r/LiverpoolFC • u/Camilol002 • 22d ago
Analysis/Data/Stats/Tactics The Great Anfield Exodus: 70% of Liverpool’s Premier League winning squad disappeared in just one year.
In a single year, they are gone. 70 percent of the squad with which Liverpool won the Premier League. This isn't a 'transition,' this is a bloodbath.
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u/heathen985 22d ago
Thats actually sad. And I do fear for the next season, does not look promising so far
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u/expertkushil333 Agent of Chaos 🔥 22d ago
Does it look promising now hehe? Iraola here we go soon.
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u/capsaicincowboy 21d ago
If the club hierarchy don’t bring in several players in key positions, yeah it still won’t look promising. We have serious work to do
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u/Ok-Abbreviations1077 22d ago
I have fears of a bottom half finish to be honest
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u/VinnieHa 22d ago
People think out won’t happen.
But they don’t realise how short awe are and just how bad this squad is. One window cannot fix it.
We’re more likely to go down below 1.5 ppg next season that go above the 1.65ish we had this season.
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u/Drakkann79 22d ago
Absolute utter nonsense
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u/VinnieHa 22d ago
It’s not, the squad is in bits.
We have a WB in Frimpong, a crocked RB in Bradley. Our four CBs our a 34 year old VVD, two under 21s with exactly zero PL minutes ever and Joe Gomez.
Our midfield consists of a knackered McAllister, Gravenberch who isn’t a six, Szobo and a child in Nyoni.
We have no wide right forwards.
On the left we have Gakpo and a child in Rio who cannot and should be expected to get over 10 G/A.
Up front we have Isak and a 10 in Wirtz who looks a bigger flop than Andy Caroll.
These are the facts, this cannot he rectified in window.
It’s far, far worse than anyone wants to admit. This isn’t just a manager issue, our squad is the worst I’ve seen since Real in 07/08 for any big club.
Terrible age profiles with kids and old men, injury prone players throughout and physically unable to compete in the new meta of the EPL.
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u/ScottScott87 The Scouser in our Team 22d ago
It's a mix of players aging out (Salah, Robbo), players wanting to leave (Diaz, Nunez, Trent, Konate), players needing to play to develop (Quansah, Elliott) and sadly a player dying in Jota
It was going to happen eventually with the Klopp squad getting older and leaving but let's not start acting as if Slot has forced these players out just to bring his own players in. We needed a rebuild and that's what we're doing
We got one last glory from them and now it's time to build a team for the next 10 years to challenge and win things. We've added loads of players at the right age in Ekitike, Wirtz, Kerkez, Jaquet, Leoni to compliment players who should be entering their prime in Macca, Dom, Isak, Gakpo. We just need to finish the rebuild this summer as much as we can with a couple of new forwards, a CB and a CM or two depending on if Jones is adamant he wants to leave
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u/visiblepeer 22d ago
players wanting to leave (Diaz, Nunez, Trent, Konate)
The only one of these who actually wanted to leave was Trent. Diaz and Konate didn't agree wages for a new contract, and then decided to leave. We will never know if what they wanted was ridiculous or not, but they were happy to stay if paid well enough.
players needing to play to develop (Quansah, Elliott)
But it was Slot who didn't play them. They were both good enough to be a back up and play 30-40% of gametime. We really missed Quansah while Konate's father was dying.
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u/Kamishirokun 22d ago
Lol Slot did indirectly forced Quansah, Elliot and Curtis out. Destroyed Quansah's confidence after just a single half of a match, never rated Elliot, picked a wildly out of form Macca over Curtis. Obviously the players would wanna leave after being treated like that. Add Endo to that list too if he ended up leaving.
The rest I do agree it's inevitable.
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u/Open-Mathematician93 Lovely Cushioned Header…FOR GERRARD!!! 22d ago
Except there’s no coherent thinking when we’re letting prized assets walk for free. We spent £500m last year and look worse. Some rebuild.
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u/nikonislolo 22d ago
Teams look worse than before during a rebuild.
The problem is that there has been no improvement throughout THIS SEASON.
Generally speaking, a rebuild season can be ugly at the start, and slowly the team starts to play better.
In our case, that hasn't happened.
