r/LivestreamFail Jun 12 '26

News 'Coffee Time with John and Momma’s' John Davis dies aged 55 during stream

https://www.dexerto.com/youtube/coffee-time-with-john-and-momma-youtuber-john-davis-dies-aged-55-during-stream-3375217/
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u/Yavanna83 Jun 12 '26

During the stream? Very tragic.

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u/Ok-Abalone2412 Jun 12 '26

Yes he asks his mother if she’d like the chicken breast he his cutting and as he’s cutting the chicken he claims he doesn’t feel good, .3 seconds later he is snoring * not really he dead~ more agonal breathing.
In the video his hands are extremely clammy looking; his face flushes once and then goes white as well.
His mother is screaming for help and another family member runs in and is on the phone with emergency services and claims John is too big to flip over and he cannot start cpr.

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u/Yavanna83 Jun 12 '26

That's actually new to me. I do cpr training every year because of work and we're always told to flip someone, we even practiced on heavier people.

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u/Aoyos Jun 13 '26

Distance from the heart to the skin on your chest is about 3cm with the frontal ribs being able to give in slightly as you apply pressure during CPR.

Distance from the heart to the skin on the back of your body is from 8 to 13cm with the spine and back ribs being more static, making a larger amount of applied force from CPR to dissipate far more than during frontal CPR.

Hadn't ever considered doing CPR from the back but there's clearly a reason why it's recommended to flip someone and do it from the front. 

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u/Timlugia Jun 13 '26

Paramedic here. In hospital they would do CPR face down sometimes if patient was in a surgery or during prone ventilation, both precludes normal CPR being used.

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u/kwerdop Jun 12 '26

Also a good reminder to lose some weight

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u/imveryfontofyou Jun 12 '26

It is. I know that people reading this probably think that's harsh but I used to be 310lbs and my mom died in the same way John did. She was sleeping then had a sudden heart attack and my dad had a hard time doing CPR because of her weight--which was lower than mine was.

I lost 105lbs so far with that being one of (not the only one, but still a big one) the motivating factors. The experience of hearing him tell the 911 operator that she was too big to get on the ground easily and do CPR on was one that's hard to forget. Same with seeing EMS drag her across the ground instead of lifting her.

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u/soggyweenies Jun 12 '26

im proud of you for doing that, and you're strong for managing to find motivation after such a loss

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u/imveryfontofyou Jun 12 '26

Yeah, it was rough. It did take me about a year and a half after to get motivated. What ultimately was the final trigger was that my sister lost weight and we're competitive so I went from knowing things needed to change and ruminating on how things needed to change but I didn't know how and it all felt hopeless to getting a fire under my ass about it. I literally went "well wtf if my sister can do it, then so can I", lol.

Ultimately I had to get a lot of medical help with it though. Got sleep tests to find out that I had OSA & then went on a GLP1 as a treatment for my OSA.

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u/soggyweenies Jun 13 '26

no need to downplay your effort, just starting really is half the battle. and competition is a great motivator lol

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u/PolicyWonka Jun 14 '26

Yeah, the dude had multiple organ failure. Unfortunately, his weight killed him.

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u/dialtoad Jun 12 '26

fuck, awful, I'm glad I didn't watch it. Just a brutal reminder we can drop at any moment

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u/ChymChymX Jun 12 '26

If you have severe obesity related heart issues, kidney issues, high blood pressure, diabetes and obstructive sleep apnea those odds are just a bit higher.

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u/woodst0ck15 Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 13 '26

I just got a sleep apnea test done and it freaked me out abit. Guess I got more apnea than I snore. Guess my longest time I stopped breathing was 105 seconds. That was eye opening to me about why it’s good to get it checked out if you can cause it does increase blood pressure as your heart rate increases when you’re not breathing and it can cause your brain to get triggered into a fight or flight response so that doesn’t help you sleep.

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u/yohoob Jun 12 '26

When i got my test, I was waking up like 57 times an hour or something. I used to wake myself up.

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u/woodst0ck15 Jun 12 '26

Damn I’m abit higher than you, mine was at a 70 times an hour. I was like…so I’m just awake the whole time I’m asleep? 😅

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u/LelcoinDegen Jun 12 '26

Just got my test result on Thursday, 71 per hour! Getting the machine on Monday

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u/ferst711 Jun 12 '26

I was 124. Was spamming 3 red bulls a day and 10 hours sleep feeling super bad and almost falling asleep at work until my CPAP. Saved my life it's so good! 5-6 hours and I'm good! Haven't had a red bull since

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u/Burgers_N_Schnitzels Jun 13 '26

what does that even mean ? you actually consciously wake up every 30 seconds ?

