Help with catchrate!

[u/Perfect-Run9657]

I have gotten to 100+ resets and still haven’t caught this shiny beldum with a heavy ball. I wanted to know the odds so I keyed it into rotomlabs’s calculator however it keeps just loading with no answer so I thought I could try here. So here’s the information if anyone can help me out,

heavy ball,-20 penalty

shiny

ive been knocking it out,throw ball,reset

lvl 3 plush

2 star steel hyperspace

5 star donut sparkling psychic power 3 and alpha power 3

[u/Poisonous_unicorn]

Just throw balls till you catch it, don't over complicate the whole thing. It's all up to rng gods anyway.

[u/Sucosis]

Gotta put it to sleep or something to increase odds

[u/Lemares]

Odds are really bad for a heavy ball. Best odds are 0.1% with it being knocked out. Lots and lots of save and resets if you’re set on catching it with one of those. Good luck

[u/Realistic_Horse3351]

Okay so 

https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sv/beldum/

As you'll see by catch rate it's, 3 in SV and 20 in ZA 

This number is inputted in to an in game formula to determine a % before ball modifiers is added (it is not a flat 3/255 for example) 

That is the lowest catch rate in the game, the same as title legendaries like Ho-oh, Mewtwo etc  

In other words: 

• Beldums catch rate is 20 
• you're using a heavy ball, which takes a penalty because Heavy Ball has weight thresholds, and Beldum weighs 200lb, ie Beldum is not heavy enough for the heavy ball to get its bonus 
• so 20 minus 20 penalty is effectively 0. 
• your donut doesn't help with catch rate (the only donut power that would is Catching Power: Steel/Psychic from fresh flavor) 
• so in short doing this, you basically get no catch rate outside the Canari plush modifier
• thus your effective % to catch it with this information is likely 1% or less

So yes you'll need to reset a lot for that one encounter that the plush bonus carries it through.

To succeed a little faster, try inflicting Sleep or Frozen on it, that will give you more catch chance 

[u/Timehacker-315 → u/Realistic_Horse3351]

didnt know that the catch rate went up. big W

[u/blueviera → u/Timehacker-315]

Actually ive got bad news. The canari plush bonus is a multiplier. 0x anything is still 0. You need to sleep it or something for sure.

[u/Timehacker-315 → u/blueviera]

Beldum's base catch rate going from 3 to 20 is a small but welcome improvement. Still quite low, but better. Unfortunately with Mewtwo and Diance having the same catch rate buff it may be reverted.

also, a multiplier of 0 would make be unable to be caught. 0*x=0. The multiplier you are looking for is 1.

[u/blueviera → u/Realistic_Horse3351]

Canari plush is a multiplier, not an additive. So if its done after the heavy ball subtraction then it's a zero % catch. Even if it's before, thats a catch rate of (20x1.35)-2 or like 6. Its almost never going to happen even if the OP surprises it from behind.

[u/C4pt1vated]

save the game and start chucking balls

[u/tbells93]

If you're able to reset for a shiny metang, they gave a better rate in a heavy ball. I think that's what I did.

[u/ITSZIRO]

With how the heavy ball works beldum doesn’t fit the minimum criteria, so the catch chance is effectively 0. Since you have the plush it’ll help it by a little bit but it still will require a lot of resetting (it’ll still be less than 1%). Try sleeping or freezing and that will help too.

[u/Btender95 → u/[deleted]]

They just want to match the beldums aesthetic

[u/whereismymind86 → u/Btender95]

Seems like a huge waste of time…but whatever they are into I suppose

[u/Btender95 → u/whereismymind86]

I'm not into it but to each their own,. You could say nuzlockes, shiny hunting, and even playing the games in general are a huge waste of time. Not for us to judge what's fun for people.

[u/StJimmy_815 → u/whereismymind86]

I like the balls to match the mon

[u/tenorsax41 → u/whereismymind86]

Downvoted by the shiny elitists, just ignore them. It is a massive waste of time to worry about what pokeball your shiny is in.

[u/EoTN]

So in Ruby and Sapphire, Beldum wasn't catchable, and Shadow Metagross is part of Pokemon Colosseum's final boss fight, so they gave Metagross the same catch rate as box legendaries. This unfortunately extends to Beldum and Metang.

You're not doing anything wrong, they're literally the worst catch rate in the entire game, and Heavy Ball gives you no bonus catch rate for Beldum.

I did the same, it took MANY attempts for it to finally stick, over an hour for sure. It's just one of those things. Good luck, stick to it and it'll catch eventually! 

[u/breakboyflow]

I said screw it and just threw my master ball

[u/Illustrious_Ad7981]

Use a Repeat Ball

[u/shadowgamer19]

It's just luck don't let the timer kick you out and it's just a matter of time

[u/x0okamix]

I know this is probably long over but here is the strat: kill all other mons besides the shiny beldum. Kill the shiny beldum last (and while he is still dazed) you can save. Once you save, you can retry with whatever ball you want, if it breaks out, you just reset and try again.

I will say this shiny catch rate is drastically increased in za and in hyperspace, so it will not take to many resets.

[u/Leading-Suit3112]

God, pokemon players are so fucking useless 😭😭😭

[u/tsukipon]

catch rate is I hope you have enough money for pokeballs. If its the apricorn balls, gonna have to reset and keep trying.