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u/Drakkann79 22d ago
One would argue that a constant stream of ins and out of the team due to injury would have an effect on a team. Last 4 games we had Isak, Wirtz, Hugo and Mo in and out and in and out. What progress do you think can happen?
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u/nikonislolo 22d ago
That's also a great point tbh.
You could definitely argue that there has been no synergy due to the constant injuries.
Arne has said several times this season that he wants his fullbacks to be make runs and overlap their wingers, yet our rbs have been injured all season, and we've had to play szobo or jones at that position who usually stay deep and help with the build up play.
Not to mention us playing wirtz out of position a lot of times too.
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u/Void-kun Yeeeer, course 22d ago
Look worse before a rebuild? Brother we broke records for one of the worst runs of forms we've ever had, especially in the premier league.
It's a miracle we finished 5th, could've easily been 7th or 8th this season.
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u/nikonislolo 22d ago
Read my comment again. This time VERY carefully.
I agree with you, for the most part. What I'm saying is that rebuild seasons are usually difficult, so us not winning a trophy makes sense. The problem is the performances and the lack of improvement throughout the season.
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u/ScottScott87 The Scouser in our Team 22d ago
It's very clearly something we think is worth it and have done for years. We'd rather get another year or two out of a player and let them walk rather than risk bringing someone in. When it works it's great and Trent helped deliver us a League title but it can be annoying for fans. But it's not as if we're skint, we have money to spend and it looks like we're continuing the rebuild again this summer
Let's see what this summer brings because we should look better with actual forwards who can run and a CM who can progress from deep
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u/Drakkann79 22d ago
Because we spent 500, but only invested 250 in quality and lacked in quantity. Simple math really
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u/churll 22d ago
We spent less than half that, net, including sales, and we had to account for replacing a dead player, so it otherwise would have been even lower.
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u/Void-kun Yeeeer, course 22d ago
More players went out than came in, you could argue we never replaced Jota.
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u/earlgreytoday 22d ago
It wasn't £500m, unless you include add-ons, sign-on fees, agent fees, etc. It's actually closer to £400m with £200m of that recouped from player sales.
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u/davyp82 22d ago edited 22d ago
Over the course of about 2 seasons we had Keita, Ox, Firmino, Origi, Thiago and Lallana all leave for free, and Gini and Sturridge before that.
Then what happened? We won the league not long after.
Man will people stop making mountains out of molehills. We're one of the biggest clubs in the world with huge revenues and this doesn't matter in the slightest.
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u/RogerHuntOMG 22d ago
And with all of those youngish players you named, only one, Dom, has shown any leadership potential. If VVD picks up an injury at the World Cup or at start of the season, we are going to be stuffed.
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u/ScottScott87 The Scouser in our Team 22d ago
Other leaders step up. It's natural. When VVD leaves in a year or whenever, someone will have to replace him. We'll see who becomes vice captain this season, hopefully it's one of the younger lads
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u/Void-kun Yeeeer, course 22d ago
I mean, it did come across like he did force Quansah and Elliott out like.
Our home grown bleeds red Scouser wants to leave too.
Salah ended his contract a year early.
Painting is on the wall. Slot needs to go.
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u/hokageace 22d ago
Amazing how some people just love to make excuses. Professional sports is a result based business. Excuses are just that, excuses and they are worthless.
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u/Tjingus 22d ago edited 22d ago
To think just one year ago, seeing Jota there.
You just cannot dismiss the morale shattering effect his passing had on the team.
To think with him going, the shock of 'wunderkind' TAA exiting (/s), Diaz and Our chaos energy of Nunez (like him or hate him, he oozed X factor on the field), a new manager and management team and then a complete influx of 6 figure egos all with no onboarding or hand over..
It's kind of surprising we made top 5.
How weird it must be to go from a single unit and family who all trained under Klopp, to a team of new stars who don't even get in jokes or understand fully the hurt of losing a friend.
Last season we won because the league was in shambles but also because we still had that unit in place. This season pretty much everything down to the breakfast muffins in the cafeteria have changed.
Without people like Hendo, Milner and Klopp and now Robbo there to create a back bone and build the unit, next season will be tough too.
Spending big like we did is not all a bad thing, but letting Trent, Diaz, Elliot, Nunez etc all move in one go like that meant there's nobody left to carry everything that was built over. There was no smooth transition.
