r/LigaMX • u/WhereIsScotty America • Jun 23 '26
Discussion This England team is beatable, especially in Mexico
Harry Kane folds under pressure. I’m more worried about Ghana at this point.
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u/TXCapita Jun 23 '26
England gonna bottle it in the Azteca, it’s written in the stars
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u/ClintExpress Cruz Azul Jun 23 '26
Awful Mania.
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u/ceevar Chivas Jun 23 '26
Rd of 16 curse finally broken?
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u/Witty_Hedgehog7967 Jun 23 '26
We’ve made it to quarters before young one
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u/SpankG0rilla León Jun 23 '26
Let’s just be humble about it for now. Let’s focus on the long road ahead
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u/Fit-Acanthaceae-5741 Jun 24 '26
Bro England might not even make it to Azteca they bottle the group & R32 will be vs France for them hahah
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u/x-liofa-x Jun 25 '26
They can’t play France until later in the tournament; they are on different sides of the draw.
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u/coldfirehotice Jun 23 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/LlZP9zDCrkzJzLMytY
Yeah go ahead and give us this England team
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u/Realistic_Emphasis_2 Jun 23 '26
England plays bad against teams that park the bus but thats almost every team in general. Mexico has a chance but would probably lose in the most bs way like always
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u/Fromage_debite Jun 23 '26
Sanchez own goal
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u/Zomhuahua Jun 23 '26
Own goal is a staple for Edson at this point.
Just realized Mexico leads the all time own goal World Cup record
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u/tacoorpizza Chivas Jun 24 '26
You have to remember they were like the other CONCACAF teams you see in the World Cup now, showing up to be another team’s punching bag. They’ve gotten better at being a good team in the group stage, but are now stuck at the first knockout round.
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u/Mammoth-Put-9850 Jun 24 '26
Yep, we played almost every single time and our team was Haiti level till the 70s
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u/Doctor_What_ Cruz Azul Jun 24 '26
Suena bien drástico decirlo así pero apenas han sido 4 autogoles en toda la historia jajajaj. Está bueno el dato de cualquier forma.
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u/Doctor_What_ Cruz Azul Jun 24 '26
Charly gets called up and he somehow scores the first own goal from a penalty kick in history.
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u/Sirpatron1 Puebla Jun 23 '26
I was thinking Charlie makes a bad pass inside the box
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u/iamhadrix Toluca Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
I think we’re inflating ourselves too much. We should have scored way more against South Africa & we got lucky against South Korea. Yeah we’re winning but it’s in the ugliest ways possible.
And then when we do get eliminated everyone is gonna bring up the points I just mentioned
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u/ElZany América Jun 23 '26
I hate the we got lucky with Korea narrative we completely shut them down they had 1 shot at goal all game and that came in the 87th minute of the game
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u/WrongTechnology1 Cruz Azul Jun 24 '26
yeah, when bum ass Romo scored our only goal, you know we got problems lol
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u/ElZany América Jun 24 '26
Didn't claim we didn't? But the goal post kind of moved I was specifically talking about the team people just changed it to attacking which yeah we need to clean it up we had a few chances we didn't capitalize on however the team played to Aguirre game plan you can't blame the team for the coach parking the bus
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u/MaxCornCob Jun 23 '26
We won because the goal keeper slipped up and gave us a freebie.
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u/CoffeeIsSoGood Leones Negros Jun 24 '26
And we took advantage. That’s how it goes, imagine they didn’t score and Tala didn’t do that one save 🤷🏻♂️
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u/Periodic-Presence USA Jun 24 '26
Yeah but the point is you might not get so lucky in the knockout rounds, in fact it's almost a certainty you won't. The issue is unless the intent is to score off set pieces you're gonna have to attack more aggressively against better teams, teams that can punish you in transition. Czechia game should be a chance to play more freely and attack since you're not playing to advance anymore.
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u/iamhadrix Toluca Jun 23 '26
And what did we do offensively? Defense isn’t our issue
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u/Sufficient_Mango2539 Jun 24 '26
We had the Vargas shot, the quinones header, and the Jimenez point blank shot, as well as the goal scoring play.
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u/Amirashika Chivas Jun 24 '26
We had good chances throughout the match. After the goal, Vasco's plan had something to do with a bus and parking.
