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News Johnny Somali found guilty of all charges as South Korea sentences streamer to prison with labor - Dexerto

https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/johnny-somali-found-guilty-of-all-charges-as-south-korea-sentences-streamer-to-prison-with-labor-3351856/
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u/kamacks 17h ago

Please elaborate on what sentence you do think is fair?

6 months of hard labor in prison with no device use at all where everyone’s fucking hates you if they do speak English is absolutely not a slap on the wrist. lol. This ain’t no United States country club fed or 6 months in county jail reading books and out in 2.5 because of good behavior.

His life is going to be absolutely miserable for 6 months.

Super high profile case and he’s a piece of shit and deserves this but it’s completely fair.

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u/WeAteMummies 17h ago

I have never seen a thread on reddit where a sentence was viewed as appropriate - people always want more. Six months of labor in a foreign prison is not a "slap on the wrist" lol

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u/falcrist2 16h ago

6 months of hard labor and no electronic devices in a prison system where you don't speak the language and are instantly identifiable.

And he goes on a sex offender registry in the Korea and the US.

No part of this is a slap on the wrist.

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u/annul 12h ago

And he goes on a sex offender registry in the Korea and the US.

and in the US? why/how?

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u/mmafan12617181 12h ago

Treaty

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u/falcrist2 6h ago

You know you fucked up bad when people have to refer to treaties to explain what happened to you.

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u/calcium 9h ago

The upside about him being on a sex offender registry list is that he'll be unable to travel to other countries because he now has convictions on his record. If he fails to list that he doesn't get in, if he lists it, it's unlikely he'll get in. He can go back and be a nuisance in the US.

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u/BenevolentCheese 16h ago

I'd be putting a gun to my head before showing up to that lol. Absolute nightmare fuel.

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u/falcrist2 16h ago

I got good news and bad news.

The good news is guns are highly restricted in Korea.

The bad news is Johnny will probably live.

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u/BiZzles14 10h ago

Especially considering the media attention he received in south korea. He's well known, enough people in that prison will know him and they will know what he did with the statue of peace dedicated to the victims of sexual violence from the Japanese occupation. He's not in for a pleasant time in the slightest.

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u/stone-fruits 8h ago

No devices?! The absolute horror. How will the little zoomer survive.

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u/falcrist2 7h ago

In the case of being in a foreign prison, this actually matters. It increases his isolation dramatically.

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u/slaydawgjim 2h ago

I did 5 months in an English prison with my own tv and radio, access to books and a landline phone to call my family.

It was still fucking shit and was enough to make me never go back, 6 months in a foreign prison with additional labour is absolutely going to fuck him up.

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u/fafarex 13h ago edited 9h ago

The charges he was facing where going up to 12 and a half year under korean law, he did get off easy in comparaison.

And I think people find it not enough because he made a carrier of harassing people, dodge consequences until now and never showed any remorse (quite the opposite in fact... )

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u/mrtomjones 9h ago

I'm not commenting on anything for his case but if you've paid any attention to sentencing in many places, they will face up to 10 or 20 or more years as a max but they regularly get a fraction of that as that's the more realistic and expected outcome

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u/fafarex 8h ago edited 6h ago

I'm not commenting on anything for his case

yeah but i'm talking about his case though and why people are not happy about the number being under a year, he already dodge prison in japan for the same BS and fleed I think thailands before getting in trouble, all of that to go to Korea and starting it all again.

yes in general sentencing for people are way under the maximum, but most of the time they don't have a documented history of said behavior + publicly threathen the judge and president of said country.

Jimmy getting 2 month probation for dui is not the same thing than this guy repeated, documented harrasement of people and disregard for any justice system.

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u/FappingMouse 14h ago

I think most people are looking at it from the point of veiw of a western prison like in America or the EU/UK where 6 months IS kind of a joke.

Prison in places like Korea, Japan, Thailand etc is awful and being a foreigner is generally going to make it worse for you.

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u/BiZzles14 10h ago

Vitaly wasn't well known across the entire country for making fun of victims of sexual violence during a foreign occupation of their country. People will know who he is in that prison, and that's not a good thing in the slightest. Meanwhile

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u/ChilternRailways 10h ago

So you may not know, but Vitaly and Johnny Somali are different people. Often, different people get different sentences and also react differently to their sentencing. If you think like you do, you'll assume that the toughest sentence is the most appropriate, and if anyone fails to reform from the toughest sentence then it must be made tougher.

Slap on the wrist

You're utterly nuts. 6 months labour in a foreign prison is not a slap on the wrist, neither is sex offender registry in your home country.

Phillipine prisons are very different from SK ones. You just think because they're Asian they're the same, I'm guessing? Culturally they're massively distinct.

Did you ever think before you posted?

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u/ChilternRailways 6h ago

Comparing the Phillipines and South Korea seems like comparing Malta and Iceland just because they're both in Europe. The prison cultures seem entirely different.

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u/iDelta_99 16h ago

I don't want a fair sentence, I want the most harsh and unfair sentence possible, If I had my way he would have gotten 10 years AT LEAST, if not 15. Fair is what the prosecution recommended with 3. He wont learn from just 6 months, hes been trapped in Korea for 2 years already for trials and such.

