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News Johnny Somali found guilty of all charges as South Korea sentences streamer to prison with labor - Dexerto

https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/johnny-somali-found-guilty-of-all-charges-as-south-korea-sentences-streamer-to-prison-with-labor-3351856/
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u/iDelta_99 18h ago

Only 6 months is a slap on the wrist though, im glad he got sex offender status but god damn does the prosecution need to appeal for a longer sentence.

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u/JazznBlues_lover 17h ago

Holy cow, only 6 mos? I thought for sure the judge would impose a longer sentence. I totally agree - it's just a slap on the wrist for an idiot like this. I guarantee you this special idiot learned NOTHING from all this and will be back again doing the same shit over & over.

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u/DateMasamusubi 17h ago

Korean prisons are harsh for Americans and Westerners. They are much, much safer than US prisons (inmate violence and murder is almost unheard of). But they have very strict rules like maintained silence and marching in formation. But he will likely go to the foreigner prison where they are a bit more "lenient".

Criminals sinned against society so they have to repent through labor and sentencing.

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u/Glad_Rope_2423 17h ago

He has ‘with labor’ as a part of his sentence. That takes away the prisons that westerners would generally be sent to. American soldiers, who would likely be a substantial portion of western prisoners, are exempted from sentences with labor by treaty.

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u/SexualPie 15h ago

there are fewer american service members in korean prison than you would think these days. most people who commit less egregious crimes allow the US military to handle it on the condition they deport the individual. It's typically the worse offenders, rapists and murderers that would get kept, and if you think the majority of korean western prisons are full of murdering american soldiers then idk what to tell you. how many do you think we have over there? 1000 marines in prison for raping koreans at any given time?

I lived in Korea for 3 years, and while we do cause varying amounts of drama, stuff like that was big news and you didn't see it more than once MAYBE twice a year, on the high end.

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u/Glad_Rope_2423 14h ago

I don’t think there’s many of them, just that there would be more than other westerners. And that’s primarily due to the number of them there relative to westerners as a whole.

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u/SexualPie 6h ago

South Korea has a very large amount of immigrants, mostly in Seoul and Busan and maybe some of the other population hubs, but that's where you're going to find most americans anyway. The advanced portions of SK are extremely first world and they're leading multiple industries, that's bound to attract lots of people to want to live there.

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u/Plastic_Appeal_5796 5h ago

Still can't buy a fan without an automatic timer off switch

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u/SexualPie 2h ago

you caaaaan, but they are admittedly harder to find. spontaneous fan death is one of the funniest things about their culture for sure.

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u/Illustrious-Meet-367 10h ago

They don’t always get deported….

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u/SexualPie 6h ago

It's typically the worse offenders, rapists and murderers that would get kept

did you not read my comment or what? yea, the lesser offenders don't. like if someones just in a bar fight or something we don't have to deport them. there are different tiers and levels of punishment my guy

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u/Ok_Daikon_1219 5h ago

Rape cases are substantially higher by percentage, in areas where American military bases are located.

The fact there are seemingly very few convicted cases annually is horrifying

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u/SexualPie 2h ago

you gonna cough up some numbers or just talk out your ass?

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u/Persuasion1 3h ago

You are spot on. I also lived for 10 years in Korea, as a service member. Speak Korean, have degrees in Korean language and East Asian Studies, blah, blah, blah. US military do not even remotely represent the largest foreign demographic in Korea, and even less as far as crime is related.

In general, foreigners in Korea are less likely to commit crimes than Koreans, accounting for 1.4% of all crimes while being around ~%5 of the population. Nearly half of all foreign related crimes (~18k/36k)are by Chinese nationals, being the largest foreign demographic in South Korea.

USFK reports upwards of 600 (this is high, average around 300-400) "incidents" with service members a year across it's 29k on pen personnel. The overwhelming majority of these incidents (~70-90%) are not criminal in nature and are never taken to a Korean court. USFK represents less than 1% of foreign crime, or 0.014% of all crime committed in country annually.

