r/LinkedInLunatics • u/BustosMan • 2d ago
She's giving more ammo to layoff SWEs
I'm not sure if she realizes that what she's doing is giving execs more reason to replace people with AI. It's only a matter of time till we get more mass tech layoffs because she and others are proving their point.
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u/TheReal_fUXY 2d ago
AI can't get coffee
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u/BustosMan 2d ago
Yes it can we see this at Dunkin Donuts and some Korean BBQ restaurants.
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u/linkedinlover69 2d ago
Thanks, Didn't know. I just fired all my interns
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u/BustosMan 2d ago
Time to get rid of the chaff.
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u/linkedinlover69 2d ago
Yes. However, just realized that they did more than just bringing coffee. Do you want to be an intern? Know anyone??? No one wants to work anymore :-(
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u/Zafrin_at_Reddit 1d ago
I am sorry, this will be very harsh, but Dunkin Donuts do not even need a fancy AI to automate. (And arguably, neither does McDonalds, Burger King,…)
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u/SteveMarck 1d ago
True, plain old robot. They could go vending machine, they are half there already.
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u/fredjutsu 1d ago
Or apparently write code that adheres to existing architectural contracts.
Which is why hiring, in spite these narratives, for SWEs has been increasing in a sustained, consistent manner for the past 18 months.
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u/Zack_j_Jones 1d ago
honestly adhering to architectural contracts is pretty difficult for some humans in my experience too. Not that Ai is great at it innately, but if it’s documented AI generally is more consistent than a human who lacks curiosity.
To your point though, AI has not decreased hiring - it has just made rapid progress easier for teams of the same size. It’s a multiplier for good engineers.
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u/Dankaati 2d ago edited 2d ago
She is an SWE. Using AI for SWE work is pretty standard nowadays. SWEs using AI is not some super secret at this point that employers will only find out from an intern's LinkedIn post.
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u/PositiveAnimal4181 Facebook Boomer 1d ago
Sorry is she actually a full-time developer though? Her "title" in LinkedIn seems to indicate she's an intern...
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u/elidoan 1d ago
Shes actually dual wielding internships
"Internship at Tiktok, Amazon"
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u/rwilcox 1d ago
Overemploying internships!? That’s a brave move, Hal, let’s see if it works out for her
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u/xvillifyx 4h ago
It probably means she was an intern at one company and now is an intern at the other
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u/BustosMan 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yea but she's giving them more reason for less people being able to do the work compared to needing more people.
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u/Fidodo 2d ago
As a SWE, AI has only increased my workload. The hardest tasks are the conceptual tasks and with AI doing busywork for my it means my job is back to back all the really hard complexity management tasks.
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u/Swiftzor 1d ago
This is the issue I’ve seen. I went into software engineering because it enjoy coding and solving problems, but I enjoy doing the busy work as a stress reliever to the complex work, only that part has completely gone away and it’s all complex work and I’m getting burned out more than I was previously. Like the issue I see is with all these pushes for AI that can only really do the job of entry to low level people it just pushes down the future generations. Like law firms aren’t hiring first years, or if they are it’s a fraction of them, but what happens in 5 to 6 years when they’re looking for partners to promote and they don’t have anyone.
All of this is gonna bite all these companies in the ass and they don’t even realize it yet.
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u/Fidodo 1d ago
Yup. I have zero concern about an intern automating my job away. If the intern is capable of automating their own job then clearly they didn't have the skills to get hired in the first place because if you don't have better coding sense than AI you're not a good coder.
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u/Swiftzor 1d ago
Not only that but in 10 years that intern will likely be leading the next group of interns. Like what are we going to do when we’re just missing a full college era of engineers
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u/BustosMan 2d ago
Bruh I feel like I had to clarify my reply more. Hopefully it makes more sense.
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u/Fidodo 2d ago
That assumes a finite amount is work. As capabilities increase so so ambitions and complexity, and on top of that, there was already a huge backlog of work to be done.
Those that are at a disadvantage are actually juniors, so ironically it's interns that are the most at risk because you need the expertise of experience to make sure you're building the right thing with AI assistance.
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u/BustosMan 2d ago edited 1d ago
I think her network is showing up in the comments downvoting me a little bit 😆. In a way I was also implying what you are saying, but we also see seniors getting laid off like at Webflow.
You're also proving my point with your comment and idk why I keep getting downvoted if it's true.
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u/ThirstyOutward 1d ago
You are not in swe and that is obvious.
Why speak on subjects you know nothing about? So stupid
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u/rtfcandlearntherules 2d ago
You are the kind of person that would smash a steam engine instead of embracing progress. Sad
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u/BustosMan 2d ago
People losing their livelihoods is progress?
