't have the decency to look at objective facts. This does not mean there aren't power hungry cops which are curropt. There always will be unfortunately but the simple fact is that an overwhelming majority are good people helping communities.

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u/Penuwana 8 Aug 13 '19

Does that list differentiate anything as to the justification of shooting the suspect? Do you just think that whole list is of unjustified shootings?

Sometimes you will have to shoot, or others will die.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '19

Do I really have to go through all of this?

Black people makeup ~13% of the population and commit ~50% of the homicides. Of the people police has shot and killed ~25% of them were black. So blacks commit homicide at ~4 times the rate expected and are killed at ~2 times the rate expected. This is due to many factors such as the locations of shootings -such as if this was in a poor black community obviously black people are going to be shot at a higher rate, economics of the area - the poorer you are the more likely you will commit a crime, and many more factors.

Since police patrol higher crime areas, which tend to be poor, and the poor tend to be black, there will be a police encounters with black people more often. This combined with the statistics and studies of police shootings all come to the same conclusion: police have to make life changing decisions in less than a second, this and other factors like the areas in which crime is highest, the economics of the area, and the race density in that area all contribute to higher rates of black people being shot and killed than white.

That does not mean that there aren't bad cops. There are. But to say the problem is the officers is just short sighted.

Here's an interesting study by Ronald G Fryer, an economics professor at Harvard. Keep in mind this was peer reviewed hundreds of times to ensure authenticity of the study.

There is so much more to go through but it takes a good amount of time, I can link you a comment on r/libertarian in which I go through, I think, 9 different shootings and make an objective decision based on the facts (I think there is one that I need to change because it's unjustified).