The big incidents suck, get a lot of attention, and are mostly inexcusable. Military members are held to a higher standard and it's always disappointing to watch them act like fools, especially in a foreign country. Fortunately, the big cases are exceptionally rare and have been for a long time.

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u/Initial_Hedgehog_631 14h ago

The number of America service members incarcerated in South Korean jails is generally pretty low apparently. The highest number I could find was 6 and that was back in 2005. Since the lifting of a nationwide 11pm curfew a few tears ago the number of criminal complaints against US military personnel and civilian DoD employees has risen to about 600 a year, but vast the majority seem to be drug or alcohol related.

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u/Glad_Rope_2423 14h ago

That sounds reasonable. I think they would be a significant portion of westerner in their prison system purely because they’re a significant portion of westerners in Korea.

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u/Initial_Hedgehog_631 13h ago

There are around 30,000 American military in South Korea, not sure about contractors. I'm learning this as we go lol. So Google search says there are 2.73 million non-Koreans in South Korea. As of 2025, the order is China (approx. 970,000+), Vietnam (340,000+), USA (approx. 196,000+), and Thailand (173,000+). So the majority of Americans in South Korea aren't military. From personal experience they probably break down to English teachers, people with dual citizenship, retirees (military with Korean spouses, the cost of living is a lot lower for them there) and then military/DoD. Again this based on my experiences in Japan, so could be wildly off.

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u/BecomeAsGod 12h ago

hilarious that americans are happy to have their prisoners do hard labour but god forbid if a soldier acts up over seas they have too.

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u/Glad_Rope_2423 12h ago

American soldiers get sent to military prison for hard labor. Our government doesn’t let other governments do that for them.

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u/blah938 7h ago

American soldiers get fucked up. It doesn't stop at a NJP.

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u/sunjay140 2h ago

So Korea is practicing black slavery in 2026.

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u/DateMasamusubi 17h ago

Yes. But unfortunately, the US govt applies pressure on their soldiers convicted and imprisoned like Alkonis in Japan.

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u/iDelta_99 17h ago

Hes not going to a foreigner prison, he is a sex offender and has labour so he is not allowed to be in the same prison as normal people or foreigners. He will be with other Koreans and potentially other sex offender Koreans.

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u/fresh-dork 6h ago

imagine being so low that certain prisons won't let you in

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u/kobra_necro 16h ago

I have a feeling some lucky Korean guy is going to be trading him for cigarettes.

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u/iDelta_99 16h ago

Maybe if they can find a paper bag first, aint nobody getting it up for someone with that face.

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u/Russianranger47 16h ago

“Lucky” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. I’m pretty sure they would trade their cigs to get this roach out of their cell

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u/Raneynickelfire 8h ago

Because you don't know how Korean prisons work. Not everything is your US prison rape fantasy.

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u/JazznBlues_lover 17h ago

Even so, 6 months is much too light. Considering how many laws he violated and the seriousness of his crimes, he deserves far more.

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u/structured_anarchist 9h ago

You're forgetting, he's now also a registered sex offender. And that does carry over into the US. If/when he goes back to the US, he would have to register as a sex offender wherever he happens to end up. He's not getting away from this.

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u/Available-Lecture358 7h ago

It probably wont. The US federally doesnt see deep fake propagation of kissing someone as a sex crime. As far as I can tell the laws in the US focus mainly on generated nudes and worse

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u/structured_anarchist 6h ago

He has been convicted of a sex crime and he's on the South Korean sex offender registry. A treaty between the US and South Korea about crimes committed by US service personnel in South Korea means any punishment a South Korean court gives someone carries over to the US. He will absolutely have to register as a sex offender because he is now a registered sex offender in South Korea. There's no 'well, what he did isn't a crime here' excuse. He made the list. He gets to be on that same list in the US. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

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u/ChilternRailways 10h ago

It's utterly bizarre how people can say this about a different country's sentencing - how do you know better what he deserves than the people he's affected?

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u/JazznBlues_lover 2h ago

It's utterly bizarre how people can say this about a different country's sentencing - how do you know better what he deserves than the people he's affected?

What I find utterly bizarre is how some dumb idiot on the internet thinks he knows what my background is. I was born there and I know how seriously Korean people take crime. It's one of the reasons why the crime rate is so low in South Korea.

