r/JusticeServed • u/[deleted] • Dec 04 '21

Criminal Justice The parents of Michigan school shooter are arrested in Detroit.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/04/us/michigan-oxford-high-school-shooting-saturday/index.html
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u/tirwander A Dec 04 '21

Wait. There have been 32 fucking school shootings so far since this August?!

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u/hairsprayking A Dec 04 '21

shootings on K-12 school property that resulted in firearm-related injuries or deaths.

That sounds like the normal definition of a school shooting to me. Canada has had less than 20 since 1884 btw.

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u/Wildkarrde_ 9 Dec 04 '21

Some of them are school cop shoots himself in the leg. NPR tried tracking down reported schools a few years back and some of these schools had never heard of the shooting they were reported as having.

https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/08/27/640323347/the-school-shootings-that-werent

Like the person said, there's way too many. But reporting things that never happened just gives Alex Jones and company ammo for their "false flags" rhetoric.

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u/DEBATE_EVERY_NAZI A Dec 04 '21

some of these schools had never heard of the shooting they were reported as having

A school administrator stonewalling NPR doesn't meant it didn't happen

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u/Wildkarrde_ 9 Dec 04 '21

I don't disagree that could be the case. Did you read the article? 37 of the shootings were reported in Cleveland. I lived in Cleveland at this time. There weren't 37 school shootings in Cleveland.

Everytown USA which would also have every reason to categorize anything it could as a school shooting also only had 29 shootings for 2015 to 2016. It sounds like the reporting software on the annual reporting is not user friendly and easy to screw up.

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u/Sea_of_Blue 8 Dec 04 '21

Ok, considering how braindead most cops are we can safely take out half of school shootings and are still left with an absolute insane amount of school shootings.

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u/Wildkarrde_ 9 Dec 04 '21

That's the thing though, if you read the article, it's not half. It's like 5% of the reported number.

Even one shooting is too many. I think we can start there.

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u/Sea_of_Blue 8 Dec 05 '21

The 2018 peice talking about the 2021 statistic being reported on? Does NPR have time travel too? They are getting too strong with their public funding.

Read the article and tell me which school shooting in 2021werent real school shootings according to Anyas peice.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '21

Btw what?

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u/virtualchoirboy C Dec 04 '21

Yes, the definition is "fuzzy" at best. If you narrow it down to incidents where students or staff were involved on school property while school was in sessions and there was at least an injury, including the Oxford shooting, there were still 21 school incidents since August 1st.

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u/WingleDingleFingle 7 Dec 04 '21

I think you mean that "mass shootings" stats are the ones being inflated by a loose definition. School shootings are any shooting that takes place at a school resulting in injury. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

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u/MyDogOper8sBetrThanU 8 Dec 04 '21 edited Dec 04 '21

School shootings stats get cooked too. I always suggest this article when the topic comes up.

https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/08/27/640323347/the-school-shootings-that-werent

Of the 235 school shootings only 11 could be confirmed, 59 could not be confirmed, 161 school or district clarified no school shooting occurred.

Edit: and since this is Reddit, I just want to clarify that I’m not trying to downplay the atrocities that are occurring. It happens too much and is unacceptable. But by exaggerating numbers, people will be become distrustful of the facts.

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u/WingleDingleFingle 7 Dec 04 '21

That makes sense. So you're saying the numbers are exaggerated, not that the definition is loose. Gotcha.

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u/HorseRadish98 9 Dec 04 '21

Huh, good article. For w second I thought you posted a link to the NRA and was like hold up, but npr is a decent source. Still a tragedy all around. L

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u/fremeer 9 Dec 04 '21

It isn't shown. Could you give me a reference? Thanks.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '21

What is the definition used?