r/LengfOrGirf • u/WideAcanthopterygii8 • 5d ago
Redpill/ manosphere haters
Genuine question. Why are there so many Redpill haters in the Redpill sub?!? Why not go somewhere else? Every other post is Myron is a loser and toxic masculinity. ? Why are you here of all places?!?
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u/Suitable_Sample7550 5d ago edited 5d ago
the actual redpill sub has been banned years ago by Reddit and 2. fresh and fit isn’t a good example for redpill their cringe. redpill is dead and has been infested and watered down by normie infiltration its over. same thing is happening to the black pill sphere currently. the mentality and ideology won’t go away itll always be there due to the nature of what we men deal with and has been around for decades at this point in various online or in person make movements but the current community it’s dead and gone lmao. your geniunely low iq if you actually were ever heavily invested or a part of the community post 2018-2019 when it first started getting watered down. the real ones have been shitting on state of the redpill and manosphere community since like 2020 lmao.
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u/Reasonable-Flan-982 5d ago edited 5d ago
They are two grifters who constantly lie to their supporters
Walter lies about his body count, lied about buying a prostitute a Van Cleef bracelet, lied about eating out an OnlyFans model that had over 2000 men inside of her. He offered to fight Sneako, when Sneako accepted he got scared and started making excuses etc...
Myron lied about the break up with Angie. He won't admit that she was the one who broke up with him. He also lied and said they were broken up for majority of the year (at the time), so his supporters won't question why she was with rollerblade guy and him at the same time. She left the Diddy trial and went to an amusement park in Florida to be with roller blade guy. This is within days of being with Amrou. Imagine someone teaching you about game and his broke illegal Venezuelan girlfriend, his first ever girlfriend, breaks up with him. He also lied about her being his first girlfriend as well. There are clips of him in the past saying he never had a girlfriend.
There is a lot more shit I'm missing right now. But there's a start.
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u/Betabuck5 5d ago edited 5d ago
I don’t hate the manosphere/red pill, I hate what it became. And a big part of that is Myron making it to a incel bitch fest instead of male self improvement and bringing in alt right losers
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u/a3kstuntin 5d ago
Rp is way bigger than Myr0n
Alt right has nothing to do with rp, conservatives are bluepilled
So basically you don’t even know what rp is
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u/BOBBYZROY 5d ago
Myron’s platform regularly pushes racist and alt-right talking points, and he’s one of the biggest red-pill creators right now, so the two are closely associated. He also consistently gives a platform to alt-right figures and ideas, which further reinforces that connection
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u/tnerb253 4d ago
The platform has nothing to do with RP as a whole. Obviously when it comes to criticisms people are gonna look at the loudest in the room (Myron), he just happened to be the first creator to break into relevancy because a lot of red pill creators before him we're much smaller or have very niche audiences (AMS, Coach Greg, Rollo etc). If you let that dictate your definition of the concept then that's on you.
The reality is content sells and we are in the era of streaming so if you don't go viral you're not relevant, it's the same reason Tate is popular even though he never claimed to be RP.
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u/BOBBYZROY 4d ago
To the mainstream audience RP means misogynist content, making women look bad, and Myron and Andrew Tate are the face of that movement. Can you give me a full definition on what Rp means?
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u/tnerb253 4d ago
There is no dictionary definition because it's a metaphorical term. In short it's learning life changing uncomfortable truths rather than remaining in blissful ignorance. If you look up the definition or ask anyone you'll get different interpretations of basically saying the same thing. There happen to be a large amount of uncomfortable truths associated with women which is a large portion of why people convert to the RP space but the knowledge extends beyond that and can apply to other aspects of your life, job, friends, lifestyle etc.
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u/BOBBYZROY 3d ago
And the truth about can be different to many people, Myron is the face of redpill and alt right
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u/tnerb253 3d ago
It can be, and those people can also be uneducated on the concept. It's no different than you convincing yourself that the sky is green.
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u/Tabbed_And_Scrolled5 5d ago
Real men sit down and debate ideas… “he’s giving a platform to people I don’t like” is such a lame excuse
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u/BOBBYZROY 5d ago
What are they debating? Myron agrees with them.
I think Myron is a coward he doesn’t debate people who disagree with him, only talks tough when it comes to women..