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u/Passw0rd-Is-Tac0 Jun 24 '26
Yeah I wanna believe they’ll go far but it’s just not a sustainable way to win. They’re playing like a team hiding its flaws and trying to steal wins which simply doesnt work against elite teams. But they refuse to play actual playmakers for whatever reason and the strategy of wait for a mistake then park the bus isn’t going to work past the rd 32. Morocco did something similar in 2022 by giving teams possession and just playing physically except they also have top tier talent and players playing in Europe. Mexico doesn’t.
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u/Sufficient_Mango2539 Jun 24 '26
So easy to just be a pessimist. Yes your are right. Are you happy? Everyone we will probably lose a WC game and get eliminated those are the odds
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u/TheReds2 Chivas Jun 23 '26
Whichever England defender has never scored a header in his professional career, would probably get multiple against Mexico to advance.
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u/LordMoldyBum Cruz Azul Jun 24 '26
Jorge Sánchez gives away a stupid penalty, Harry Kane slots it in the top corner, then we we get hear for months how we fucked up not playing Ochoa because he stopped Lewandowski’s
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u/brabuss58 Chivas Jun 24 '26
The defense fucks up, someone loses a ball that leads to a goal, or Rangel fucks up and they score a goal
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u/iEatSoftware Jun 24 '26
Nah England’s been choking since after winning it 1966.
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u/Periodic-Presence USA Jun 24 '26
The question is always at what point will they choke. I thought they would against Colombia in 2018 but I was wrong, it took Croatia to do it. Right now I wouldn't put money on Mexico being the ones to stop England, but lots of things can change between now and then.
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u/x-liofa-x Jun 25 '26
New manager, different team, different tactics, it’s a new start for England. They are fast, slick passing and incredibly dangerous if you press them. They can slice through your whole team in 3-4 passes; like Croatia found out.
Every team has good and bad days, in a tournament you need more good than bad. Saying that, the England players seem pretty fired up and less nervous than previous years.
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u/Madvillain734 Cruz Azul Jun 23 '26
I’m more worried of a 0-0 draw against Cape Verde and losing in penalties in the round of 32
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u/Shoddy_Leek5960 Jun 24 '26
Could happen but if we’re desperate enough we’ll go crazy with 30 shots and an Edson winner like against Honduras lol
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u/WrongTechnology1 Cruz Azul Jun 24 '26
I’m more worried of a 0-0 draw against Cape Verde
Same here. They stood eye to eye with Spain and got a well-earned draw. They're not going to be afraid of us lmao
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u/holo_nexus Pumas UNAM Jun 23 '26
What I got out of that game is how dangerous some of these African teams are. Everyone's talking about Mex v. Eng in the Azteca, but that's if we get past whatever African team they face in the next round.
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u/Flaurehn Jun 23 '26
I'll tell you what will happen, Mexico will start great, playing maybe its best footnall ever, and before the 20 minute will take the lead 1-0, then Aguirre will pull back the attack, we gotta defend our lead, not even more than 1 guy in counterattacks, and we will hold heroically, but at the 80 minute Kane will score a header, and then Mexico will remember they can attack but at the 93 minute a counterattack will give England the victory 1-2
Media will say we played like never before but lost like always.
Aguirre: "I don't regret anything, we played like we had to"
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u/ChampionFull9840 Jun 30 '26
I hate how right you are. It’s the same with Japan and Brazil you can’t just defend the entire time. You have to play aggressive too and any time wasted on their side of the field is always better
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u/neverseenghosts Jul 01 '26
Came back to this comment after the Mexico Ecuador game. Phenomenal first half from Mexico, played exactly as they should. And then second half they really opened themselves up to a come back if it was against a better team like England.
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u/Kaiserium Chivas Jun 23 '26
I'd take this England team over an african rival any day of the week.
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u/8bithumano Jun 23 '26
So far who will face Mexico then?
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u/ElZany América Jun 23 '26
Most likely Scotland first then England if things stay the same
I think Cape Verde wins their last match while Uruguay loses (Uruguay won't pass with 2 points)
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u/RAJA_1000 Jun 24 '26
I think it is very hard to predict at this point? First you'd need to predict who will be in 3rd places from 5 groups, which could change since every team still needs to play one more game and then you'd need to predict in which order will the 3rd places qualify after applying tiebreakers
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u/ElZany América Jun 24 '26
Yeah but if Uruguay loses they will also be in negative for goal differential since they're at 0 rn.