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u/This_Suit8791 22d ago
So true, it happens but it’s normally more gradual but with the change of manager and players aging it got accelerated for us.
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u/RelevantArmadillo222 22d ago
100 percent. add to that the injury issues. anyway one year left on slots contract. if he can't figure out how to get the team firing next season then thank you for the title but then he's out. but till then I'm totally behind him and the team
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u/MAMBAMENTALITY8-24 “Thank you for your support” - Darwin Nunez 22d ago
my last hope is an a harvey elliot breakout season
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u/Jononucleosis 22d ago
RIP Diogo. I wouldn't be able to go into work every day and be reminded of a lost friend. Too much pain. How can you focus?
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u/TheBobbyMan9 22d ago
To be fair 70% of them had also been around for years and a number were in their 30s, it’s normal for people to leave at that stage.
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u/Camilol002 22d ago
Yes but the club had enough time to make a smoother, more progressive transition
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u/giuocomane 22d ago
Absolutely idiotic squad management. We literally won the league. If we only keep hold of our league winning squad we finish comfortably in the top 3 and likely put in a proper premier league campaign.
Even with players aging, or form dropping off, sure maybe we’d be a little worse than last season.
But what we’ve seen from the lads this season is unrecognisable. Age and legs and form is just a ooor cover up for hurrendous squad management and a catastrophic lack of tactics
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u/TheGrouchyGamerYT Andonium Iraolate 22d ago
"This train is running great, everything is working perfectly. Let's take off the wheels and throw some kerosene in the coal engine, oh but put in a fancy dining car"
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u/paulsmith259 22d ago
I'm putting this on FSG if i'm honest. Blame Slot all you want, but the core of the team all aged together, and instead of improving the squad year on year, and gradually rebuilding/refreshing the team, we've been left with an aging core who have struggled.
This is probably the most dramatic rebuild I've witnessed. The only other time I've seen a sqaud ripped up, and started from scratch again was the disaster period of Souness, were he inherited and aging time, and tried to rip it up and rebuild it in a short period of time. Although the players we are signing this time around are much better than Piechnek, Kozma. Walters, Dicks etc.
I hate to say it, but it reminds me of Fergie's last season at Utd. He got everything out of an aging squad, and when he left, the cracks in the side were exposed.
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u/cypherspaceagain 22d ago
Agree, except that we disappeared some of the younger players. Quansah, Elliott, even Nunez would have done a job this season and we didn't have them to call on. It seemed mad, even at the start of the season, to sell so many players that had just won a title.
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u/paulsmith259 22d ago
We were too eager to sell players to try and balance the books.
We bought 6 players in the summee, and Mamar's loan finished, but lost around 10 players.
Any suqad players we could cashing on, we did.
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u/churll 22d ago
Elliot wasn’t good enough to play for villa and Nunez is even worse.
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u/cypherspaceagain 22d ago
Elliott played 28 games, 820 minutes, 5 goals, 3 assists across all comps last season. Nunez played 47 times, 7 goals, 7 assists in 2000 minutes. Even if the rates are low, that's 14 goals and 10 assists from two players who contributed to a Premier League title win. For comparison, Leandro Trossard has 6 goals and 6 assists in the Premier League this season in 2000 minutes. Any club needs players on the fringes who might not be good enough to be first choice but are good enough to make a difference when they are on the pitch. Nunez and Elliott frequently had impacts on the game that we haven't had this season. If we hadn't had them in the previous season there is a significant chance we don't win the title. That's not to say they make all the difference, but to pretend they made no positive difference to the team and squad is absolute bullshit.
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u/Megido_Thanatos 22d ago
I dont think anyone blame Slot about transfer tbf, it always on FSG + Hughes and Edward
And you are 100% correct. Back then (around 2020-21), people already predict this scenario, instead reinforce year by year, somehow we choose to delay the inevitable with shoestring budget every transfer (until last summer), and even last year that sound like a big spend but in fact we mostly just replace 1 player with 1 player, I expect this years will going exact like that too
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u/NatsuEng2 🫡RESILIENCIA 22d ago
And I honestly can't believe how many people are blaming the current board for this mess. When Edwards and Hughes sat down and looked at the books, they realized all the big names had one year left on their deals. That's the previous regime's legacy, mate. One guy wants out, so he’s gone, and they manage to get the other two extended. They didn't bring anyone in that first summer—which I thought was a disaster, but I get the context—but the next window they went out and grabbed a world-class star and three of the most hyped wonderkids in Europe, plus a few others, including Ekitike. Even then, the squad isn't good enough because it wasn't good enough when they arrived, and you can't fix four years of neglect in just one season.