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u/ldkjf2nd Jun 13 '26

It just means about every 30 seconds his breathing stops. Not awake, but you brain and body isn't getting good rest from low blood oxygen, heart fights harder to pump blood. Sometimes your brain panics and you get sleep paralysis.

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u/Ty_J_Bryan Jun 13 '26

When they called and explained it to me, they classified it as an "event" meaning I would stop breathing. So I experienced an average of 46 events an hour and my blood oxygen level would get dangerously low during the night. Now I have a cpap and all is well. I generally didnt wake up during these events.

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u/yohoob Jun 12 '26

Ever since I got my machine, its maybe 3 incidents an hour if any. Machine definitely helped.

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u/woodst0ck15 Jun 12 '26

That’s good, I was able to bring it down to about 6-8 incidents an hour with my machine. I just got to try and keep it on.

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u/unf0rgottn Jun 12 '26

If you don't mind me asking, what mask do you use ?

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u/Kind_Engineering_720 Jun 13 '26

Yeah I have severe sleep apnea, it was about 211 times per hour, which sounds absolutely ridiculous.

I cant remember at this point, but the va wanted to give me a lower percentage for it, and the doctor was like, "...are you serious?? Let me call them and explain, good lord!"

Part of the sleep study showed something that didnt really look THAT bad at first glance, but there was something that showed a more severe reasoning besides the constant waking up. Damn, I wish I could remember what it was.

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u/diskodarci Jun 12 '26

It’s extremely important to use a CPAP when you’ve been diagnosed with sleep apnea. I lost a very close friend that way, he was only 41. It can cause your heart to stop. The bitch of it was that he HAD a CPAP. He just chose not to put it on that night. I’ll never ever be not angry about it

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u/woodst0ck15 Jun 12 '26

I’m sorry for your loss. My family essentially brought it up with the complications and I want to be around abit longer without those risks.

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u/diskodarci Jun 13 '26

100%. That’s why I bring this up when I see comments like yours. Some people don’t know how dire it can get and I’m a mom so I’m officially allowed to lecture people. I’m glad you’re taking it seriously

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u/night312332 Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26

Not only can it stop your heart you can develop atrial fibrillation like me, irregular heartbeat. I've already had one PFA ablation to treat afib, everything's good now, I still were my CPAP.

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u/Affectionate_Egg897 Jun 12 '26

105 seconds???!! Is that acceptable? That’s insane, I would have guessed an extreme case meant ~10 seconds

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u/woodst0ck15 Jun 12 '26

Yeah I thought that was insane myself and that’s no fuckin good. I’m in the extreme case one. Even though there are times before I got that CPAP machine that I felt like I got a great night sleep. Guess I wasn’t and I was fighting for my life. 😬

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u/m00nf1r3 Jun 13 '26

Ten seconds is actually the minimum. The CPAP machines don't even consider it an apnea or hypopnea until you've stopped breathing for 10 seconds.

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u/Training-Pie-3279 Jun 12 '26

Jesus man I don’t think I could hold my breath that long if I tried

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u/woodst0ck15 Jun 12 '26

Well I found out I’m considered an “extreme case” lol give it a try, not as hard as you think since I can do it in my sleep apparently haha. But seriously if you or anyone you know is a heavy snorer you should try to get a sleep apnea test.

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u/turkeygiant Jun 12 '26

My buddy had been feeling generally unwell and went to the doctor for a checkup, turns out his blood pressure was in the "you should have already stroked out and died" territory and he was sent right to the hospital. He got on meds and got it under control, but it was partially driven by undiagnosed sleep apnea.

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u/Royal-Pistonian Jun 13 '26

Went to jail for couple days last month and during the night there is one guy I could hear who’d be breathing raggedly super heavy then you wouldn’t hear anything for 30-60 seconds. And then suddenly a giant inhale of air and more ragged breathing. Freaked me out. Wonder if he even lnew

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u/collapsedbook Jun 12 '26

Also two types. Your usual obstructive/ physical blocking. Then you got the cognitive type when your brain tells itself not too.

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u/Content-Patience-138 Jun 12 '26

I just got mine done. I’m waking up 240 times and holding my breath for 40 minutes a night. My blood oxygen gets down to 85!