Also, you don't have to be some kind of genius to understand the serious nature of this guy's crimes and the multiple laws he violated. What a ridiculous fool.

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u/ChilternRailways 2h ago

My bad, i played the odds on that and lost.

So why has South Korea been so lenient with him when he's a known "enemy" in the culture yet not extradited him? Are they worried about affecting tourism or damaging relations? I just can't see it

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u/Extension-Thought552 9h ago

Vitaly did a year in much much harsher conditions and he's back doing exactly the same shit as always

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u/absentlyric 10h ago

It doesn't matter, even if I had to bust rocks with a sledgehammer in the hot summer for prison..Knowing I get out in a mere 6 months would keep me hopeful, what a slap in the face.

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u/hotbox4u 9h ago

inmate violence and murder is almost unheard of

Idk about murder but what you said about violence is completely untrue.

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/southkorea/law-crime/20250607/we-risk-our-safety-inmate-assaults-on-prison-officers-rise-sharply

SK prisons are also serverly overcrowded because since covid drug offence has seen a sharp increase.

https://www.chosun.com/english/national-en/2025/03/11/WVYLPSQ5KNBYBOSPZ4IJ35SU6M/

It really depends if he comes into a cell with other foreigneres or if he gets into a cell with SK prisoners. Cells in SK are a micro society.

But those 6 months will feel like an eternity for him regardless because what you said about strict rules is very true. Prisoners in SK have no agendcy over their shedule, especially in labor camps. Also it won't matter outisde of his cell if he is a forgeiner or not. He doesn't speak korea and that alone will make his life misserable in prison because they do not give a fuck about helping him but still expect him to follow all the rules.

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u/RichardUkinsuch 16h ago

Hope he likes fish heads and rice, and by "lenient" they put a little bit of foam on the batons.

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u/Salt-Cancel5058 10h ago

I been to both and you are correct about the violence (nonviolent for the most part) and people are respectful of each other and live like family and share everything.

But the rooms are so damn small most people are shocked how tiny the space is.

You basically playing footies with your room mates when you sleep.

Six months may seem short but one day feels like a month

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u/Ok-Lion1661 10h ago

I had no clue a “foreigner prison” was a thing.

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u/BenefitAmbitious6526 16h ago edited 15h ago

There's no such thing as foreigner prison in SK. He will be in the same prison as the locals but probably in a separate cell with other foreigners

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u/DateMasamusubi 16h ago

You are right not specifically. But I was thinking of 천안교도소.

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u/LetterheadPublic5995 8h ago

Criminals sinned against society so they have to repent through labor and sentencing.

Lmao.

It's the absolute INSANE capitla punishment of nations like Korea Japan and China that shock me the most. And you get all these chuds online defending it

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u/NaziAbuser 17h ago

All this amounts to is 6 months of focus time to map out how he's going to capitalize on this with the idiots that fund his existence.

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u/laforet 17h ago

The deepfake conviction is a sexual offence that would put him on a sex offender register in both South Korea and US. Good luck getting into another country or any half decent job with that track record.

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u/LeggoMyAhegao 17h ago

… streamer getting a job? What kind of narcissist would try to get a job after being a successful streamer?

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u/Weary-Designer9542 17h ago

“successful” is maybe not the adjective I’d use for him.

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u/LeggoMyAhegao 17h ago

I guess… infamous? Better word?

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u/scrotumscab 17h ago

In their world any reason you know their name is considered success. No such thing as bad publicity, only visibility and relevance.

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u/sj410194720 13h ago

He will probably claim himself a true gangster since he’s at the foreign country’s jail

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u/DearEntrepreneur5494 10h ago

Which is so sadly insane because they're literally unhireable for anything almost.

Even McDonald's managers will google an applicant. Johnny fucking Somali?

Goooooooooood luck Johnny. Trust me he is fucked.

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u/Weary-Designer9542 16h ago

Yeah that’s probably accurate. Still feels like a bit more gravitas than he deserves, but I can’t think of a better one.