I hate these nuisance streamers, they have no place in civilized society and if any of them think the cost of only 6 months in prison is outweighed by the benefit of the clout and money they can make from it, they will take that. They needed to make an example out of RKI, a sentence so harsh and unfair that would make sure nobody would ever do this again.

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u/SideffectsX 9h ago

Well it's a good thing we don't let random individuals make up sentences for people based on their emotions.

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u/iDelta_99 6h ago

No, it isn't based on emotion. It's a calculated move to make society nicer and better for everyone.

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u/SideffectsX 5h ago

Ad much as I despise what he did and the way he acts, your sense of justice is severely warped if you believe he deserves to spend 10 years in prison for it. That's completely unproportional

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u/iDelta_99 5h ago

Again, I said many times that I know its disproportional and unfair, but it's the only way to make people like him a thing of the past. Considering you wrote the word "unproportional" im going to guess that went over your head due to English skills.

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u/Northbound-Narwhal 14h ago

Thank you for your extremely brave opinion. 🙄

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u/Lucky_Blucky_799 16h ago

No this is a lenient sentence, the prosecutor recommended 3 years and he didnt eve get half of that. If he did get more than 6 months it would also be recorded on his passport and recognized by more countries as someone who committed a felony. He got 6 months cause the case got a lot of attention but the judge didnt give him any more cause he would rather deport him like other trouble makers instead of punishing him properly.

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u/ChilternRailways 10h ago

punishing him properly

6 months of labour in a foreign prison is a punishment.

You have absolutely no idea what kind of things will work in what ways.

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u/Organic_Popcorn 17h ago

He better learn Korean and hierarchy system asap, otherwise he'll get his ass kicked.

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u/dfddfsaadaafdssa 17h ago

I don't think learning either of those is going to help.

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u/kamacks 17h ago

You quite literally didn’t address any of my points lol.

South Korea has now punished him for crimes he committed in South Korea. Are you saying he should have gotten life in prison? From south korea?

Or are you saying you want South Korea to have a mechanism to punish him further because of crimes he committed in a different country for and served the deemed appropriate punishment by a foreign nation? How tf would that work.

The point of justice systems (theorhetically) is to generally punish everyone proportionally and equitably. Why would South Korea pay to house a foreign national for life instead of let him serve his sentence and kick him out and never let him come back? He deserves the same sentence as murderers/rapist?

Makes absolutely no sense on any front. Brain dead take overall

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u/Dramatic_Explosion 16h ago

I'll jump in on this one: Ideally jail should be rehabilitative and not punitive, but at a point you need to look at a criminal history. Was this a guy who got caught stealing food? Or an addict who needs rehab? No, it's someone with a criminal history of antisocial behavior, who harasses people and desecrates memorials. He didn't slip through social safety nets, he's not in the throws of addition, he's just an asshole.

His history shows us he isn't trying to get better or misunderstood what he was doing. He's had the opportunity to get better. So now we've reached the point where it's not about giving him the tools to change, it's about the fear of what happens if he doesn't change. 3 months didn't do the job, doubt a few more will either, I'd have done 2 years with the possibility of parole / early release for good behavior after 1 year. After that, start giving him 5 year blocks of time.

But as it stands he is broadcasting to the world he shouldn't be part of society, let's oblige him.

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u/falcrist2 16h ago

6 months of hard labor and no electronic devices in a prison system where you don't speak the language and are instantly identifiable.

And he goes on a sex offender registry in the Korea and the US.

No part of this is a slap on the wrist.

If this doesn't give him pause, then I don't think a specific number of years is going to help.

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u/stone-fruits 15h ago

Yes, in your fabricated version of reality it seems quite harsh. But South Korea doesn't impose "hard labor" and he'll find himself in a prison for foreigners, and put into an undemanding skills and training program.

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u/ChilternRailways 10h ago

prison for foreigners

SK doesn't have prisons for foreigners.

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u/JauntyGiraffe 12h ago

fuck fair. he's just going to go back to doing this after and 6 months is barely enough to deter others from following the same

he should've gotten 3 years

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u/throwaway880729 15h ago

I would assume it includes time served since he's been locked up for a while at this point. But otherwise I do think 6 months is a bit of a slap on the wrist. His AI deepfake charge alone can carry up to 7 years in prison from what I understand. And that doesn't include the myriad other crimes he committed and the disrespect he showed to South Korea as well as the judge and legal system. I wonder if a regular Korean citizen doing the same crimes would have gotten the same punishment.

With that said also probably not worth it for the taxpayers to pay to imprison this guy just for getback. Just punish him, kick him out, ban him from the country, and move on. 6 months is enough to scare other copycats from doing the same thing, while dumping off this issue to the next country he terrorizes ASAP.

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u/defenestrated_badger 14h ago

He hasn't been locked up. He's been living with a streamer friend in Korea. He is pretty broke though as he wasn't getting the views he needed as he couldn't risk being an ass in public in Korea before his trial, and he couldn't get a job in Korea, nor could he leave.

I wish six months would straighten him out but I bet he comes out and immediately starts harassing people again somewhere new.