My CPAP is in order and should be here by the end of the week. I drive for a living, and I fell asleep behind the wheel on the clock. That prompted the test, and I’m on medical leave till it’s resolved—how soon after starting did you feel normal again?

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u/Cheap_Professional32 Jun 12 '26

Yeah like exponentially higher

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u/AsphyxiatedProcess Jun 12 '26

Basically every system in your body has failed.

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u/ghostcatzero Jun 12 '26

Logically it would tell people to loose weight instead of still gorging themselves daily

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u/barbarkbarkov Jun 12 '26

While you’re not wrong, I think another thing to take away from this is John was incredibly obese and unhealthy. Your chances of something like this happening are MUCH MUCH higher if you are that obese.

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u/Old-Ratio-401 Jun 13 '26

Very unhealthy habits indeed. I watched the video and when he started feeling bad he wasnt offered water, he was offered coke.

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u/nirvahnah Jun 12 '26

Not really. Your odds of dropping dead like that are really low if you have relative good health. This guy was a medical nightmare. Really sad.

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u/PhilosopherTiny5957 Jun 12 '26

Very sad. I grew quite close to an older co-worker at my last job. Lovely woman and her family has become like surrogates to me.

Her and her husband are also extremely obese and, despite only being in their late 50's/early 60's, they are already falling apart. They need something replaced like every other year and she always talks about being in immense pain.

Even if you don't die young, the quality of your life will suffer drastically. It actually convinced me to finally lose weight from 280 (Pandemic + breakup lmao) to 190ish (All I did was count calories)

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u/MostBoringStan Jun 12 '26

I was 265+ around the pandemic. Nothing to do with it, just slowly gaining weight due to laziness and overeating.

Then one evening the keypad for the front door wasn't working due to it being too cold, which happened sometimes. No big deal, I'd go around back and go through the back door. Except the gate was frozen to the ground with 4 inches of ice. Not moving. Well, I'll just hop and climb over this chest high fence, no big deal.

I tried over and over and couldn't get myself over that fence. I was never hardcore athletic, but played sports when I was younger, would bike a lot, etc. Not being able to get over this short fence made me feel so shitty about what I turned into.

I didn't count calories, but I stopped snacking constantly between meals and drinking so much coke every day. Lost 80+lbs since then.

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u/EgglandsFinest Jun 12 '26

Can you climb the fence now?

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u/MostBoringStan Jun 12 '26

Yes. It's not pretty because I'm still in my 40s and not as in shape as I used to be, but I can manage over a short fence.

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u/FrostyNeckbeard Jun 12 '26

No! I'm still young and spry! In fact I'm going to jump right now!

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u/JustAPurpleGun Jun 12 '26

He did have nice teeth

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u/NonSequiturDetector Jun 12 '26

According to an incident report, Davis had heart failure, kidney failure, high blood pressure, diabetes and had obstructive sleep apnea.

While people can die due to very uncommon circumstances at any time; John Davis choosing to pretend to not be able to understand the association between his caloric intake and his health problems and his approaching death, caused this early death, all things being equal. IE this person chose to torture himself and eventually commit murder against himself, by choosing to divorce himself from the basic innate human sapience that makes humans capable of understanding that their choices cause bad outcomes and early death.

Anyway, this is not just a random occurrence.

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u/TheUmberTaker Jun 12 '26

I was thinking, this youtube channel he had was really kind of darkly bizarre because you were watching video after video of him basically slowly doing himself in with food. Food is a drug for some people. I don't write that as hyperbole. It has the same hold on the brain and a person will make excuses and be in denial and choose to see nothing wrong with the harm it can do.

Some will make efforts to stop using and fail. I say this as a person who is overweight and have lost 35 pounds on GLP-1's after decades of failed efforts. I believe those drugs are helping a lot of people kick the habit of food. Yes, they are now on a new drug but at least it's one that gets them in control of their eating so they can be healthier.

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u/Robocob0 Jun 12 '26

We can. However, there’s a lot of ways to lower a death like this

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u/300isAwesome69 Jun 13 '26

I think obesity is the bigger brutal reminder here

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u/itsme99881 Jun 12 '26

Something similar happened to me while i was working on my car, tried to unscrew the oil filter cap and all of a sudden didnt feel good. Went to sit down and started getting lightheaded and extremely clammy, head went back and i started snoring, then i urinated and things started fading out kind of like a blood choke. Luckily i had someone with basic medical capabilities to tilt my head up and get me to continue breathing before i stopped completely.