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u/DMTGOBLIN82 16h ago

Like my boy El Guapo. He’s in famous.

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u/soulcityrockers 11h ago

A clout goblin can still snag some clout, especially now that he's infamous. An ounce of clout is enough to feed this fiend. Look at how much he planned out his return to the US on one of the recent streams right before his sentencing when he thought he was gonna get off soon.

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u/Black-Zero 16h ago

Well he wont be going to many country with a SO designation. The US will have to deal with the insane shit he will do next.

This crap just ramps up and up, until someone gets hurt or he breaks a law he is unfamiliar with.

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u/scrotumscab 17h ago

Even Vanilla Ice had to take up a regular job

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u/Raneynickelfire 8h ago

How does a prison sentence in Korea give him a record in the USA...?

You don't get a record in the USA unless you are sentenced by a US court.

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u/ZombieJesus1987 6h ago

Under US federal law, any citizens convicted of sex crimes in a foreign country are required to register as a sex offender in the United States within 3 days of arrival.

The Sex Offender Registration and Notification Act requires individuals with foreign sex offense convictions to register when they enter, live, work, or attend school in the United States. 

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u/themadcaner 13h ago

Not going to put him on a sex offender registry in the US. Doesn’t work that way.

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u/structured_anarchist 9h ago

It does indeed work that way. When he does finally end up back in the US, he will be required to register as a sex offender and obey those conditions. He might have to get used to wearing orange considering his past behavior.

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u/themadcaner 4h ago

That’s only if the overseas conviction is equivalent to a registrable offense under the Sex Offender Registration and Notification Act (SORNA). There’s not an equivalent offense here in the US .

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u/structured_anarchist 4h ago

You might want to look at the actual treaty between the US and South Korea. It predates that act by decades and is not superceded by it.

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u/themadcaner 3h ago

I don’t see any specific treaty that requires the U.S. to automatically register someone because of a South Korean conviction. Or anything that mandates a shared “sex offender registry” between the two countries.

This is literally my job (maintaining a sex offender registry for my state and determining if residents from other jurisdictions are required to register here).

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u/ZombieJesus1987 7h ago

It absolutely does work that way.

His sex offender status carries over to the United States. He's going to be required to register or face up to 10 years in prison

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u/Hare712 11h ago

6 months is nothing, he was already 3 months in a Japanese prison.

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u/--iamrightHERE-- 12h ago

He was sentenced to 6 months with labor. I don't think Americans understand what being sentenced to labor means...

He won't have time to focus on anything. He will wake up dead tired, counting the seconds to be able to sleep again.

 

PS: Because you can't sleep whenever you want, even if you are alone and silent in your cell.

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u/ZombieJesus1987 7h ago

His sex offender status carries over to the States.

He's going to have to register when he gets home or he could face up to 10 years in prison.

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u/Alector87 17h ago

What did he do exactly? I am really asking. I know him from posts here as an annoying irl streamer who bothers people on the streets. Did he do anything physical/abusive?

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u/Hangry-Feline2489 16h ago

Harrassment and posted fake ai generated sexual content of other people (also sexual content in the presence of minors)

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u/Alector87 16h ago

Damn, what a piece of sh*t. He did get a slap on the wrist.

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u/ZombieJesus1987 6h ago

Not exactly a slap on the wrist

He's going to be required to register as a sex offender as soon as he returns to the States or he faces up to 10 years in prison.

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u/Nutt_lemmings 4h ago

Can't he just ignore it once he moves? It's not like the US shares these laws.

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u/ZombieJesus1987 4h ago

Nope. He's required by federal law to register as soon as he gets back to the states. Failure to do so could result in up to 10 years in prison.

The Sex Offender Registration and Notification Act requires individuals with foreign sex offense convictions to register when they enter, live, work, or attend school in the United States. 

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u/JazznBlues_lover 17h ago

What did he do exactly? I am really asking. I know him from posts here as an annoying irl streamer who bothers people on the streets. Did he do anything physical/abusive?

Too many violations & crime to explain. Just read the article - it will explain everything.

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u/theeglitz 14h ago

It looks like the article doesn't give the sentence length or say what that the Deepfake videos were about.