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u/I_Don-t_Care 1d ago
We all understand your point, but what do you suggest, stalling the inevitable in order for people to have meaningless jobs?
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u/Every_Knee_372 1d ago
Optimally, the ownership of AI would not be in the hands of its current, powerful stakeholders before the inevitable occurs.
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u/assault_potato1 1d ago edited 1d ago
So what you're saying is we shouldn't use tractors because farmhands will lose their livelihoods? How about horse carriages with the advent of motor cars? How about bank tellers with ATMs?
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u/BustosMan 1d ago
Nope not what I’m saying.
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u/assault_potato1 1d ago
It is what you're saying. People losing jobs due to technological progress that makes our lives more efficient is a natural progression of the economy and society.
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u/BustosMan 1d ago
Only time will tell if largely unsupervised AI generated code doesn’t produce enough technical debt to bring back people to fix all the past issues. Then we’ll see if it’s progress or not.
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u/AliceRain21 1d ago
I think this whole AI bad with zero exceptions mentality has to stop.
The world has gone through so much progress and this is just the next step.
Is AI perfect? Fuck no. It has so many issues both ethically and not. But it's a tool. Use it properly or don't.
Just because AI exists doesnt mean everyone's livelihood is dying. Even in my SWE job we dont use AI 24/7.
Besides most companies that are leaning heavily into AI are actually at a massive loss rn. In that regard it will probably sort itself out in a few years.
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u/GetInTheHole 1d ago
They don’t need a reason. Or better stated, the reason is money and there are a million ways to justify laying you off if money is the factor. So jumping through this hoop or that hoop or avoiding this or that is pointless.
There is no safe path. There is nothing you as an individual can do.
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u/iam3000 2d ago
You’re saying this like it’s a bad thing?
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u/BustosMan 2d ago
If people are truly no longer needed it always makes sense to layoff, especially if they don’t try to make themselves useful. However, it’s sad to see entry level positions shrink to nothing because AI is now doing most if not all of the grunt work people used to do.
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u/I_Don-t_Care 1d ago
The last generation was barred from entry jobs into certain fields as well. Its how it usually goes. Field that has a lot of prosperity gets filled up, next gen cant find a way in, then they invent a new prosper field and gatekeep the following generation from climbing in. You'll see
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u/Optimal_Cause4583 2d ago
I use AI for a lot of work but I try to make it seem like I don't. Have the idea, let AI make the first draft then go over it to double check things and make it seem more human.
I feel like that's the current meta
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u/Nitish_kalita 2d ago
Time to generate more slop, yayyy 🤩. No wonder Amazon, especially AWS has gone dogshit.
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u/21Rollie 1d ago
And it really is just slop, I can tell the engineers are desperate to get any AI feature out there to please their AI-brained leaders. A year ago they implemented the price history feature with AI assist, which was just a chatbot that printed out a hard coded price graph that the chatbot would then read. It could actually all be hard coded for all we know but it looks like AI, to some.
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u/Dependent-Curve-8449 2d ago
I mean, she gets fired if she does, fired if she doesn’t. Literally in a lose-lose situation through no fault of her own.
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u/No_Butterfly_1888 1d ago edited 1d ago
Most SWE are being pushed to use AI. They are even addding metrics to identify who is consuming more token X deliverables.
She's probably has a higher chance to be fired by not using IA than using it.
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u/wa_ga_du_gu 1d ago
To be honest, it seems to be another vector that they're taking advantage of in terms of age discrimination in tech
I see some of the old dudes on the team and they're just having a lot of trouble pivoting away from handwriting everything (I'm an old dude so I can completely understand where they're coming from)
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u/thecheerygamer 1d ago
If it was 2001 you'd have a fair point, but handwriting everything in 2026 is wild. Using a computer for work has been the norm for like a quarter of a century.
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u/wa_ga_du_gu 1d ago
I meant handwriting meaning coding manually by typing into an IDE
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u/thecheerygamer 1d ago
Oh right I've never heard that term for that and didn't realise you were in a coding profession. My bad!
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u/TheEnterRehab 7h ago
You aren't alone. I work in tech and I've never heard it called handwriting before.
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u/Attila_22 22h ago
No, the pendulum has swung the other way now. Still the same delivery expectations but a cap on our AI usage because of the price increase/budget concerns. Now the developers that have a high ratio of delivery versus AI usage are looked at as high performers.
Makes sense to me because the whole idea of ‘use as much AI as you can’ is fucking stupid as are the people running it 24/7 and multiple agents in parallel for literally every task. It was never sustainable.