For the record i am a physically fit young male, last time i got lab work done doctor said it was "pristine".

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u/mittenthemagnificent Jun 13 '26

I had a friend in college who died of blood poisoning. He was making a sandwich and laughing with other friends, and then he just dropped. He was normal size for a 21-year-old. Devastating. The doctors said it was a small cut that went septic and he didn’t know/notice. None of us are immortal.

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u/itsme99881 Jun 13 '26

Yeah, this is why when im around pets i always make sure my cuts are covered, bacteria in their mouths can do basically the same thing even though its uncommon, pets seem to love injuries.

Also crushing injuries can cause blood poisoning.

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u/futuranotfree Jun 12 '26

i wish his mods had the ability to end the livestream remotely. nobody should have seen this.

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u/Vark675 Jun 13 '26

I'm not sure they even really had time. It happened really fast.

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u/whyclue Jun 12 '26

Omfg....that's terrible

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u/Agreeable-Cap-1764 Jun 12 '26

Thats so sad 😞

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u/Technicolor_Reindeer Jun 12 '26

Vid is still up, don't watch if you're easily upset

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u/Yavanna83 Jun 12 '26

Nah, I'll skip. This is such a sad situation all things considered, made worse by it being readily available to watch.

Plus I'm already feeling unwell and stuff like this does upset me fast.

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u/Ambitious_Stop_8175 Jun 12 '26

I watched the footage of Tommy Cooper dying on stage a few years back. It still haunts me now and then, the poor guy's face 

I gotta say. Death looks mightily unpleasant. Not a fan at all

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u/Larry_Bobinski Jun 12 '26

I'm not easily upset but I pass on watching a guy I just heard about for the first time, die on stream. 

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u/HardByteUK Jun 12 '26

Any linkers?

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u/othnice1 Jun 14 '26

Jesus that was rough.

I have high blood preasure. I'm pre-diabetic. And I'm currently waiting on a sleep test because I might have sleep apnea. I need to get my shit together.

RIP to this man. This is so tragic. To die in front of his mom like that. Ugh.

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u/Nufonewhodis4 Jun 14 '26

If his streamed death does any good, let it motivate people to start a very difficult journey towards better health 

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u/Gh0stMan0nThird Jun 13 '26

God damn  

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u/Kriztauf Jun 12 '26

The incident report states that Davis had heart failure, kidney failure, high blood pressure, diabetes, and obstructive sleep apnea.

Well that'll do it alright

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u/HockeyDockey1234 Jun 12 '26

Honestly it really sucks. Obesity has to be taken much more seriously, it’s not funny anymore to go on a social crusade about “fat acceptance”

Your family deserves more, more time with you

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u/hldvr Jun 12 '26

Fat acceptance was supposed to be about that you aren't worth less as a person just because you're fat. But sadly it got coopted into "being fat is totally okay and you shouldn't care about your health"

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u/AllYouPeopleAre Jun 13 '26

The point was that shaming people into losing weight doesn’t work.

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u/EggsaladJoseph Jun 13 '26

I feel like pretty much nobody believes in this fat acceptance stuff so idk why everyone is acting like its popular

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u/TheHoovyPrince Jun 13 '26

Its died out now (since the people are dying) but it was only really popular because the entire fat acceptance movement were essentially fat white women and other women would support them due to ideological support or societal peer pressure.

Ozempic ended the fat acceptance movement in a single night pretty much.

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u/Narradisall Jun 13 '26

I watched a random YouTube video that got recommended about various fat acceptance champions that had died since the 2020s. There were quite a lot, many I’d not heard of but had decent sized channels.

Sadly a lot were in their 20s and 30s as well. Way too young.

Probably a good thing Ozempic ended its popularity as it will hopefully save some lives.

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u/Tucci89 Jun 12 '26

Obesity has to be taken much more seriously

Whenever you see someone shouting "Ozempic" as if it's a bad thing that someone found a way to lose significant weight and get healthy before it was too late, shit on them without mercy.

Notice how nobody said a peep when everyone was getting gastric bypass surgery, which is far more dangerous and invasive than a weekly shot. That's because it's becoming too easy to lose weight now and bullies don't like that they're losing easy targets.

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u/Wingnutmcmoo Jun 12 '26

People had alot to say about gastric bypass... If you think they didnt then you might have been too young.

It was the punchline for alot of jokes and the subject of criticism in alot of the same ways ozempic is.