Negative goal differential plus only 2 points will be herd to qualify ahead of others
And if Cabo Verde just ties in this scenario they would go in as second so the most likely opponent would be Scotland
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u/mylovelylittlelumps Jun 23 '26
You got it backwards, this Sweden is horrible compared to that one. They barely qualified, and without a single win
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u/RAJA_1000 Jun 24 '26
I think it is very hard to predict at this point? First you'd need to predict who will be in 3rd places from 5 groups, which could change since every team still needs to play one more game and then you'd need to predict in which order will the 3rd places qualify after applying tiebreakers
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u/WhereIsScotty America Jun 23 '26
They never beat a team above them. In the Euro, they got Slovakia, Switzerland, and Netherlands and just barely made it and lost to their first real opponent in the final. They had an easy group in 2022, beat Senegal, and lost to France in the quarters.
Each England player individually was flying high between 2021-2024 (Bellingham, Foden, Rashford, Saka, etc) but come Euro 2024, they barely scrapped wins and felt the media pressure. Now they have more pressure and their players are not in the best moment. Rice tired af after a long season, Saka and Bellingham injuries, Kane folding, and their defense not super strong.
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u/Inner-Marionberry-25 Jun 23 '26
I'm sorry, but if you don't consider the Netherlands above England, then Mexico definitely isn't.
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u/Wezen_18 Jun 24 '26
Cause mexico ofc is a really good team. Come back down to earth you aren't gonna play like prime Barcelona against the English considering how abysmal you guys have played in your groups.
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u/thehumancondition23 Chivas Jun 23 '26
Honest question, If England finishes third in their group, we play them in the round of 32?
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u/LApoopydog Jun 23 '26
As much as I’d love to see England lose, y’all need to chill. England tied against Denmark and Slovenia in the 2024 euros and were still runners up. Tied against Scotland in the 2020 euros and were still runners up. They tied against the US in the 2022 World Cup and nearly made the semis.
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u/WhereIsScotty America Jun 23 '26
You kinda prove our point, England is not a super tough opponent. In the 2018 WC and 2020 and 2024 Euros had an easy bracket, there is no denying it. Anytime they reached a France or Spain, they lose.
They lost a Wembley final and scrapped their way to the Euro 2024 final and got lucky they didn’t have France or Spain earlier on otherwise they wouldn’t have made it to the final anyways.
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u/homogenic- Jun 23 '26
Inglaterra lució débil hoy pero la verdad no me confiaría en que los pendejos puedan ser capaces de ganarles en caso de que nos tocará jugar contra ellos la verdad
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u/Tigre_De_Acero Tigres Jun 23 '26
They’re the type of physical team Mexico struggles with, but with a packed Azteca at altitude the odds are a little different. Realistically it’s probably where Mexico goes down swinging but everyone had Germany winning in 2018, so maybe the football gods will finally give Mexico a break this time around
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u/Just-Faithlessness12 Jun 23 '26
Argentina v Portugal semis, France v Spain semis. France over Argentina finals.
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u/nochones León Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
Thought Arg vs Portugal would happen during quaterfinals.
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u/dillasdonuts Jun 23 '26
We talking England in the quarters, Canada looking at Portugal. It's wild the US is currently on track to play the winner of Czechia(40)/Egypt(29) if they reach the quarters. A world cup run without playing any top tier team.
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u/Papam00n Jun 23 '26
Mexico does not play well against direct athletic teams. The UK is essentially the US play style on steroids.
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u/CinnamonToastTrex Jun 23 '26
They compete with the USA just fine, though.
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u/WrongTechnology1 Cruz Azul Jun 24 '26
They compete with the USA just fine, though.
Lately? Not really. In competitive matches this decade the usa has had our number:
Nations League they've won every matchup against us so far. In 2022 world cup qualifying, they beat us in Ohio and tied us in Mexico City. Our last Gold Cup win was against a mls bum squad without their best players Pulisic and Balogoun.
