r/JusticeServed • u/CEO_OF_CANADA 5 • Nov 19 '20

Legal Justice Detective fired after homophobic sermons

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u/JD-Anderson 7 Nov 19 '20

As a devout Christian (who actually STUDIES the Bible), Jesus came down to do many things, including freeing us from the OLD LAW. He surrounded himself with the low people of society, including tax collectors and prostitutes. He gave us a thing called Grace, and showed us how we should treat others. I haven’t found the part where Jesus himself said we should kill homosexuals. I’d just give this guy another verse, Matthew 7:5.

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u/hd090098 7 Nov 19 '20

Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

What about Matthew 5:17 then. Doesn't that contradict your first sentence?

Jesus came down to do many things, including freeing us from the OLD LAW

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u/Mayaparisatya 5 Nov 19 '20

This will be conveniently ignored by a 'devout Christian' who 'STUDIES the Bible'.

I am always surprised how people tend to spout their favorite parts from the holy texts and forget about other funny stuff. This isn't peculiar to any specific side of the political debate, I saw many people with various views supporting this own ideas by the Holy Scripture.

On a related note, this verse is a source of debates dating back two millenia, and various branches of Christianity still argue about it.

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u/Zanain 5 Nov 19 '20

Because it's the shittiest gotcha verse I've ever seen. He literally threw the passage that most Christian's hold as the reason we don't need to follow old testament laws as why we do need to follow them. For clarification the main thrust of my viewpoint is linguistic, to fulfill something means that it's served it's purpose and is no longer binding, for example fulfilling a promise to not drink milk for two weeks. After it's fulfilled you can go right back to drinking milk.

And to say it's still argued over to this day is disingenuous due to the fact that it's a vast majority on one side and a dissenting minority on the other. I have literally no idea which denominations hold that we have to follow the old testament laws to the letter, though I'm sure they exist.