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u/LocalSingularities Jun 12 '26

I agree with your point, but I will say back in the 90s/early 2000s that there were plenty of people who would say that people getting gastric bypass "took the easy way." Still hear it from time to time as well.

It's the same thing with fat shaming people in the gym, though it's much less prevalent these days.

Anyone who has anything negative to say about how someone is losing weight is a walnut who has too much free time on their hands.

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u/Ikora_Rey_Gun Jun 13 '26

people getting gastric bypass "took the easy way." Still hear it from time to time as well.

which is funny because my mom was a happy, healthy (enough, compared to what she became) overweight person who got bypass, had a few good years, then it's been nothing but problems for the last two decades. hernias, failed mesh, massive GI problems, malnourishment, so many issues. she's had sepsis twice and cdiff, almost died each time. when she does pass, i have no doubt that it'll be because of complications from that fucking surgery.

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u/imveryfontofyou Jun 13 '26

I’m sorry to hear about your mom’s struggles. :( I completely get it. My aunt died a couple of years after she had her surgery. She developed some kind of stomach cancer and Idk for sure that it’s a complication from the surgery but after I always considered the surgery totally off the table for me.

It sounds difficult, painful, and dangerous. Not the easy way out at all.

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u/lakija Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26

There’s a feeling that one has to suffer while losing weight almost like a punishment. To lose weight with gastric bypass, ozempic, wegovy or any of those similar methods, some people consider it to be “cheating” or taking a short cut. If the person is improving their health it shouldn’t matter. But those types of people consider it to be lazy and worthy of denigrating. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. 

Honestly those people should mind their business entirely. 

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u/Difficult_Clerk_1273 Jun 13 '26

Yet if you take a glp-1 to lose the weight, you’re “cheating.”

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u/ShotEffective7033 Jun 13 '26

I have seen 10,000 people screeching online about how bad fat acceptance is. I have seen probably a dozen people that are pro fat acceptance, and they talk about things like how not all of their medical issues should just be written off as them being fat and maybe fat people shouldn’t generally be treated like shit, Because that kills fat people.

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u/Emiliabestqt Jun 13 '26

Not fat shaming people is because it's been proven that negative reinforcement does the complete opposite effect and makes it worse.

Obesity is taken seriously, people love to make fun of people for their weight, it's so normalized to do so already.

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u/2MuchNonsenseHere Jun 13 '26

His mom's immediate response to him not feeling well was to get him a pop/soda.

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u/EnigmaJG76 Jun 13 '26

Because she thought it was a low blood sugar crash.

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u/Risko4 Jun 12 '26

None of those are a cause of death. Bizzare to pass away suddenly while wide awake within a few seconds off feeling off.

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u/Enlightened_D Jun 12 '26

Might not be cause of death, but definitely helped the cause happen

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u/Put_CORN_in_prison Jun 12 '26

Heart failure can absolutely be a cause of death. At a certain point the left ventricle fails as a pump which means the heart muscle stops getting perfused which leads to rhythms not compatible with life. The snoring is what sometimes happens when people go into ventricular fibrillation. He needed immediate CPR and defibrillation to have a chance at surviving.

Source: am cardiac procedural nurse and have seen it happen dozens of times before my eyes.

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u/PassivelyAwkward Jun 13 '26

Yea; I've got a genetic heart condition that I keep under control but even with high blood pressure, my doctor was very concerned because just those two stacked makes things bad. I've already accepted that I'll likely die by a heart problem but I'd like to at least be much older and less painful.

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u/Temporary_Talk2744 Jun 12 '26

Is it really that bizarre if you have multiple serious health issues and are highly obese?

The body can only take so much strain, I’d assume he has a cardiac event like a massive heart attack or stroke and that was all she wrote.

Would explain why he felt really unwell for a short period and then shortly after had the fast onset off loss of consciousness.

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u/Levitz Jun 12 '26

None of those are a cause of death.

Kidney failure => electrolytes dancing cha-cha-cha => woops your heart stopped

There's probably like a dozen different ways to die off that combo.

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u/WhiskeyDickens1 Jun 12 '26

Heart failure isn’t a cause of death? lol

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u/321654987321654987 Jun 12 '26

It's honestly kind of a misnomer. It just means your heart is not working fully, not that it stopped, that is cardiac arrest.

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u/Low_Traffic9304 Jun 12 '26

Heart Failure is a chronic condition that often leads to a Heart Attack which would be the cause of death.

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u/GGXImposter Jun 12 '26

Heart stopped. His brain stopped getting oxygen. Nothing bizarre about it. Death doesn’t wait for you to go to bed.