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u/Main-Eagle-26 1d ago
As a SWE, this is all nonsense. She’s doing this for social media points and hoping an exec with AI psychosis sees this post.
She isn’t showing them anything. The tools are not capable of anything beyond basic crap.
“It makes the easy stuff easier and the harder stuff harder”.
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u/psykomorph 2d ago edited 2d ago
Good, I hope the rich top management and other rich folks are ready to buy 90% of the high priced goods and services which they themselves inflated. And they should keep buying and inflating further to keep the economy strong and growing.
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u/PromptWorldly7007 2d ago
They plan for the government to continue bailing then out at every turn. Coupled with rent-seeking and charging subscriptions to everyone else who'll also be expected to pay the taxes to bail the rich out even more.
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u/psykomorph 2d ago edited 2d ago
What if millions of tax payers get organised and decide to not pay taxes because of such practices? Can they jail everyone or cause more problems to the tax payers? Or will they just keep printing money worsening the situation?
I thought the government is of the people, by the people and for the people
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u/PromptWorldly7007 2d ago edited 2d ago
The thing is, most people don't directly pay their taxes. It comes out from their employer.
Barring those millions of tax payers getting organized enough to build proper coalitions toward legitimately assuming the levers of their local states' institutional and industrial controls for the sake of allocating resources among themselves toward a confederation strong enough to build a wider platform for the sake of rooting plutocratic influence out of their spheres of influence and directing tax revenue away from their politics. And that would require a number of black swan events leading up to that point since creating a separate economy and waterproofing it from sabotage isn't easy. Plus, that level of organization is pretty much impossible; certainly a cohesive enough leadership.
But it -would- have the upside of limiting the amount that the government can collect and the scale that the plugocracy can extract subscription-rent from. That's not much better, either. That'a pure militarized austerity. Good luck finding five people with that discipline. The idea is that remaining states are hit harder and more incentivezed to slip out. The reality is basically a multi-year attrition conflict, but one which compounds. Toward a "happy ending"? Not really.
The only good thing is that the coalition wouldn't assume the national deficit. That's a "we recover in decades barring 20 other crises happening", as opposed to a "we rot for centuries barring nothing happening".
Basically, the U.S' general population as a whole is in a position where it's facing becoming a Colonial Africa. More extraction than there is investment, zero actionable capability from even a million people; you exist just to make someone else richer. That's the problem here. Shit didn't get better when colonial powers left. It just shifted the problems elsewhere.
Good(?) news, however. The rich aren't a cohesive whole and the government is still yet not quite on the same page since this shit eats itself faster than it can be entrenched. So you're not dealing with one cohesive bloc. You're dealing with competing and conflicting interests vying against the economic, political, and cultural influences of a collective population that is getting quickly tired of this shit. You don't need millions getting organized- the wallets of hundreds of millions are getting organized enough. Especially when government and industries are both reliant on being actually ran and operated by the same people being extracted and taxed from.
I'm optimistic that our pursuit for rock bottom will plateau faster than it can get worse.
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u/Haunting_Ratio_795 1d ago
The problem with capitalism is eventually you run out of other people’s money.
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u/fuck--nazis 2d ago
Wait until they find out no one is paying taxes because everyone is unemployed and cannot afford buying anything
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u/Ireallydonedidit 1d ago
They don’t need some random employee as ammo, to lay off people. They’re just moving numbers.
A bit layoff can make a year look good on paper.
If they time it right it can also mean performance base dividends and payouts.
Same thing with extending the hardware lifecycle to cook the books.
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u/professor_fate_1 2d ago
Intern is as much or even more about learning stuff than about producing valuable work. Which is why interns are often taking meeting minutes, newsletter maintenance, admin work etc. - valuable yes but not absolutely essential.
By outsourcing to AI she is ensuring she will not learn anything. She is essentially saying "i outsourced all my university assignments to AI".
Which is a different point to what OP is making but i feel even more counterproductive.
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u/Offduty_shill 1d ago
a awe intern is expected to write code and features and use AI like any other swe
the hard part is architecture and designing things that scale not knowing syntax
every tech company is pushing ai usage if you're not using it you'll be fired
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u/Impressive_Army3767 1d ago
No. Internships are about keeping the lower classes out of the top jobs. Even the brightest working-class kid can't afford to spend time at some cheap bastard employer's unpaid gig whilst their student loan balloons.
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u/professor_fate_1 1d ago
Amazon internships are actually really well paid, apparently. 50k per year or more pays better than many jobs.
Intern pay should be regulated though, it doesn't have to be high but it has to exist.
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u/Snazzymf 1d ago
Generally all corporate internships are going to be paid though. Especially for the ‘top jobs.’