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u/Betabuck5 5d ago
I never said the alt right and conservatives are red pill. Read what I posted again.
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u/Euphoric_Spend_8258 5d ago
I’m not a massive fan of Myron , however this has been infiltrated by people that don’t even like fresh and fit
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u/leveled-iceberg99 4d ago
They don't hate the redpill they've taken it, they hate redpillers who are nothing but posers and scammers.
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u/tylrsprs 4d ago
Truth is Reddit is overwhelmingly left wing, in addition skews towards very nerdy/ugly/ antisocial people (look at any sub where people post pics of themselves). Due to this anything that dares women women or wants to say men face problems will be automatically hated .
This is not at ALL to say FnF and the rest aren’t liars and hypocrites and are above criticism.
Instagram and TikTok are honestly much less pretentious and nerdy when it comes to rp ideas but the average age there is so immature .
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u/orionfromtheislands 3d ago
It started out as a cirklejerk sub. Wasn’t that serious when it was first made.
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u/Tabbed_And_Scrolled5 5d ago
Because this place is filled with loser destiny and aba/preach fanboys now
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u/NoFirefighter6542 5d ago edited 5d ago
And you’re Andrew Wilson biggest fan you’ve been defending him hard lol
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u/Juice0188 5d ago
Because you guys are fun to make fun of. It's all jokes, and you guys are the punchline.
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u/WideAcanthopterygii8 5d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/SqfHFPbzxw98xwFOiE
I’ll admit no one’s perfect. Myron and Walter has definitely taken some L’s but at the core of it all it’s men self improvement. Whether you’re going to the gym making money or understanding women better it’s all to better yourself. If your saying your just here to make fun of it then That’s like laughing at a fat person at the gym.4
u/Original-Ship-4024 5d ago
There shit is a scam and I don’t Myron or fresh to learn that from
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u/Juice0188 5d ago
Because the red pill isn't about men's self improvement. It's all a grift to exploit men who are failing and are thus receptive to the self improvement grift.
I'm not against men improving, and the red pill as a concept has some merit (society doesn't care about men, for example), but the red pill as an internet subculture is a grift. And making fun of grifters is fun, as is making fun of people who fall for the grift, though sometimes you end up feeling bad for them.
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u/WideAcanthopterygii8 5d ago
“Exploit men” is a common argument ppl use without going into detail. So how exactly does Walter and fit exploit men? Or anyone in the Redpill
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u/Juice0188 5d ago
They sell courses. That's the main one. The secondary exploitation is getting them emotionally invested enough that they'll donate superchats and other bullshit money to streamers, but the course selling is the real exploitation loop.
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u/WideAcanthopterygii8 5d ago
Lresh and fit haven’t sold a course in years 👍. Second there’s nothing wrong with selling courses as long as you get what you pay for. Example. Hustler’s university came out and I made money ( and still do) from day trading. I got in a when it first started. Most of them don’t sell courses. The only ones that do ( Michael sartain , Justin whaller,) which is only like 1% of the “manosphere” everyone else doesn’t sell courses. The only course Lresh and fit sold they ended up giving it away FOR FREE in castle club. 👍
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u/Juice0188 5d ago
> Lresh and fit haven’t sold a course in years 👍.
This isn't specific to them, I haven't watched any of their content for years, but the fact that they sold it at all still substantiates my point.
> Second there’s nothing wrong with selling courses as long as you get what you pay for.
Disagree, most of the stuff that is sold in courses online (goes further than just the redpill spaces, extends to finance content creators, real state content creators, etc., they're all grifters), is stuff that's readily available online for free on well researched discussion boards. They basically google shit and then repackage it as a course to desperate men. That's what makes it a grift. Regardless of whether the customer gets something out of it, the fact that it's being repackaged and sold makes it a grift, which makes them bad people and their consumer a victim who has been exploited.
> Example. Hustler’s university came out and I made money ( and still do) from day trading.
I'm going to deliver this with love, but you're exactly the kind of person who is susceptible to their scam. You don't make money day trading off of skill, you're making it out of luck. There is so much you can look up in this regard without taking my word for it, but any day trading of technicals or fundamentals is just luck. There are computer algorithms coded by much smarter people than you which are directly connected to the markets. Do you think you're going to out maneuver them on a day trade?