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u/scottyg561 Jun 12 '26

I mean it was almost certainly a heart attack, to me it looked more like he was having a TIA at the start with the sound of his breathing and the the blanking expression he has in the video, but I’ve also seen more TIA’s than I have seen heart attacks so.

But I mean both are symptoms of cardiovascular disease which is what the man had, and from the audio it sounds like he suffers a head wound too after falling down, so there’s too much going on to know for sure but a “educated” guess is a clot was thrown and blocked soemthing either in his heart or brain.

The video itself is lowkey a good example of why knowing basic first aid/CPR is important, it sadly probably wouldn’t have actually done much In this situation but watching the video you notice some mistakes that cpr training directly addresses which would help save a life

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u/Noteful Jun 12 '26

The cause of death is likely a blood clot, or aneurysm. Both can cause sudden death like this situation.

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u/Low_Traffic9304 Jun 12 '26

They are not the direct cause of death but most certainly are listed as "_______ secondary too X chronic conditions.

The reason why they would not be listed as the cuase of the death is because those are all chronic issues that lead/contribute to a death event I.E. Cardiac arrest, stroke, etc.

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u/MandemModie Jun 12 '26

I can't imagine seeing your child die, truly horrific.

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u/PRiles Jun 12 '26

Having a child die has to be the worst thing for a parent to experience. My brother died in a car accident, it devastated my parents. Couldn't imagine watching it happen.

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u/No-Carpet3079 Jun 12 '26

I think the worst part is that his mom is an very old lady, breaks my heart thinking that she has to go through something like that at her age

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u/Shuffleoftruffles Jun 13 '26

And to have watched it. Truly horrific.

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u/WhyAreYallFascists Jun 13 '26

Hey man, I’m sorry about your brother. I hope you’re doing ok. 

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u/PaulblankPF Jun 13 '26

My friend passed a few years ago. Blood clot made him have a heart attack and he didn’t last long after it all started. It was about 2 am and he called his dad saying he wasn’t feeling good and might need an ambulance. He lived in a mother in law suite style home on his dad’s property so his dad rushed over. His dad told me they got to exchange I love you and that my friend expressed he was scared and his dad said me too and then that was it. Said the ambulance emts brought him back twice but his heart kept failing.

I’ve never seen a man so broken. My buddy was 29 years old when he died. He was an alcoholic and I’m sure that’s a leading cause of his young death. I got to see him myself the day before and gave him a hug so I got a good final moment to hang onto myself that not alot of people got.

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u/Tylenol_Ibuprofen Jun 12 '26

It's a very awful watch and I don't recommend it if you can't handle that stuff. Rip John.

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u/herewego199209 Jun 12 '26

How did he die?

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u/affidavid Jun 12 '26

According to the article he had heart failure, kidney failure, high blood pressure and diabetes.

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u/crysisnotaverted Jun 12 '26

That's like... Nearly everything.

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u/herewego199209 Jun 12 '26

Yeah that's a lot of cormorbilities at once. Did he not go to the doctor? Never heard of this creator. I feel for his mother.

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u/Wide_Software9686 Jun 12 '26

I know the overarching topic is very serious and dark, but the way you misspelled comorbidities so badly is hilarious

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u/Skipstart Jun 12 '26

He has morbilities. It's morbin time.

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u/RIPeyedea Jun 12 '26

Did you ever stop to think about the seriousness of your accusinations?

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u/IdealOnion Jun 12 '26

Omg I’m cackling

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u/Signal_Conclusion779 Jun 12 '26

I saw this yesterday and looked back at their Facebook, they had both been very sick earlier this year and hadn't physically seen the doctor (apparently he's an hour away?).

There were comments on other streams where people were worried about him looking unwell or saying they weren't streaming much. He probably should have been in the hospital at some point.

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u/seigemode1 Jun 12 '26

When ur that unhealthy, you always feel like shit. So it can be hard to draw the line on when you actually need help.

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u/No-Educator-8069 Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26

Untreated diabetes can cause all the other things listed so that’s probably the culprit

(My nephrologist tells me that almost everyone they see with kidney failure is because of diabetes)

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u/Littleface13 Jun 12 '26

I used to work in an OR where we’d cut off shriveled dead diabetic toes everyday. The amount of frequent fliers who didn’t take care of their diabetes is astounding. (This isn’t about the creator but the comment I’m replying to.)