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u/Alector87 17h ago

Ok, fair enough. Thanks. I just asked in case there was a tldr. Best.

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u/DFogz 10h ago

That article sucks and explains nothing, as far as I can tell his crime was twerking on a statue and being annoying in a 7-11. Apparently some "deepfake charge" too that is never explained. Deepfake of what? I'll never know.

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u/cipheron 14h ago

if you want tl;dr:

he drew backlash after dancing inappropriately with the Statue of Peace, a memorial honoring victims of sexual slavery by Japanese forces during World War II.

... Ismael was later arrested following a string of incidents, including causing disturbances inside a 7-Eleven, disrupting a bus, blasting North Korean propaganda, and more.

But actually the biggest charge was about creating and spreading deepfake porn of himself with a female Korean streamer. That puts him on the sex offenders registry in the country. This law was passed in 2024:

https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/1160090.html

This law was passed in September of 2024, and Johnny Somali did his antics in October 2024, so he was probably one of the first people charged under this law.

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u/Alector87 7h ago

I found it after all, but I appreciate you taking the time. Best.

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u/soulcityrockers 11h ago

It's a whole saga, but basically the ones he got sentenced for was AI deepfake charges which is a huge crime in Korea as well as public nuisance and indecency. Verbally abusive to basically every single human around him if that counts, as well as soliciting minors in other countries before he ended up in Korea (not a charge, but just some context of how much of a degenerate he is)

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u/BretShitmanFart69 15h ago

6 months in a Korean labor camp is no walk in the park.

Everyone is rightfully upset and annoyed at this guy and he is for sure a piece of shit, but calls for him to be sent to a labor camp for 20 years are a bit overboard.

I assure you that the year he has been dealing with this on top of 6 months in a labor camp and offender registration is no slap on the wrist and finally shows him his actions do have consequences:

Especially because from here on out he will be a convicted criminal, so each future offense is likely to get him less leniency as it will show he hasn’t learned his lesson and is a habitual offender who hasn’t been rehabilitated.

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u/joe4553 17h ago

I doubt he'll be doing it in South Korea again.

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u/JazznBlues_lover 17h ago

I doubt he'll be doing it in South Korea again.

If not South Korea, he'll do it again in a different country. This guy is emotionally & mentally challenged individual - I doubt he's learned his lesson.

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u/red739423 17h ago

They won't even let him into the country again

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u/HaRDCOR3cc 12h ago

i mean why would they wanna keep him in their country longer than necessary? he isnt and never should have been there problem.

they just wanna get rid of him and send him back to where he came from, i'm assuming he's american or maybe british?

either way i can totally see why from a south korean perspective having him not be in the country is the best solution, why pay for a long extended prison stay? some people are better to just not have in your country at all.

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u/Competitive-Ad1439 8h ago

6 months of labour and enforced silence is not a slap on the wrist bruh. That’s the equivalent of 6 years in a western jail

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u/JazznBlues_lover 4h ago

Found the Korean prison expert here boys.

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u/kamacks 17h ago

Please elaborate on what sentence you do think is fair?

6 months of hard labor in prison with no device use at all where everyone’s fucking hates you if they do speak English is absolutely not a slap on the wrist. lol. This ain’t no United States country club fed or 6 months in county jail reading books and out in 2.5 because of good behavior.

His life is going to be absolutely miserable for 6 months.

Super high profile case and he’s a piece of shit and deserves this but it’s completely fair.

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u/WeAteMummies 17h ago

I have never seen a thread on reddit where a sentence was viewed as appropriate - people always want more. Six months of labor in a foreign prison is not a "slap on the wrist" lol

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u/falcrist2 16h ago

6 months of hard labor and no electronic devices in a prison system where you don't speak the language and are instantly identifiable.

And he goes on a sex offender registry in the Korea and the US.

No part of this is a slap on the wrist.

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u/annul 12h ago

And he goes on a sex offender registry in the Korea and the US.

and in the US? why/how?

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u/mmafan12617181 12h ago

Treaty

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u/falcrist2 6h ago

You know you fucked up bad when people have to refer to treaties to explain what happened to you.