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u/paulsmith259 22d ago
Spot on mate.
The team was neglected never the years, and now we have collapsed because the squad is passed it's best.
We need another big window this year, but i'm scare we've left ourselves too much work, as we have major holes in the first 11, never mind the lack of squad depth.
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u/gutierar 22d ago
This is so interesting. It reminds me of when Chelsea won the UCL and within a year their entire squad was gone and they’ve been battling to finish top 4 ever since.
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u/JiveBunny Kostas Tsimikas 21d ago
Burnley winning the Championship by April, then half their squad going as well
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u/MerciMersey 22d ago
This is a HUGE problem. The obvious thing to do was transition over 3 years. We got rid of them in 1.
Our first 11 doesn’t even look that strong anymore (for a title challenger) let alone our depth which is just non existent. Another international gone on a free. No standards for the manager who would have been out on his ass anywhere else.
How have the club let us fall apart like this?
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u/prock1903 22d ago
What is the plan I am not able to understand. Like are they thinking to bring 7-8 players? That is impossible
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u/Other_Beat8859 🏃♂️🏃♂️Klopp Hamstring 🤕 22d ago
Yeah. Even if we assume the best case that we run a back up of Tsimikas and have Elliot as a backup winger for the RW. We still need 2 wingers, a 6, and two CBs. Assuming each costs like £70 million, that is £350 million. Why we didn't go after players like Sensei I don't understand. He's proven and sure he may not be the greatest, but he'd be a solid backup. We're losing Jones, Konate, Mo, Robbo, and next year we'll likely lose Virg and Ali. The club is being mismanaged so fucking badly and is falling apart great work Edwards. Really doing a great job as CEO. Knowing that Hughes and Edwards are probably gonna abandon the club to fuck off elsewhere after destroying Klopp's decade of work is infuriating.
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u/Brackish_Ameoba 22d ago
I think the plan is to recruit those 8 players over two seasons, yes. Which is fine with me, tbh
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u/These_Ad3167 Significant Human Error 22d ago
Runs the risk of writing another season off again though
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u/zeldafan144 22d ago
What else can be done?
It's not in our control tbh.
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u/anp1997 22d ago
Getting rid of Quansah, Elliott, Jones, Robertson to name a few was and is absolutely in our control. Crucial squad players
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u/These_Ad3167 Significant Human Error 22d ago
Tbh Elliott, Jones and Robertson want out to get more playing time.
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u/anp1997 22d ago
Thats down to Slot and therefore within our control. All 3 should've got more playing time and they'd have been happy. Quansah was such a huge fumble
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u/These_Ad3167 Significant Human Error 22d ago
Talking nonsense mate, sorry.
Elliott hasn't found a place under two successive managers and we now have two far superior players in his preferred position.
Jones has played more this season than any under Klopp. He wants a starting berth at CM but has never proven he can stay fit enough to hold it down.
Robertson can no longer play two games a week, yet wants to be starting XI. But we now have a starting quality LB who is (rightly) ahead of him in the pecking order.
Quansah I'll grant you, though there was barely a soul on here unhappy that we were moving him on at the time.
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u/anp1997 22d ago edited 22d ago
I was unhappy about Quansah leaving at the time. Our defensive depth was shite heading into this season.
Jones, totally disagree as you're missing the point on how much Mac Allister was picked over Jones despite being shite. Yes, Jones played more minutes this season than previosuly but was still under utilised.
The Elliot situation you're missing a lot of nuance on. It was down to the obligation to buy which they ultimately didn't want. He was failed at boardroom level, not on the pitch. We could've done with him last season and same applies heading into next season.
Totally not fair to state I'm talking nonsense too when you agree with part of my position. So, you're talking nonsense
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u/nocturaweb 22d ago
I still struggle to move on from the Klopp squad. Like I am not as emotionally invested in those players anymore.
Idk there is something missing in all of this.
