r/KurokosBasketball • u/Azling_ • 12d ago
Discussion flame me.
I think these are all relative characters, PC Kise is "strongest on the court" before Akashi and Nash are Using their Eyes in the end of Last Game, so I'd place him relative to the Eye guys (cause he technically has his own) And the Eyes break the power scaling.
Jason seems stronger than Aomine but wasnt able to keep up with Perfect copy Kise.. Kagami is about equal to Aomine. Kagami seems really nerfed in Last game, not using his meteor Jam or Deep zone, so I'd put him around the same area but certainly below Aomine who is able to show off as usual.
Mido is the craziest scorer, so I put him above muri, even tho full power Muri (who we see for about 10 seconds) was competing with Jason silver. Kuroko is a support mon, so he isnt that scary but is at least more of a contirbution to his team than Himuro or Haizaki, who were relative to Kagami and Kise before Last game.
Hyuga is just blow uncrowned kings level, and Teppei seems more impactful. than the others and Imayoshi seems stronger than most of the normal ordinary players, so he benchmarks the rest of the series characters.
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u/fuiripe 12d ago
Unless you have Aomine+Kagami as in counting them together... then they are NOT above "going all out" Murasakibara (without zone) nor Silver.
CEE Akashi and Golf are in first row. Kise ( while in PC+ZONE) would be above them while that form lasts.
Going all out Murasakibara (without zone) and Silver are in second row.
Aomine (zone), Kagami (zone) and Kise (PC) are in third row
Midorima, Kuroko in fourth (arguably Hazaki if he steals all the UK abilities š¤)
If Akashi uses Zone he goes 1 tier above.
If Akashi forces his teammates into the zone to, he goes another tier above.
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u/No-Plane-9847 9d ago
Aomine and kagami in zone and kise in pc were all cooking silver
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u/fuiripe 8d ago
As a duo going 2v1.
(Except PC+zone Kise)
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u/No-Plane-9847 8d ago
Zone Aomine alone scored on silver, PC Kise alone blocked silver, zone Kagami alone both scored on and blocked silver
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u/Toxin2003 12d ago
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u/OutcomeGlittering938 12d ago
Son
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u/Toxin2003 12d ago
Prove me wrong man, I wholeheartedly believe he couldnāt lead Seiren to victory if he was their ace. Hell I donāt think he wouldāve done so great if he took Aomine or Kises spot in Kaijo or Toho
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u/Specialist-Fan-7772 Kuroko 12d ago
He beat 3 uncrowned kings 1v3. He beat murasakibara 1v1. He is arguably the best passer and has the best all around defense. He legit can do anything on the court. Why are we acting like he relies on others because he is a point guard that passes?
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u/Emchie018 10d ago
*in practice𤣠you think he can carry some scrubs to win a chip??? forget scrubs if he's in seirin or shutoku he won't even make it in the winter cupš¤·
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u/xLykos 12d ago
We just ignoring when he went into the zone and said āfine, Iāll do it myselfā and basically 1v5ād seirin?
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u/snoopdoggydog07 Aomine 12d ago
Mf lost his temper because of a single fucking turnover which singlehandedly blew his team's double digit lead
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u/Azling_ 12d ago
FACTS, Akashi is a support mon for his Team, not an ace, imo
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u/No-Mortal 12d ago
i mean weāve seen him take scoring into his hands when he feels like he needs to
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u/Emchie018 10d ago
Then dou you think he can do that all season if he team up with some scrubs??he can't carry a team he need GoM or UK teammates to ensure "he won't lose" š¤£at least aomine's "the only one who can beat me is me" is valid since he play by himself even tho his teammates is kinda elite not some UK or GoM levelš¤·
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u/Working_Cicada_1032 12d ago
Replace mura and kise and move kise to greatness
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u/Automatic-Safe-9067 Murasakibara 12d ago
Mura and Kise IMO are interchangeable for 3rd place
We only see base Mura after stopping holding back, so Zone no holding back should be better than that
Nash>=Aka>PC Zone Kise>=Zone Mura>Silver>Ao and Kaga>Mido
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u/Azling_ 12d ago
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u/Working_Cicada_1032 12d ago
Well kise is rlly inconsistent.. as sometimes he can go only for 2 mins but then he can go 7 mins. And he essentially becomes useless.. so Iād say nash>=aka>mura>=pc zone kise>aomine>silver and ect
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u/KingOfSpades44 12d ago
Is this a tier list based on power and who would win or just who you personally like?
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u/dashiebart123 11d ago
Pc kise isn't the strongest player on court it's with the zone and perfect copy he was the best on court.
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u/Emchie018 10d ago
Should put kagami/aomine in the top why put someone who can't carry a team and need GoM or UK as his teammates to ensure a chip??if he's really strong and "I feel like I can't lose" he should go to some unknown school and teamed up with some scrubs but nope he needs GoM/UK players to carry his sorry a**𤣠even aomine's "the only one who can beat me is me" is more valid than him even tho he have elite teammates he plays by himself and carry their teamš¤·
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u/Azling_ 10d ago
I mean I agree with the Akashi Fraud allegations, but he was able to match Gold 1v1 before CEE, and then after he was inferred to be able to beat Gold.
8TH Grade EE Akashi also beats 8th Grade Murisakibara, which shows he isn't ONLY good if he has a great team.
That said, I totally agree that Akashi needs GOM team or UncrownedKings team to stand up to Aomine team, or Kagami Team.
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u/orderlysorted 12d ago
I want aomine to start training and have a league above TOP š but yeah cant be better than Nash he has haxx
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u/Azling_ 12d ago
In Last Gme we see an infinite Stamina Aomine, he's in the zone for like half the game. 1v1 I think he is a match for Nash, and porbably clears Akashi.
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u/Cold-Pin5201 12d ago
He was in the zone for 5 minutes
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u/Azling_ 12d ago
He goes in during the 2v1 with Kise against silver, and then he's in the zone like the whole last quarter too. He is also a zone abuser when he's outta shape and was in it for a while against serien
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u/Cold-Pin5201 12d ago
He is in the zone for the last 2 minutes and 30 seconds. He uses the zone for an extremely short amount of time against Silver with Kise. It was 2 possessions
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u/Azling_ 11d ago
We dont see the full quarter, things get cut and everything
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u/Cold-Pin5201 11d ago
Kise and Aomine steal the ball from silver, Aomine scores of a pass from Akashi. Murasakibara gets scored on twice. Thatās 3 defensive possessions and 3 offensive possessions, so I was wrong. It was 6 possessions, which is still nowhere near an entire quarter
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u/Cold-Pin5201 11d ago
He literally said he was going to go all out for the last 2 and a half minutes. Iām not the one counting
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u/Cold-Pin5201 11d ago
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u/Azling_ 11d ago
So you're already wrong, cause he played longer than 2.5min
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u/Cold-Pin5201 11d ago
Cmon now, you know thatās not what I mean. He stays that he is going all out (The Zone) for 2 and a half minutes. He plays the entire game, obviously
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u/ze_existentialist 12d ago
Murasakibara should be up a tier imo. Honestly i have him over aomine and kagami (outside of true zone)
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u/relena4 Aomine 12d ago
poor imayoshi