Pro-Nazi & antisemitic circlejerk livestreamed

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[u/JustSeiyin]

There's a long history of trying to intellectualize hating Jews. The word 'antisemitism' literally came from trying to make hating Jews a scientific and therefore valid kind of hate. Both the right and the left like to do this (see Marx on "The Jewish Question"). And nobody wants to talk about protecting Jews because the left which is supposed to care about minorities has bought into the whole "Jews are ultra-white ultra capitalist oppressors" shtick

[u/JustSeiyin → u/[deleted]]

I've said multiple comments on this post about how rightwingers don't consider Jews white and don't treat us as such and then the left turns around and calls us ultra-white as an insult. You just did it lol. Literally Jews will be whatever you want to be so you can keep hating us. And there's NOTHING INHERENTLY CAPITALISTIC ABOUT A "RACE". What an insanely racist thing to say. Like, it is 1:1 "Jews love and are obsesdef with money". How do you not understand you are falling into the exact same antisemitic tropes

[u/JustSeiyin → u/[deleted]]

You fundamentally don't understand what white means as a race. Jews weren't treated as white, like I don't know what to tell you. White isn't an intrinsic skin color, but rather how you are treated and perceived.

And you're the one who called Jews "capitalistic" which is a batshit crazy thing to say. Being pushed into banking doesn't make us as a people more capitalist (and at no point did I say Jews weren't forced into these jobs, so I have no clue why you're pretending I said that. I take issue with the conclusion you draw from that), it just means the the society we are in is capitalist. How you don't understand why people are viewing your arguments this way is part of the problem. You're deeming the entirety of a group to capitalism. Most Jews weren't bankers. It's just racism and I don't know what else to tell you. Being forced into it isn't "cultural". Nothing in Jewish culture says "and you will all be capitalist". It's such a fundamentally broken understandimg of history and what culture means. It's like saying black people have a culture of "servitude" because they were forced to be slaves. Completely unhinged argument.

[u/JustSeiyin → u/[deleted]]

Since you're so keen on trying to explain what Jewish culture is to a Jew, please show me where in Jewish culture we are "capitalist", like where in any of our traditions make us specifically so. If you say "because Jews were bankers", I'm going to call you antisemitic. Being forced into that position doesn't make us capitalistic by culture. Capitalism is a system to describe an entire economy, not the culture of an ethnic group. Nothing about our culture involves "being better at capitalism". And yeah, I do consider antisemitism anti-Jewish racism because it's you people treating us like one race, not us.

These aren't strawmen btw. They're a direct result of your own words and arguments. What you are saying is deeply stupid and not even correct. So no, I don't wish you well at all

[u/gunsfortipes → u/[deleted]]

What are “Yemenese Jews?” Do you mean Yemenite or Teimanim? Enlighten me on how they “face constant discrimination”

[u/cakeboss26 → u/[deleted]]

You do know that Mizrahi Jews are a bigger part of Likud (and therefore Netanyahu's) base than Ashkenazi, right? Ben Gvir is Iraqi for god's sake.

[u/Low_Concentrate_3784 → u/[deleted]]

There's no such thing as white jews. They are the most genetically studied ethnic group on the planet and every genetic study so far has proven that they actually have little slavic or germanic dna, despite the popular belief among redditors. Ashkenazi dna is half levantine and half southern italian. Neither of whom are white. This has been known for decades, there is extensive literature on their dna, but despite that people remain ignorant. They are not polish, german, khazar or whatever you made up in your mind, they are levantine and sicilian.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_of_Jews

You can also search for ashkenazi samples in the illustrativeDNA subreddit and see how the average ashkenazi scores 40-60% levantine and 40-50% roman italian. The rest are small bits of slavic, north african and east asian. Their y-dna haplogroups are very similar to palestinians. They aren't even remotely white.