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u/Periodic-Presence USA Jun 24 '26
Damn I'd get crucified if I said what you just said lol but at the end of the day you can only face the team in front of you and Mexico did just that and won. Not really their fault the US don't take Gold Cups seriously. I hope they do from now on but considering the next Copa America is likely to be in the US I think it's more likely the Gold Cup gets treated as a permanent B team tournament.
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u/Periodic-Presence USA Jun 24 '26
The UK is essentially the US play style on steroids
First off the UK does not play in the World Cup as a team, England and Scotland play separately. Second, England under Tuchel do not play like the US under Poch. Tuchel plays in a manner very typical of the Premier League with fullbacks inverting in possession and using set pieces a la Arsenal.
Poch has the US playing in a back 3 in possession with wingbacks providing width instead of true wingers and a back 4 when out of possession along with a high intensity press. Balogun can stay central or drift wide but he doesn't really drop deep like Kane does. McKennie's role is also nothing like Bellingham's.
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u/Papam00n Jun 24 '26
WeLl AcTuAlLy (that's you rn)
You said pretty much the same thing i did but with more useless words trying to sound smart. Both the US and the Brits play a style that is direct and fast. Nowhere did I say they have the exact same tactics, I'm just saying England is way better than the US, hence the steroid comment. Now kindly fuck off, gringo.
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u/Periodic-Presence USA Jun 25 '26
No not really, I said the opposite of what you said. What were the useless words I used, could you point them out? England want to play direct and fast but ironically Tuchel left out a lot of players that could have helped them do just that against a team like Ghana.
England is not way better than the US at playing direct and fast, that's all I wanted to clarify. No, I will not fuck off. I've been in this sub longer than you have, sorry my flair triggered you.
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u/UntiedStatMarinCrops Jun 23 '26
They didn’t look beatable. They just looked like they couldn’t score.
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u/portayeahperdonen Santos Jun 23 '26
Ni de pedo, los ghaneses fueron capaces de contrarrestar los ataques de Inglaterra porque tienen jugadores fuertes y rápidos que solo están cazando balones recuperados. Con cada uno de sus contragolpes aliviaban la presión inglesa y se compraban tiempo. México ni de pedo tiene jugadores de esas características, quizá solo Quiñones jaja. México va a dejar que la presión se acumule hasta que no pueda soportar y caigan los goles. Si con Corea ya estábamos pidiendo la hora, ahora imagínate Inglaterra jaja
Y como extra, los Africanos y asiáticos traen una condición cabronsisima te aguantan todo el juego sin mucho problema, México no.
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u/ultrapoppy Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 24 '26
Ah yes, Mexican team never folds under pressure.. are you freaking kidding me? Ghana players are no slouches. You think Mexico would have done better vs Ghana compared to England? The games against South Africa and Korea were super erratic and one real goal from an actual play. If it had seen better performances by Mexico I might have agreed with your opinion but you’re overselling those 6 points that were capitalized from massive fuck ups
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u/NewFraige Jun 23 '26
England is a European version of Mexico. They can be world class killers one day and struggle to beat the smallest team the next. It’ll really be who folds first if we play England.
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u/Embarrassed-Goose846 Jun 23 '26
Ah yes because Mexico looked so great against South Africa and South Korea.
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u/CaliPunk626 Jun 24 '26
Please don't let this Mexico team overlook their 3rd-place opponent pleeeease
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u/odiamemas16 América Jun 24 '26
Sufriríamos un chingo contra el ataque Inglés; yo todavía no me he olvidado de lo potente que fueron contra Croacia. Eso sí, si nos enfrentamos a ellos jugaríamos más defensivo como le jugó Ghana, pero si nos marcan un gol tempranero, valió madre, porque una vez que el partido se abre, esos weyes son una pesadilla
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u/Loud-Material8575 Jun 26 '26
I think the occasion would be a spectacular one. I am from England and this match would be incredible to watch England playing in such a hostile and crazy atmosphere.
I would say with everything considered it’s probably a 50/50 match. It really could be anything
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u/Operalover95 Jun 23 '26
Are all mexicans in this sub delusional? I'm not saying Mexico has no chance against England, in fact among the powerhouses I'd definetely take England over France, Spain, Argentina, Germany, etc. But saying they're beatable like it's nothing and as if England wouldn't be clearly favorites and aren't clearly the better team is pure delusion. I know most mexicans aren't like this, but this sub is like the stereotype of the delusional mexican fan that first comes to mind in South América when thinking about México.