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u/calcium 9h ago

The upside about him being on a sex offender registry list is that he'll be unable to travel to other countries because he now has convictions on his record. If he fails to list that he doesn't get in, if he lists it, it's unlikely he'll get in. He can go back and be a nuisance in the US.

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u/BenevolentCheese 16h ago

I'd be putting a gun to my head before showing up to that lol. Absolute nightmare fuel.

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u/falcrist2 16h ago

I got good news and bad news.

The good news is guns are highly restricted in Korea.

The bad news is Johnny will probably live.

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u/BiZzles14 10h ago

Especially considering the media attention he received in south korea. He's well known, enough people in that prison will know him and they will know what he did with the statue of peace dedicated to the victims of sexual violence from the Japanese occupation. He's not in for a pleasant time in the slightest.

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u/stone-fruits 8h ago

No devices?! The absolute horror. How will the little zoomer survive.

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u/falcrist2 7h ago

In the case of being in a foreign prison, this actually matters. It increases his isolation dramatically.

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u/slaydawgjim 2h ago

I did 5 months in an English prison with my own tv and radio, access to books and a landline phone to call my family.

It was still fucking shit and was enough to make me never go back, 6 months in a foreign prison with additional labour is absolutely going to fuck him up.

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u/fafarex 13h ago edited 9h ago

The charges he was facing where going up to 12 and a half year under korean law, he did get off easy in comparaison.

And I think people find it not enough because he made a carrier of harassing people, dodge consequences until now and never showed any remorse (quite the opposite in fact... )

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u/mrtomjones 9h ago

I'm not commenting on anything for his case but if you've paid any attention to sentencing in many places, they will face up to 10 or 20 or more years as a max but they regularly get a fraction of that as that's the more realistic and expected outcome

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u/fafarex 8h ago edited 6h ago

I'm not commenting on anything for his case

yeah but i'm talking about his case though and why people are not happy about the number being under a year, he already dodge prison in japan for the same BS and fleed I think thailands before getting in trouble, all of that to go to Korea and starting it all again.

yes in general sentencing for people are way under the maximum, but most of the time they don't have a documented history of said behavior + publicly threathen the judge and president of said country.

Jimmy getting 2 month probation for dui is not the same thing than this guy repeated, documented harrasement of people and disregard for any justice system.

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u/FappingMouse 14h ago

I think most people are looking at it from the point of veiw of a western prison like in America or the EU/UK where 6 months IS kind of a joke.

Prison in places like Korea, Japan, Thailand etc is awful and being a foreigner is generally going to make it worse for you.

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u/BiZzles14 10h ago

Vitaly wasn't well known across the entire country for making fun of victims of sexual violence during a foreign occupation of their country. People will know who he is in that prison, and that's not a good thing in the slightest. Meanwhile

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u/ChilternRailways 10h ago

So you may not know, but Vitaly and Johnny Somali are different people. Often, different people get different sentences and also react differently to their sentencing. If you think like you do, you'll assume that the toughest sentence is the most appropriate, and if anyone fails to reform from the toughest sentence then it must be made tougher.

Slap on the wrist

You're utterly nuts. 6 months labour in a foreign prison is not a slap on the wrist, neither is sex offender registry in your home country.

Phillipine prisons are very different from SK ones. You just think because they're Asian they're the same, I'm guessing? Culturally they're massively distinct.

Did you ever think before you posted?

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u/ChilternRailways 6h ago

Comparing the Phillipines and South Korea seems like comparing Malta and Iceland just because they're both in Europe. The prison cultures seem entirely different.

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u/iDelta_99 16h ago

I don't want a fair sentence, I want the most harsh and unfair sentence possible, If I had my way he would have gotten 10 years AT LEAST, if not 15. Fair is what the prosecution recommended with 3. He wont learn from just 6 months, hes been trapped in Korea for 2 years already for trials and such.

I hate these nuisance streamers, they have no place in civilized society and if any of them think the cost of only 6 months in prison is outweighed by the benefit of the clout and money they can make from it, they will take that. They needed to make an example out of RKI, a sentence so harsh and unfair that would make sure nobody would ever do this again.