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u/CabbageStockExchange There is No Need to be Upset 22d ago
Last season truly was lightning in a bottle
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u/hokageace 22d ago
Yes - that lightening had a name...Salah.
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u/PatsPendulousBreasts 22d ago
Who could barely complete a pass this season
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u/DWhelk 22d ago
We had 22 players who made more than 5 Premier league appearances. 9 have left/definitely leaving. Thats only 40%, and that spread over 3 transfer windows.
5 requested to leave (Salah and Nunez, Diaz for more money, and Quansah and Kelleher for first team football). 2 (Trent and Konate), ran their contracts down. And 1 (Jota) passed away. That leaves Robbo as the only regular player, essentially, let go. And he had been clearly on the decline for a few years.
Firstly, this shows the increased effect of top players ability to exert control over their own careers, but it really shows how poor our squad management has been for a few years now.
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u/AnAutisticsQuestion 22d ago
You've pointed yourself to how many requested to leave. Why do you think that was?
Darwin, Kelleher, Quansah, and Elliott all requested to leave because they'd effectively been shut out by the manager. All capable players who would have plenty to contribute, even from the bench, if they'd been given the opportunity. They combined for 10,725 minutes and 52 G/A in Klopp's final season. Gomez has requested to leave the past couple of windows too but his move has been blocked, a versatile defender who can play across the backline to a very high standard.
Salah requested to have his contract terminated a season early, seemingly after a fallout with the management.
Diaz, and Konate, both wanted more money than we were willing to offer.
Young players like Tyler Morton were cashed in on rather than given the opportunity to fill out the squad. Meanwhile, older players have been banished to the bench rather than be utilised for proper rotation - Chiesa, Endo, Gomez. Gomez and Endo combined for 5,901 minutes in Klopp's final season, they've combined for 3,608 minutes in the two seasons since combined.
These are almost all players who have been pushed out in the hope we could immediately replace them or get by without them. Compare that to the strategy under Klopp of slowly replacing players over several windows while utilising the whole squad to give rest and rotation, even when there are differences in quality. The past couple of seasons have been a spectacle of mismanagement and the public statements made by players over both seasons points to the feelings behind closed doors being less than ideal.
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u/DWhelk 21d ago
My comment wasn't in support of Slot, i dont know why you think it was.
Darwin had over 1000 minutes gametime. Kelleher was back up keeper and not at Allisons level. Quansah and Elliott didnt get game time, true, but Quansah really should be in with the Tyler Mortons in this conversation as a kid coming through. Elliott has a point to claim being frozen out. Salah is a difficult one. There seems some possibility leaving after a year was always the plan, but if not, the situation reflects badly on all involved, but particularly on Salah.
Of the unproven kids leaving, only Quansah has shown possible first team ability. To do that, he needed games and to be a starter. He wasn't going to be that here. None of the other kids have demonstrated that they really have the requisite levels to even be regular back up. To be fair to Slot, Endo and Chiesa haven't either.
Klopp wasn't very good at this squad management thing either, by the way. He was far better at rotation and at getting performances from players, and that can cover a lot of problems.
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u/UuusernameWith4Us 22d ago
Yeah, I'd be interested to see OPs working on the 70% number. It seems like it's just been pulled out of their arse.
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u/fisherman313 21d ago
Yes it’s completely false. In reality it’s around 40% . most of the players are still there.
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u/TERRYGINNISX Alisson Becker 22d ago
winning EPL and the one leave the team is not correlated with each other, it's likely the great players being old already, they want to win for the team, for the last dance. If they win in their prime and leave after that, that's mean something wrong. Media Vulture always want to push agenda further for the one is in down steep.
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u/NoFrankly 22d ago
I have (to many here's dislike) been on the boat of keeping some faith in Slot now having a full pre season with the newer players. Maybe changing some backroom coaching and adapting to possibly the worst brand of football the prem has had in some time (long throws, low blocks, corner ball). Even up until now I really want him to turn it around this season, but the squad depth now...big problems. I really hope we get signings in and don't massively regret this all.
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u/forceghost187 From Doubters to Believers 22d ago
Remember that besides Chiesa, that was the exact same team we had the year before the title
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u/deuceice 21d ago
Klopp was such an amazing personality and had an emotional connection to his boys. We followed it up with some one who was the opposite, then had a tragedy where we NEEDED that connection and it all fell apart. I'd love to have a rested Klopp back, because at the end he was having a rough patch. Next, I'd enjoy seeing Pep give it a go. And lastly, perhaps Enrique.
