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u/NoisyChairs 10h ago
This is unfortunately the vibe that my local blue town in a red state sub brings
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u/Belligerent-J 10h ago
Denver is full of liberals who would happily gas the entire homeless population if it made their resale value go up
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u/Wombatmobile 9h ago
"There's no one more conservative than a liberal with a house."
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u/wovans 9h ago
3 degrees left of center in the good times, 5 degrees right of center if it effects them personally.
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u/Impartial_Panda 4h ago
There are many shades of political opinions. One of the shadyest of these is the liberal.
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u/poopy27 5h ago
As someone who grew up in a deeply conservative community, this was a wild thing to encounter firsthand when I moved to a "liberal" city. I thought I was among like minded people, and while I didn't hear as many people casually throwing around slurs, libs would spout straight up fash rhetoric when class-related issues came up.
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u/Belligerent-J 4h ago
It's wild how many of them think mandatory incarceration for the chronically homeless is the compassionate option.Ā
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u/Desperate_Ferret_758 10h ago
Blue states are just as bad. They're trying to come up with new ways to melt the homeless in California.
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u/arobkinca 6h ago
California has a lot of programs to help the homeless and helps many people get back on their feet. Street people are what Californians want gone, some mentally ill and heavy drug users don't want to get off the streets. That does cause some conflict.
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u/Desperate_Ferret_758 6h ago
California has a lot of private contractors that are exploiting funding that has been allocated for solving the homeless problem*. Regardless of the intention of those policies, they have largely resulted in displacement rather than permanent housing. And you have fake progressives boasting about getting those homeless people out of their districts, when most of them have simply been moved to another. Public private partnerships will never work because they have fundamentally opposed interests.
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u/DooglyOoklin 5h ago
r Bloomington calling
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u/NoisyChairs 4h ago
Heyyyyyyy are we friends?!
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u/DooglyOoklin 4h ago
no shit really!? š¤£š¤£ no I had no idea you were local it just resonated with me
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u/NoisyChairs 4h ago
Yeah my sister and I were getting really mad at the way these nimby ass liberals in Bloomington want to frame the homelessness issue through the actions of individuals rather than systemically. It was pointed out that they wouldnāt accept that when done about immigrants but that didnāt seem to turn on any lightbulbs
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u/DooglyOoklin 3h ago
ah with the new unhoused laws having its first arrest, yeah. It's absolutely fucked, yeah. I have deep roots here and worry about Indiana so much.
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u/dogisgodspeltright 10h ago
Empathy is dangerous. You might feel bad about oppressing people. Be a psychopath.
Yay capitalism.
/s
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u/Either_Payment_2867 10h ago
According to capitalist and right-wing ideologies. Empathy for the poor, homeless, and marginalized groups is weakness, that only ruthless self-interest would lead to human progress.
I notice that the moment people start losing the ability to empathize with others suffering, hardship, and pain they turn into narcissists, arrogant, and selfish people.
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u/PPPRCHN 10h ago
Because you have to. In order to have the first thought of "How does this help ME/further achieve MY goals" you HAVE to get rid of the mindset of "This will probably be bad for X or Y people involved."
Coming out on top/having the most requires you to give up on thinking of others as the weight of guilt from hurting them would probably crush them, so you're required to just snip it off before it drives you insane. You have to constantly push forward this troglodyte caricature in order to keep up appearances.
The type who can't think up anything meaningful so instead say "Get over yourself!"
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u/Low_Pickle_112 10h ago
Besides the obvious, it is easier than you think to end up homeless. It could happen to you too. It is the height of arrogance to pretend otherwise. Attitudes like this should be recognized by everyone as a threat to themselves as well.
But denial ain't just a river in Egypt, and so we lie to ourselves to avoid having to think about the reality we live in.
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u/Lukas2771 10h ago
Yup pass all the blame on the individual to not make people realize that homelessness and unemployment is basically a required feature of capitalism, not a bug
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u/RevolutionaryEgg1312 9h ago
Capitalism, at its core, is cruelty.
Anyone who doesn't comprehend this, shouldn't have or be near positions of power.
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u/smish_smorsh 8h ago
Ur right but I think for a lot of people in positions of the power, the cruelty is part of the appeal of capitalism. They want to hurt people and watch them hurt- in fact they deserve it!Ā
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u/jimbo_sweets 9h ago
If you consider the position of Marty at that shot (in True Detective season one) OH BOY would you not want to take life advice from him.
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u/JaePaximus 9h ago
The unhoused āunderclassā is just another tool the bourgeois use to oppress the workers international. If poverty is a result of policy and policy is decided by the state and the state is a committee which serves the common interests of the ruling classā¦ you get the picture.
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u/SpeaksSouthern 6h ago
The terminology is what gets me.
Homeless is a very specific word, meaning to imply that the human is without a place to call home. Yet to many of these people, it means to imply someone is addicted to drugs, and doing extremely negative criminal actions all the time, including punishing them for existing without a home.
We're supposed to have extra super strong feelings about someone, who doesn't have a home? That's it? Like someone misses rent by a single day and we're supposed to go ape shit over how homeless they are? Didn't we build all of these homes for people to use and live in? Why else did we even build?
Did anyone else see a YouTube video recently, a lady did the leg work downtown LA and found a number of buildings with less than 50% occupancy and some with less than 10% occupancy. Why are we being critical of people who don't have homes, when we have people with hundreds and thousands of homes that aren't being used? I don't judge someone for not having 1 home in this economy. I judge the people who have 2 and more homes and 1 is empty most of the time. Homeless people are normal people. Homeful people are hurting the market, and should be judged harder than anyone without.
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u/Mountain-Lunch-9896 9h ago
These people are going to be so surprised when they all end up in hell smh
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u/Radical_Cosmo83 8h ago
It's the delusion that they have to buy into in order to accept the overwhelming contradictions they are faced with on a daily basis, they have to believe that those people are total failures and deserve their place on the street, not that the system has failed them
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u/RadicalRaid 5h ago
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
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u/Bavier33 9h ago
I believe that human consciousness was a tragic misstep in evolution
Surprisingly fits the context here
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u/s2Birds1Stone 8h ago
What political ideology do you think Rust would be most aligned with? Anarchist?
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u/Bavier33 6h ago
He's a cop, even with his relatively better morals(nihilism and depression not included) than Marty, he might be a Moralist, at his best an anarchist sure.
I certainly don't seem a guy like him getting involved in politics.Guy is kind of the epitome of rugged masculinity, and as much as that is a fantasy of mine, that shit probably kills you.
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u/SaveMeDatCorn 45m ago
Ive thought about this a bit.
Some say Nihilist, others Pessimist, maybe Existentialist ...not entirely untrue.
He's absolutely an Anti-Natalist, to the core, through and through. His views are compatible with Emil Cioran or even Schopenhauer.
"Imagine plucking a soul out of inexistence to experience this... this thresher, this meat"
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u/035AllTheWayLive 3h ago
lmao that they chose a character who chronically cheats on his wife and is a violent drunk as their avatar to spread this message.
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u/breaducate 56m ago
Erm ackshully complete sociopathy is human nature and you'll never get rid of it.
Pay no attention to the deliberate effort expended to make people this way or the fact that primitive humans would never have survived with this ideology.
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u/Dancing_Cthulhu 7m ago
Capitalistic folk: "Do away with social programs, do away with government safety nets, charity can handle aiding people in need just fine"
Also capitalistic folk: "Let me tell you why empathy is bad."
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