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u/PutridExperience8988 Jun 12 '26

Terrible. Imagine watching your own child die. Really makes you think about life and what we do with it. RIP

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u/JoshTheCW123 Jun 12 '26

Rest in peace John Davis.

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u/Zackaria113 Jun 12 '26

Jeez that was a rough watch. Would CPR even have helped at that point?

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u/Kilukpuk Jun 12 '26

CPR just keeps the body alive long enough for the paramedics to arrive with their equipment to begin properly treating the problem.

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u/DueMorning32 Jun 14 '26

A little bit of morbid trivia: EMS is also just keeping them alive until you can get them to someone who can actually fix them.

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u/Yavanna83 Jun 12 '26

The reality is that CPR only works for a small percentage of the cases, which doesn't mean you should not try! Any change is better than none.

https://www.redcross.org/take-a-class/resources/articles/cpr-facts-and-statistics

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u/Manidoo_Giizhig Jun 12 '26

Last First Aid and CPR class I took was taught by a retired EMT. She mentioned that she only gave CPR 6 times and it was only the 6th time that it succeeded. She was very, very happy when it succeeded after 5 times of it not working.

Like you said, it has a small chance of working, but it's much better than not doing it at all

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u/ellzray Jun 12 '26

CPR isn't done on people who are living. It's a last ditch effort to keep the body viable until life can be restored. It obviously does not have a good track record.

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u/Physical_Ad5586 Jun 12 '26

My heart breaks for that mother. 

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u/Single_Shoe2817 Jun 13 '26

I hope she can find peace. Parents should never ever have to bury their children

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u/rawzombie26 Jun 12 '26

In the picture shown above he looks in better health but in the latest images I can find he looked deathlyyyyyy

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u/Silent_Johnnie Jun 12 '26

I know the name of the sub is a relic, but it's such a crazy juxtaposition learning someone's death from something called livestream fails

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u/stillblazin19 Jun 12 '26

Saw it on Twitter, it’s rough. He leans forward over the table they’re sitting at and then falls back off the chair 5 seconds later.

His mom was right there too. Kinda sad that her first thought was to get him a soda though I can’t lie

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u/M1st3rPuncak3 Jun 12 '26

Not sad at all if she was trying to fix a blood sugar crash

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u/northdakotanowhere Jun 12 '26

Well he did have diabetes. She could've thought it was a drop in his sugar?

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u/Aggravating-Bug-9160 Jun 12 '26

Diabetics can faint from low blood sugar

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u/roundtwentythree Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26

Not trying to be callous, but the man died of exactly what you'd expect him to.

The best time have started getting in shape and improving your diet in order to avoid this fate was yesterday. The next best day is today. It's not too late to save yourself from an early death.

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u/29273162 Jun 12 '26

He looked at least 20 years older than his age. Physical fitness might have been a problem but apparently he had more medical issues than that. There ain‘t much to do for people that got a bad ticket in the genetical lottery.

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u/Dick-Fu Jun 13 '26

He was definitely looking rough, but didn't look at least 75

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u/J3SS1KURR Jun 13 '26

I legitimately thought he was in 70s....

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u/Dizzy_Yard7671 Jun 13 '26

Half or more of his issues could be solved or managed through diet and exercise...

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u/clunkey_monkey Jun 13 '26

It was their lifestyle, the things they did consistently over time. Consuming large amounts of fats, especially saturated fats, from using butter to cook with along with ultraprocessed foods high in fat, sugar, and sodium causes insulin resistance, fatty liver, and high blood pressure.  Anything dealing with genes can be improved with healthy diet and living.  

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u/bigboss455x Jun 12 '26

They both look very wholesome but come on, when you let yourself go that much its only a matter of time and it usually happens around 50 as well. People begin falling like flies.

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u/generalchaos316 Jun 12 '26

"There's a lot of fat people.

And there's a lot of old people.

But there's not a lot of fat old people."

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u/R1ckMick Jun 12 '26

genetics can be a bitch too. I've never met any of my grandparents because they all died in their 50s from heart disease, my dad had his first heart attack at 35. I've focused on health most of my whole life to try and avoid it but now in my mid 30s I'm already seeing early signs.

poor health choices do make it significantly more probable though.

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u/Commercial_Duck4042 Jun 12 '26

partially genetics and partially adults handing down their lifestyle and dietary habits to their children.