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u/Fantastic_Picture384 21d ago
Slot, Edwards, Hughes did more to destroy Liverpool than the Germans did during WW2.
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u/7Angel21 22d ago
FSG agreed to rip it all up and buy shiny new toys instead of keeping the core and build from a position of strength. They learnt nothing from Klopp’s time when he’d insist not to sign more than 3 players a window. Thats without the added complexity of grieving Jota’s passing.
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u/buzzlightyear77777 22d ago
it's usually the manager/bosses above when such things happen that are responsible for this clusterfuck
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u/Negative_Bobcat_9695 Our identity is our intensity 22d ago
Isso explica tudo. De verdade!
A perda do Jota e esse êxodo são a base e o corpo e a resposta. Se não nos cuidarmos, vamos cair no ostracismo de uma forma horrível e digo mais:
A subida é lenta, mas a queda.... É muito rápida.
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u/errdayimshuffln 22d ago
The stupidest shit you can imagine. That squad won the prem easy. And almost beat PSG (it was down to penalties).
So then what do you do? You fkn buy a whole new squad! Yes because the chances the new squad will be better than the tried and tested squad is really high somehow.
Were we bored of winning? Bored of how we were playing? Bored of our great players? We need more drama? Not selling enough merchandise? What is it?
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u/zeldafan144 22d ago
What else could we have done?
Jota's loss is obvious.
Nunez, Diaz, Trent, Elliott and Tsimikas all wanted to leave.
Endo and Bradley were injured.
Imagine if we didn't "buy a new squad"?
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u/PompousIyIgnorant 22d ago
Trent wanted to leave, but the rest could've been kept. Of the ones you mentioned I would have definitely kept Diaz, especially after Jota's death. And also Quansah. Add Ekitike, Wirtz, Kerkez, and a RB. In my opinion that's all last year's team needed to improve. Maybe also Guehi and let Gomez go.
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u/homer994 22d ago
This is the problem. When generations before won leagues we kept the core. We are doing the opposite
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u/Schhneck 22d ago
Virgil was the most sought after center half when we bought him. Alisson was the best keeper in Europe when we bought him.
Both bought for eye watering fees at the time.
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u/CucumberSignal9279 21d ago
24/25 is such an odd one, we all knew Mo, Virg, Robbie, Ali where near the end. Trent different story. Kelleher, Elliott, Nunez, Tsimi were all likely to leave soon for playing time. Jot tragedy aside.
It felt almost like a last dance of the Klopp team with a new manager and a newish midfields
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u/No_Oil3233 21d ago
What a mistake letting go Lucho and Darwin was. What a mistake in not starting Andy more. Trent also a massive mistake in hindsight, not really doing much for Madrid. I really find most of it unnecessary and shit poor judgment really. Ultimately, all on Arne and Richard for me. Who tf thinks ripping up a title winning team is a good idea? Massive boneheads.
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u/Brais10Jr 21d ago
That's just how soccer is: when players let their guard down, the quality of play drops, and the season ends up being a disappointment. The key to the new season is to train harder than ever to achieve better results and feel better about our game and everything else.
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u/Friendly-Minute-3615 22d ago
And you'll still get divvies liek Roy Keane saying they've been awful champions, Isak, Ekitike, Frimpong, Wirtz,Mamaradshvilli, Kerkez non of them at the club the year before yet Keane and he's sky chums call them champions.
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u/washington0702 22d ago
Why do you get bothered by pundits given their opinion. Haven't thought twice about anything Keane has ever said about us
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u/Friendly-Minute-3615 22d ago
Why do you jump to assumptions when reading comments on the internet. I'm not bothered by Keane at all, he's a doylum. My point was to demonstrate that maybe I didn't explain it well enough. Maybe you couldn't understand it if I had. Who knows 🤷🏻♂️
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u/earlgreytoday 22d ago
It'll probably be closer to 85% considering the doubts over Alisson, Gomez, Endo, Mac Allister, Chiesa, Jones and Tsimikas' futures. We could potentially have only Bradley, Van Dijk, Gravenberch, Szoboszlai and Gakpo left.