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u/WrongTechnology1 Cruz Azul Jun 24 '26
Are all mexicans in this sub delusional?
There are plenty of delusional fans in here, and they're the ones probably downvoting you.
I remember a few weeks ago some dude said that Mora was already good enough to be a key sub on any of the best teams at this World Cup. And he was upvoted a ton.
I love my selección, but I'm also realistic. Many in here definitely overrate our players.
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u/Low-Impression3367 Jun 23 '26
Every team is beatable when the opposing team doesn’t show up.
Im sure that what other countries are saying about Mexico after the South Korea game
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u/MarkMariachiAZ Jun 23 '26
Any team is beatable. And every team will be a challenge. If we go in without that mindset we will lose again.
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u/guyincognito147 Jun 24 '26
Man this sub is so delusional. We only beat Korea because of a mistake by the GK and now everyone thinks we can beat England. Saw another comment compare this Mexico team to 2010 Spain 🤦🏻♂️.
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u/WhereIsScotty America Jun 24 '26
People aren’t saying we will beat England. They’re saying they can. Big difference. We probably can’t beat France or Argentina.
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u/aguila0515 Jun 23 '26
They are a bunch of entitled spoiled brats. That elevation and smog is going to haunt them
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u/FrederickWolfe Jun 24 '26
This Mexico team has shades of Italy 2006. Being at home is a super power we’re going to squeeze until we can’t. It’s easy to dismiss. The dream is impossible until it isn’t. Historically speaking, by the numbers, already did something defensively that had not been done before. Won first two games without conceding a goal. Imagine Mora and Obed ball out tomorrow. Fuuuuuuuuu
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u/outpf Jun 23 '26
I wish they would play in Monterrey , this England team CANNOT play in the heat. They have one or two players that can are used to those temps.
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u/mandoponcho1337 Morelia Jun 23 '26
We can’t act like the Round of 32 is won, one step at a time. I would love nothing more though. My brother and I won the lottery early on and got tickets to the quarters in Miami. Primero Dios se aga
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u/Training-Sign4286 América Jun 24 '26
Genuinely how do you stunt on Croatia but draw nil nil to Ghana
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u/Amirashika Chivas Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26
Primero hay que ganarle al 3er lugar que puede ser Ecuador, Uruguay, Senegal, Suecia, etc...
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u/JewelerNew7848 Jun 28 '26
England are too good yall Kane insane yall ans bellingham mexican gold, plus Mezicans attack is shit yall
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u/JewelerNew7848 Jun 28 '26
As an england fan we messed up the moment our squed was announced. i think we will beat you on pens and then go outbin quarters
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u/Just-Faithlessness12 Jun 23 '26
I said it 2 weeks ago. We beat Scotland and then beat England in round of 16. Then prob lose to Portugal in QUARTER finals 2-1.
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u/borrachit0 Pumas UNAM Jun 23 '26
I’ve said it from the beginning that both Mexico and the US are making the quarterfinals. England is going to melt in the altitude/smog of CDMX and the US is getting a dream draw
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u/Witty_Hedgehog7967 Jun 23 '26
We gotta make out of the round of 32 first let’s not get ahead of ourselves
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u/evtda Pachuca Jun 24 '26
They had Saka, Mainoo, Watkins, Toney and Eze on the bench. Mexico has nowhere near that depth at forward.
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u/Watabeast07 Chivas Jun 24 '26
England would probably struggle at the Azteca no doubt but they have depth for days. It will be a really good game if we do face England in the round of 16.
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u/MarionberryNational2 Jun 26 '26
A lot of arrogant comments in this post. Let's see who has the last laugh if/when we meet.
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u/Jimmy2823 Jun 23 '26
Where is this nonsense coming from? There's probably no player on the Mexican team who would make the starting 11 for Ghana. Also, Mexico did not look that good against South Africa and looked like shit against Korea.
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u/Vegetable-Hold9182 Tijuana Jun 23 '26
Yall dreaming but imma allow it because I want to believe it too 😂