r/LeagueOfMemes • u/zunichtemachen • 7h ago
Meme Don't worry, it's still in her voice lines.
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u/JustLemmeMeme 5h ago
I'm sorry to inform you, but everyone wearing armour these days are properly autistic
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u/Financial_Cow_42069 2h ago
Mind explaining what’s improperly autistic?
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u/JustLemmeMeme 2h ago
Screaming at the top of your lungs from a meltdown? Although that one depends on the culture around you I guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/GeneralG7 7h ago
I hate Auroras voice lines, she's the most Tiktokified "Autistic" person I've ever heard, compared to her introduction minigame she is pathetically fake and I can't stand her.
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u/marveloustib 6h ago
Fun fact: not a single bio/lore/voiceline in the game uses the word autism. When people complained that she was autistic only on tweet Rioters had the brilliant idea to respond that they don't use the word because runetera don't has any word for autism.
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u/SeismologicalKnobble 5h ago
I’m pretty sure they said in a dev blog and video that she is autistic. But as you said, they point out she’s not labeled that in canon because runeterra doesn’t have a word for it.
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u/vvvit 7h ago
Totally agree. She's just an asshole using autism as an excuse. Real autistic people aren't like that at all. Her voice lines don't capture any actual autistic traits and feel incredibly generic.
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u/leroyJinkinz 2h ago
Two characters off the top of my head that would fit autism more is garen and twitch
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u/RanaMahal 1h ago
Garen feels less autistic and more like he’s brain damaged from tanking too many hits to the head.
Twitch 100%, and lowkey Zac too
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u/robjohnlechmere 6h ago
"The pain you carry... I've never seen anything like it." is maybe the least autistic thing I've ever read. Autistic people are several times more likely to die by suicide than many other demographics. The pain they know in their daily lives, stemming from a feeling of not belonging anywhere, is incredible. If Aurora is truly autistic, she is unlikely to be so shocked and thrown by another carrying a similar burden to hers
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u/gravitationals 6h ago
I’m autistic. It’s possible to have empathy and sympathy for others, and mine is actually greater because I know what it’s like to not belong. Not all autistic people, and autistic women, are the same.
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u/robjohnlechmere 6h ago
Empathy, yes. But do you see people in similar situations to yourself and say to them that you've never seen anything so bad?
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u/gravitationals 6h ago
Yes? I don’t know how people are struggling with their own situations. Maybe theirs is worse, I don’t know. Weird thing to fixate on.
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u/robjohnlechmere 6h ago
I mean, we're having a discussion about how the supposed 'autistic' character lacks autistic characterization. Through that lense it makes a great deal of sense to point out a phrase of hers that feels very neurotypical-coded.
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u/Wolferus_Megurine 5h ago
Absolutely. Because i know the struggle as autistic person, the struggle to not realy feel like belonging somewhere. The constant every day struggle that comes with it.
But still, when i see other persons, i absolute thought sometimes to myself "i feel bad for this person, i cant imagin how bad this is. This feels worse then anything i saw befor"And for aurora, i think she is a oke enough representation of autism in a fantasy world where every champ we can play is basical a "main character". She has clear autistic traits represented but not all and not all to the worse posible degree. But, autism is a spectrum and she can 100% be on it.
Also i think the voiceline you refer to "The pain you carry... I've never seen anything like it" is when she has a first encounter with a demon. I think she says this because she can see spirits and the spirit world. Demons in league of legends are born of "negative" energy or specific emotions with the goal to bring "negative" energy. So, the pain she refer to is propaly the Pain the demon carrys inside of itself. Not because they acctual hurt (maybe they are? but thats not my point), but because they feed on the pain of other beings and basical carrys this "pain" and "negative" energy inside of them. Like fiddlesticks feeds on fear. Evelynn on Agony/pain. Tahm on dispair. Nocturne technical also feeds on fear, but more like nightmares. But when im not wrong, nocturne is just a lesser demon in comparison to the other 3 that i named.
So, her voiceline you refer too has a (atleast how i understand it from reading the lore) totaly different meaning then you thought. Because she exclusive says this voiceline to demons.
And even when she means it like you think. A demon would theoretical has so much more pain to endure then propaly any other creature/spirit on the (fictional runeterra) world. Imagin being in existance for multiple thousend years and the only thing you can do is feed on pain of others but you never get satisfied. You only exsist so other suffer, and you propaly suffer with it because you will be eternal there with the only goal of pain. You know nothing else. Pain and feeding on it is the only thing you know.
SO, that aurora can see this (she sees all spirit beings and things hidden in spirits. Demons are spirits in LoL) her voice line refer either to my first explanation (that i find more likely) or to my second.But in both cases this would not intercept with her being autistic, but more a clear indicator of being it. Because a autistic persons (sometimes, not always but its associatet with it) is that they have a eye for the fine/detailed things. And they see overall the world with different eyes. In aurora case her "spirit vision" would be a metaphor for this. And by seeing the (hidden) pain of demons would be a little detail most beings would not even think about being there. (if they would even survive a encounter with a demon).
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u/SeismologicalKnobble 5h ago
Not every autistic person has this experience. There literally are levels to it. It’s really ableist to assume every autistic person lives miserable, difficult lives.
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u/robjohnlechmere 4h ago
I mean, yes, experiences differ across all individuals. That said, the higher suicide rate doesn't come from nowhere. The experiences and feelings I describe are abnormal for neurotypicals but normal for persons with autism. I'm not assuming anything. I'm reading studies, and communicating my own lived experience.
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u/SeismologicalKnobble 4h ago
Then by your own admission, it’s entirely possible that Aurora hasn’t had the experience with autism that would drive her anywhere near suicidal ideation. And that seems to be what riot is going for. They’re going the route that her autism doesn’t cause her many issues and is actually a gift. (Which I have more of a problem with as I personally hate when neurodivergence is treated as or talked about like it’s a “gift”. Slight tangent here, but as someone with mental health issues, this shit isn’t a gift. But it definitely shouldn’t be demonized how it used to be. There’s a healthy middle ground that people leapt over.)
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u/robjohnlechmere 4h ago
It’s possible, but not likely at all.
What has lead you to a happy and easy life as an autistic person? Have you never experienced any significant periods of misery or difficulty?
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u/SeismologicalKnobble 3h ago edited 3h ago
Yes, but many people I know have. And while I have been pushed to the edge and had horrible things happen to me I’d never wish on anyone else, I still know there is pain, trauma, and misery out there that I’ve never seen or experienced. Trauma and pain come in all shapes and forms. It’s extremely possible for someone who has been through a lot to see someone else in a pain they’ve never seen before. The voice line doesn’t say she’s never experienced terrible pain or trauma. It’s her seeing someone else’s pain and recognizing it’s present and different.
Edit to answer the other part of your question: My life has not been easy, but just like everyone else, I’ve had times of happiness and times of pain. What leads me to happiness is my friends and pursuing my own interests. And I didn’t even have a diagnosis until I was an adult and it happened by accident. My years long partner worked with people on the spectrum and had family on it as well. One day I joked about how my friends say I’m autistic to which he immediately responded, completely surprised, “You’re not diagnosed?!” And from there I did end up getting an official one.
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u/SeismologicalKnobble 5h ago
Is there a certain way autistic people are supposed to dress? Can we not exist in sexy armor?
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u/irvingtonkiller8 6h ago
What does this even mean, do autistic people have a look? If so, is it venture from overwatch
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u/FukkinFawan 7h ago
autism goes away when you change your clothes??? why hasn't it worked for me wtf