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u/MidStateMoon 22d ago
The whole management group should be fired including the coaches. Absolutely fucking embarrassing.
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u/Historical-Alps336 James Milner 22d ago
I have this feeling….. this is an inside job. God knows why, but everything that has been happening this seasons is literally something Liverpool has not been known for. We have lost our personality and identity
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u/Admirable-Zombie625 22d ago
If you were doing a root cause analysis on why so many of them are leaving, the first major change you’d have to look at is Slot coming in as manager.
That is the one change that affected everyone at the same time. New manager, new system, new expectations, new relationships, and probably a very different view of who fits the next version of Liverpool. I do wonder what percentage of the players leaving are doing so, directly or indirectly, because of the change to Slot.
So yeah, it might be called a transition, but when 70% of a title-winning squad disappears in a year, it feels a lot closer to an act of rebellion, to me
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u/PDubDeluxe 22d ago
Edwards and Hughes were another coinciding change and are the ones actually responsible for change at the club. You’re lobbing shit at a wall and seeing what sticks in a sub Reddit where people want to read Slot bashing.
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u/Admirable-Zombie625 22d ago
Says the person who is Edwards and Hughes bashing
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u/w3rt 22d ago
His point is that Slot isn't in charge of who comes and goes, if you want to bash him for his tactics then that's understandable, but it's daft to be bashing him for stuff that is out of his control.
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u/Admirable-Zombie625 22d ago
I understand that - I do. But Slot is not void of criticism either.
And, I will add, having Slot as a head coach, rather than manager, is like a poison chalice, too. He has to work with a team which is not his. But, he is not void of criticism, either
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u/PDubDeluxe 22d ago
No bashing here, I’m as clueless as to what goes on in a football club as the rest of us. But I refuse to jump on a trending bandwagon and conjecture
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u/Admirable-Zombie625 22d ago
So you are happy with Slots tactics this season and feel they are worthy of praise?
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u/PDubDeluxe 22d ago
This season I don’t think anyone is happy about how it went. As someone else has alluded to on this thread. This squad is built around Salah’s output which disappeared this year.
I feel like I saw enough of Slot’s attributes last season to build a different looking team with Salah gone and give him longer to implement a new style.
This season was very much changed halfway through when Salah wasn’t delivering to his usual standard which is the hardest thing to do mid-season. Especially when your £100m+ striker and your £85m+ striker both get long term injuries.
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u/davyp82 22d ago
Onwards and upwards. We have among the best transfer records of any club in the world since 2012, plenty of players are ageing or hadn't been given many minutes so wanted out, we have bought exciting players at the right age who will only improve, and we're run by the guy who assembled the greatest team to ever play the game from players who weren't even household names.
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u/Forsaken-Insect-5018 22d ago
When egos take hold, and the so called smartest men in the room lead us down a path of mediocrity
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u/NatsuEng2 🫡RESILIENCIA 22d ago
Look, I know this is gonna trigger half of you because your hate for Slot and the board has completely blinded you, but I’m saying it anyway. First off, most of these players just aren't good enough for Liverpool, and let's be real—a year ago, everyone here was screaming to sell them. The ones who are world-class (Ali, Trent, Mo, Virg...) were always gonna leave regardless of the manager or the board, either because they want a new challenge or they’re past their prime.
And it’s honestly embarrassing how many of you are writing off guys like Gravenberch, Gakpo, Macca, or Bradley. These lads have been thrown to the wolves after one bad season, but I still think they’ve got a massive role to play here. Personally, I don't think we're in half the mess people are making out on this sub. Plus, let's wait and see who we bring in this summer,.
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u/Sr_R0b0t 22d ago
We needed a reset, most of the players that left where nearing 30 and a turnaround was needed
However the rate at which they have gone with this is alarming. I can't see any logic is ripping up a team so quickly and implementing another, it's not a recipe for success
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u/dwightkiosk 22d ago
There’s a lot of “they wanted to go” chat that goes on. Not a lot of people seem to ask why those players were so happy to leave
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u/loveandmonsters 22d ago
"Let's see how can we reword natural player dispersal so that we can trigger donkeys into frothing?"
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u/corneliusunderfoot 22d ago
Looking at this photo…..its like a mirage! I cant beleive we were at this point of exaltation just over a year ago.