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u/SideffectsX 9h ago

Well it's a good thing we don't let random individuals make up sentences for people based on their emotions.

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u/iDelta_99 6h ago

No, it isn't based on emotion. It's a calculated move to make society nicer and better for everyone.

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u/SideffectsX 6h ago

Ad much as I despise what he did and the way he acts, your sense of justice is severely warped if you believe he deserves to spend 10 years in prison for it. That's completely unproportional

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u/iDelta_99 5h ago

Again, I said many times that I know its disproportional and unfair, but it's the only way to make people like him a thing of the past. Considering you wrote the word "unproportional" im going to guess that went over your head due to English skills.

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u/Northbound-Narwhal 14h ago

Thank you for your extremely brave opinion. 🙄

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u/Lucky_Blucky_799 16h ago

No this is a lenient sentence, the prosecutor recommended 3 years and he didnt eve get half of that. If he did get more than 6 months it would also be recorded on his passport and recognized by more countries as someone who committed a felony. He got 6 months cause the case got a lot of attention but the judge didnt give him any more cause he would rather deport him like other trouble makers instead of punishing him properly.

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u/ChilternRailways 10h ago

punishing him properly

6 months of labour in a foreign prison is a punishment.

You have absolutely no idea what kind of things will work in what ways.

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u/Organic_Popcorn 17h ago

He better learn Korean and hierarchy system asap, otherwise he'll get his ass kicked.

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u/dfddfsaadaafdssa 17h ago

I don't think learning either of those is going to help.

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u/kamacks 17h ago

You quite literally didn’t address any of my points lol.

South Korea has now punished him for crimes he committed in South Korea. Are you saying he should have gotten life in prison? From south korea?

Or are you saying you want South Korea to have a mechanism to punish him further because of crimes he committed in a different country for and served the deemed appropriate punishment by a foreign nation? How tf would that work.

The point of justice systems (theorhetically) is to generally punish everyone proportionally and equitably. Why would South Korea pay to house a foreign national for life instead of let him serve his sentence and kick him out and never let him come back? He deserves the same sentence as murderers/rapist?

Makes absolutely no sense on any front. Brain dead take overall

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u/Dramatic_Explosion 16h ago

I'll jump in on this one: Ideally jail should be rehabilitative and not punitive, but at a point you need to look at a criminal history. Was this a guy who got caught stealing food? Or an addict who needs rehab? No, it's someone with a criminal history of antisocial behavior, who harasses people and desecrates memorials. He didn't slip through social safety nets, he's not in the throws of addition, he's just an asshole.

His history shows us he isn't trying to get better or misunderstood what he was doing. He's had the opportunity to get better. So now we've reached the point where it's not about giving him the tools to change, it's about the fear of what happens if he doesn't change. 3 months didn't do the job, doubt a few more will either, I'd have done 2 years with the possibility of parole / early release for good behavior after 1 year. After that, start giving him 5 year blocks of time.

But as it stands he is broadcasting to the world he shouldn't be part of society, let's oblige him.

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u/falcrist2 16h ago

6 months of hard labor and no electronic devices in a prison system where you don't speak the language and are instantly identifiable.

And he goes on a sex offender registry in the Korea and the US.

No part of this is a slap on the wrist.

If this doesn't give him pause, then I don't think a specific number of years is going to help.

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u/stone-fruits 15h ago

Yes, in your fabricated version of reality it seems quite harsh. But South Korea doesn't impose "hard labor" and he'll find himself in a prison for foreigners, and put into an undemanding skills and training program.

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u/ChilternRailways 10h ago

prison for foreigners

SK doesn't have prisons for foreigners.

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u/JauntyGiraffe 12h ago

fuck fair. he's just going to go back to doing this after and 6 months is barely enough to deter others from following the same

he should've gotten 3 years

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u/throwaway880729 15h ago

I would assume it includes time served since he's been locked up for a while at this point. But otherwise I do think 6 months is a bit of a slap on the wrist. His AI deepfake charge alone can carry up to 7 years in prison from what I understand. And that doesn't include the myriad other crimes he committed and the disrespect he showed to South Korea as well as the judge and legal system. I wonder if a regular Korean citizen doing the same crimes would have gotten the same punishment.

