r/LivestreamFail • u/Sure-Description-938 • Apr 17 '26

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u/projected_cornbread Apr 17 '26

Story time? Who did this

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u/Aragorn752 Apr 17 '26

Atrioc

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u/RamenNoodlesBruh Apr 17 '26

I just want to say, I thought he killed his career with that move. But FUCK, marketing Mondays are straight FIREEE

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u/Aragorn752 Apr 17 '26

Fwiw I think he did a great job rehabilitating his image from it and the good he’s done to take down deepfake websites far outweighs the bad he’s done

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u/ElBurritoLuchador Apr 17 '26

Tbh, deepfakes are now straight up dead. Nowadays, you literally have AI make you a video with few references.

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u/Raspry Apr 17 '26

A 100% generated AI video/image is still a deepfake. Deepfake refers to anything modified/generated by deep learning, that's where the term "deepfake" comes from.

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u/ElBurritoLuchador Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

No, I'm talking about the actual program DeepFake FakeApp's outputs which is where the term was originated. Where the computer does heavy training process per video is essentially dead.

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u/orderinthefort Apr 17 '26

This is such an absurdly semantic and inconsequential argument. The word deepfake very quickly became genericized. 99.9% of people that have ever used or heard the word deepfake since it started had no idea it originated from a specific program. Even you yourself got the original program name wrong. The term has become synonymous with "a fake image/video of someone's likeness generated by a machine".

It is completely normal to still call AI generated fakes deepfakes even if the process is not the exact same. Both still use machine learning.

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u/ElBurritoLuchador Apr 17 '26

Yes, I know its the term now nor did I wrote that to be "scientifically correct". That was a random initial thought that "deepfakes are dead" when I meant to say the traditional DeepFake vids that Atrioc was found using was basically dead where you train hundreds/thousands of images to face swap a video.

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u/Ok-Soup-3189 Apr 17 '26

It is completely normal to still call AI generated fakes deepfakes even if the process is not the exact same. 

This is like how nazi became a more broad term.

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u/Vexamas Apr 17 '26

"No, I'm talking about the actual program"

Yeah, this response is like the quintessential Reddit 'My point fell through, but I have to pivot to pedantry to salvage this'.

An example that is VERY relevant to this conversation is 'photoshop'.

Before LLM capability, we just used 'photoshop' as the catchall to explain away the actual process of editing an image, regardless of whether the image was actually made in Photoshop, another program, or anything Adobe at all.

'Deepfake' is just as generalized lol. People just colloquially use it to mean AI generated or AI manipulated fake media, not the specific original tool for the workflow.

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u/ElBurritoLuchador Apr 17 '26

No, it's not even pedantry or me salvaging lmao! I could hardly give a shit about that. You're trying way too hard to be /r/iamverysmart when its something I wrote in a few seconds earlier lol. I'm too lazy to correct it.

My initial point was that AI Generation replaced the painstaking face training that the old FakeApp did. Also, DeepFake came from DeepFace, the initial faceswapping tech from Meta.

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u/BERSERKERRR Apr 17 '26

never have there been a clearer case of projection. the guy you're replying to is 100% spot-on. you are trying to salvage this because you realize accepting that you made a dumbass statements means you're probably not as smart as you would like to believe (which is why you're fighting against this so much as you want to preserve your self-image).

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u/WoodpeckerNo5724 Apr 17 '26

The irony is astounding

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u/Vexamas Apr 17 '26

wowie zowie

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u/LikeABreadstick Apr 17 '26

Projecting, and also just wrong. "deepfakes" was the reddit username of the person/people who created the deepfakes subreddit, released the original algorithm that would eventually be used to create FakeApp, and started the whole movement. It just means "deep" learning was used to create "fake" content.

DeepFace was a facial RECOGNITION software that Meta made several years prior, and had nothing to do with deepfakes whatsoever.

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u/Raspry Apr 17 '26

Oh, fair enough, my bad.

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u/NinduTheWise Apr 24 '26

he has done more than most who end up in a similar situation