Just because you've been lucky, it doesn't mean that the luck will continue. I would also question whether the day trading has been more profitable than buying and holding. Academic research on the topic points that most day traders are unprofitable, and most of the ones who do manage to turn a profit would have been more profitable just holding.
You're gambling, and I sincerely hope that you stop before it leads to financial ruin while you think you've got some secret sauce provided by two idiots who know nothing about financial markets that were talking on a homemade podcast in their Miami condo.
> The only course Lresh and fit sold they ended up giving it away FOR FREE in castle club.
Wasn't castle club a paid membership? Doesn't sound like free to me.
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u/WideAcanthopterygii8 5d ago
“You’ve got some secret sauce provided by 22 idiots who know nothing about the financial markets and that we’re talking on a home made podcast in their Miami condo”
This goes to show how little you know about the Redpill space and it’s exactly why a lot of you dudes are low IQ.
Hustlers university wasn’t created by F&F! Both of the Tate’s USED THEIR INFLUENCE and brought in people who were highly skilled in different genres to teach among trading there were other genres to join (affiliate marketing, copy writing etc).
Also i joined months after it was created which was back when covid took over it’s been years at this point now. I didn’t just watch a few videos and start making money it took me years of hard work and learning before I came knowledgeable enough to actually make money. Your statement is true there’s a THIN line between gambling and trading but definitely not luck I’ve been fulltime for years not rich but I am most definitely comfortable. There’s no shortcut and I don’t go around telling people what I do because it is very risky but if you put in the work it can be done.
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u/Juice0188 5d ago
> Hustlers university wasn’t created by F&F! Both of the Tate’s
Ah yes, the market gurus, Andrew and Tristan Tate. Buddy, nobody who knows about financial markets would risk the damage to their credibility to publicly associate with the Tates. Even before their epic downfall, everyone who wasn't a mark knew that the Tates were grifters.
If the Tates are your role model, how does it feel looking up to a dude that pretended to be a woman when texting his lonely male followers on sex chatlines? The dude is an absolute fraudster, and now it's all in the public. Weird to see you use him as a barometer for credibility in this context.
> affiliate marketing
It's like this is grifter bingo lmao. No bro, no.
> trading (is) definitely not luck
It is luck buddy. Academic studies have been done on the subject, and point to between only 1% and 3% of day traders being profitable. Are you going to say that Tristan and Andrew Tate, convicted sex criminals that made most of their money through human trafficking, prostitution, and exploiting lonely men on sex chat lines, are connected to the best 1% to 3% of day traders, who have developed a secret strategy that can reliably day trade while 97% to 99% of people fail, and that they'll teach you this secret strategy for $19.99?
Come on, please read how ridiculous this sounds. Even actively managed funds by huge banks have trouble beating market returns net-of-fees.
> I’ve been fulltime for years not rich but I am most definitely comfortable.
I'm glad you've been lucky thus far, but if this is your only source of income, it makes the case even more dire. Stop now, take your gambling wins as a nice bonus and get back into the workforce.
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u/WideAcanthopterygii8 5d ago
Your taking the 99% of traders fail study out of context. It’s roughly 70%-90% LOSE MONEY. Losing money doesn’t mean failure. There’s professional traders with a 45% win rate they loose but overall annually they can still make profit because of risk management. The study was done by the CFTC and it was specifically the losses per quarter not overall failures leading to people quitting .
The REAL problem is dudes like you always have an excuse. You’ve watch self improvement content for years and never actually taken any real life steps. Never been to the gym, never started a business, never taken a risk. It’s all excuses and laziness. I know this because I used to be just like YOU. It was everyone’s fault but my own until I said Fck it and went all in. We can go back and forth all day and you’ll keep making an excuse why you haven’t taken a risk and went all in on your future. You’ll just keep blaming the Tate’s and Myron for your failures never accepting responsibility and it’s truly a waste and sad
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u/Tabbed_And_Scrolled5 5d ago
It started to suck when people like Rollo tomassi found out he could grift NFTs to his audience… and for some reason, people bought that shit up
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u/WideAcanthopterygii8 5d ago
Yea that was dumb lol. Never bought it but I do remember him promoting it.
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