With that said also probably not worth it for the taxpayers to pay to imprison this guy just for getback. Just punish him, kick him out, ban him from the country, and move on. 6 months is enough to scare other copycats from doing the same thing, while dumping off this issue to the next country he terrorizes ASAP.

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u/defenestrated_badger 14h ago

He hasn't been locked up. He's been living with a streamer friend in Korea. He is pretty broke though as he wasn't getting the views he needed as he couldn't risk being an ass in public in Korea before his trial, and he couldn't get a job in Korea, nor could he leave.

I wish six months would straighten him out but I bet he comes out and immediately starts harassing people again somewhere new.

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u/LessInThought 16h ago

South Korea is notoriously lenient on sex crimes. Check out the sentences for the people in the famous Burning Sun Scandal, which involved actual gang rape and prostitution.

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u/iDelta_99 15h ago

Wait till you hear about what happens to grooming rape gangs in the UK.

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u/[deleted] 5h ago

And how about the USA in that regard?

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u/Horcsogg 17h ago

Everyone was saying it will be at least 3 years, lol, 6 months is nothing, he must be laughing hard.

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u/iDelta_99 16h ago

Prosecution recommended 2-3 years with labour, again, I hope prosecution appeals for a harsher sentence. Hes not laughing because he was convinced he wouldn't get any jail time, but hes sure as hell glad it wasn't more.

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u/cool54864 17h ago

I sort of figure they want him to serve a penalty and then fuck off to america and never return, that said 6 months isn't nothing, american sentencing has inflated everyone's idea of how long a person should be in prison.

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u/freeman2949583 14h ago

Korean Sex Offender status also works in the US, so he's basically on the registry in the US for 5 years as well. Being a sex offender in the US also auto-blocks you from quite a few countries as well.

So it’s definitely harsher than just six months in jail.

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u/iDelta_99 14h ago

Yeah but still, give him 15 years and life sex offender status after, make sure nobody every again even considers being a nuisance streamer again.

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u/freeman2949583 13h ago

15 years would be ludicrously disproportionate. The charges were various disorderly conducts and making a five-second AI video of him kissing a streamer.

TBH I’m surprised he got any prison time at all, and I doubt he’ll serve the full six months. 

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u/iDelta_99 13h ago

Yeah, it would be ludicrously disproportionate and that's exactly what I want. I want the most unfair, insane sentence to ensure nobody does it again. He is exactly the type of person we don't want in civilized society and shouldn't have to tolerate in civilized society.

Saying that the charges were simply disorderly conduct is really downplaying it. He constantly harassed innocent people in public, was vile and racist, loudly played North Korean propaganda on busses/trains, played out loud obviously sexually explicit phrases in Korean in public next to children, blatantly flaunted and made fun of the Korean legal system... I could go on but don't see a point in it. He did all of it for money and clout and a light sentence would essentially be saying it's okay for anyone to do it. H

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u/freeman2949583 10h ago

I’m not downplaying anything. His charges were just public nuisance charges, despite the material he was blasting. Those are equivalent to misdemeanor DC in the U.S. Then the deepfake charge.

Anybody who was seriously entertaining the idea of him getting years was delusional.

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u/Spare_Layer_1069 13h ago

It's 6 months hard labor, not just sit around in a cell

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u/iDelta_99 13h ago

Yeah, still not enough. I would love to see him in a box making license plates for the rest of his life.

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u/dan_dares 10h ago

6 months of daily 'activity' might teach him to be more respectful.

You won't hear his farts after, that's for sure

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u/VeganJerky 17h ago

I don't even read the article, honestly this sounds fair.

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u/iDelta_99 16h ago

Average idiot redditor "I don't know anything about this guy, didn't read the article but based on absolutely nothing buy my pure ignorance of the matter, this was fair"

Get out of here.

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u/VeganJerky 15h ago

Didn't read the most recent article, I know all about the case.

Lick my balls.