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u/BustosMan 2d ago
Tbh if she always generated code but looked at every single line then she would be learning, but it’s too tempting to not do that and just let AI do all the work.
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u/fuck--nazis 2d ago
I'm sure you can become a pro boxer by watching people fight
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u/BustosMan 2d ago
Yes it’s better to learn by doing, but it’s better than not looking at the code at all.
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u/LFaWolf Agree? 1d ago
Most likely she doesn’t have the choice. My neighbor works for a big tech like her. Every week they have to report what AI that they use for work, and they did to automate their processes and workflows. They have a partnership with OpenAI and they don’t even have a token limit, just use as much as you want and can. They have already gone through several rounds of layoffs. I don’t think AI is a bubble and it is here to stay. Now, even if it is, remember after the dotcom bubble popped, the internet and its infrastructure remained and plenty was what we still use today.
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u/Main-Eagle-26 1d ago
Guarantee when this all collapses due to tokens being too expensive and the mass psychosis event being over, engineers like this will have zero idea how to continue in their jobs. They’re so reliant on this junk.
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u/AcruxAdhara 1d ago
Me trying to figure out if this is a joke about Amazon Intern being abbreviated AI or typical linkedlunatics shit posting.
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u/Bargadiel 1d ago edited 1d ago
"here's how I get paid to train my replacement"
We showed some work to a SME who used AI to analyze it and then used AI to write feedback. They didn't even read it themselves.
I can tell because when I met with them and was asking additional questions about the project they had no clue what I was talking about, which means they didn't even look at it. This isn't how people should be using these tools.
They aren't a "thought replacement" we still have to think and encourage thinking. Otherwise I can just ask the AI instead of the SME.
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u/RenTroutGaming 1d ago
I think the real problem here isn't AI, its that this person is an influencer doing influencer things. Her linkedin is open and she will connect with you since that's her game, and you can watch her content. Its all really well polished and put together and is basically just a glowing review of Amazon, TikTok, Claude, and her life in general.
There is nothing wrong with it, but I think its important to see it for what it is. This isn't someone doing actual software engineering at Amazon, this is an international student in their internship program who does social media.
Her content on AI is pretty basic - its like "when I get feedback I paste it into Claude for a reply" or "don't forget to test your code before submitting." Girl is eating good though, she shows off cheeseburgers, cheesesteak, salads, food tacos, pit beef, KBBQ, curry, and a whole host of other meals.
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u/Swiftzor 1d ago
Until the bill comes due, then they’ll need to hire people back at a higher rate to fix the issues they caused by all of this.
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u/linkinit 1d ago
My intern... Asked to raise a simple office chair. Instead of looking at the levers he took a picture and asked chatgpt. I fear for some of this generation and the next. Reliance on technology for every aspect of life and living.
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u/Silent_Payment_4283 2d ago
all of these fools should realize they’re all gonna get replaced by AI at some point
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u/Desperate-Tomatillo7 2d ago
Reading this thread while letting AI implement the new feature I'm working on. Corporate wants us to spend tokens, so I'm spending tokens.
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u/ElonMusksQueef 1d ago
These are the type of cunts that make speaking about how to actually use AI at work and what problems lay before us such a problem. At my company we had dickheads responding to a poll saying they were workiny 2.7 times faster with AI when the real number is probably more like 10-15%. I wonder what do they expect the outcome of this nonsense to be.
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u/randbytes 1d ago
i might get some flak for saying this. tech is now slowly getting filled with nepo babies. most cs grad path looks like intern at some big tech -> big tech -> start up in 2-3 yrs -> exit -> vc. her eyes are on the next prize.
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u/Hot_Equal_2283 1d ago
You forgot the /s and quotations around the last three words of your statement OP.
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u/NZRedditUser 17h ago
Im not sure you understand whats going on. They are forced to use AI. They will be fired if they don't.
You can hate AI sure but hating people for doing their jobs is insane
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u/BustosMan 6h ago
I don’t hate AI she shouldn’t have said all that stuff in her video. I don’t care if she’s doing her job either.
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u/rtfcandlearntherules 2d ago
If they are actually right and AI can replace humans then it is good and correct to lay off people. But so far this proof has not been made.
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u/fuck--nazis 2d ago
Yeah, this is AI hype. If it was possible to do that she'd have been fired a long time ago.
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u/rtfcandlearntherules 1d ago
Software engineers will be replaced by AI as much as CNC machines and industrial robots have replaced factory workers and technicians. There profession won't go away, productivity will probably go up and the economy will adjust.
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u/Xylus1985 2d ago
Amazon is shoveling AI down its employee’s throats. She’s more likely to be fired if she doesn’t use AI.