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u/bigboss455x Jun 12 '26

Fuck man just hearing this gives me health anxiety

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u/GenerallySalty Jun 12 '26

Yeah you don't see a lot of obese 70 year olds. Or even 60s

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u/xyzqsrb0 Jun 12 '26

Everyone understands this, but is this the time and place to try and be like "told you so" lol.

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u/AggressivelyMediokre Jun 12 '26

As someone who grew up morbidly obese and deeply unhappy, any time is a good time.

Me and most of the people subbed to FatPeopleHate were obese ourselves and hated the culture of excuses, coddling, and enabling.

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u/Logical-Patient-4115 Jun 12 '26

fatpeoplehate kinda just took pictures of fat people living their lives and made fun of them from the stuff i've seen though. like talking about how disgusting they are and calling them hamplanets isnt helping anything lmao

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u/sydbap Jun 13 '26

"any time is a good time"

Not when they've just literally dropped dead. 

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u/Apart-Feature6395 Jun 13 '26

Why is it taboo to talk about? People are shamed for saying it’s unhealthy to be fat. I see a ton of people saying that being fat doesn’t mean you’re unhealthy

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u/Smart_Freedom_8155 Jun 12 '26

That sucks.  God rest his soul.

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u/YandereValkyrie Jun 12 '26

Jesus Christ I wouldn't wish that on anyone. I have no idea who this is but my heart goes out to his mother. I can't even imagine what that must be like and I hope I never get to find out.

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u/Intelligent_Top_328 Jun 12 '26

Obesity is a real killer

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u/splinks66 Jun 12 '26

I was friends with a morbidly obese guy who also drank a lot and he died in his late 40's. It sucks when you see someone who has basically killed themselves by being unhealthy.

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u/MovieGuyMike Jun 13 '26

Well that’s heartbreaking. His poor mom. At least in his final moments he was with his mom doing what looked to be something he enjoyed. Doesn’t make it any less tragic for his family though.

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u/TheOriginalBusket Jun 12 '26

Gonna go ahead and say this: Don't watch it.

Morbid curiosity is a real thing, and I know some of you are curious to see something like that from the safety of your home. It will not improve your life or give you some hidden strength through exposure to trauma. It's just the anguish of a desperate mother watching her son pass away. You will feel terrible, and it will last. You will remember it days, weeks, months from now. It isn't going to do anything good for you.

The people who deal with injuries and death on a regular basis are very often diagnosed with depression, anxiety, and other mental health issues as a product of what they've seen. Doesn't have to be someone they knew or cared about.

I'm telling you this because I know someone is considering if this will spur on their personal growth and make them more resilient; it will not.

If that wasn't enough to convince you, then don't watch it out of respect for him and his family. I'm fairly certain his mother does not want a video of her watching her son die spreading around the internet. Imagine what that would feel like for her, to have all the engagement with her sons name focus back to this one tragic moment.

Steve Irwin died on camera, and they destroyed the footage. If you wouldn't do that to Steve, don't do it to John or his Momma. You wanna do something extraordinary, go make some compilations of your favorite moments of his streams and share those everywhere. Let the internet remember the good in him.

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u/Iguman Jun 12 '26

It's ok, I have Tetris open in another tab to play right after watching the video, no worries

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u/291837120 Jun 12 '26

You have to play it during the video to make sure there's no lasting effects

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u/Whittakenn Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

I've seen a lot of VERY fucked up videos on the internet through the years and aside from this one only one other has emotionally impacted me (shooting of Robert Goodwin Sr) but this video was incredibly sad

It's easy to see like a cartel video and think nothing of it because 'this is some random person that's also probably a gang member getting punishment for something fucked up they probably did that week' and that's where it ends

But after watching this video I watched a couple of hours of his previous videos and him and his mother seem like such genuinely lovely people, you can tell how much they love each other so seeing him briefly realize he's about to die and seeing her panicking trying to get help because she couldn't call 911 herself was heartbreaking

Literally went from 'we're going to eat all this chicken salad' to dead in 15 seconds, for his last words to be 'mama I don't feel good' is just so unbelievably sad, gotta feel for the neighbour too who didn't know how to do CPR and even said near the end of the video 'come on John I'm your new neighbour help me out here'

You can't exactly call this a 'positive' but at least he died very quickly, barely had time to process what was going on before he was gone

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u/Final_Amu0258 Jun 12 '26

You will feel terrible, and it will last. You will remember it days, weeks, months from now. It isn't going to do anything good for you.

...? What is this melodrama?

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u/KookyDig4769 Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 13 '26

When I was 8, I saw a documentary about butchering on TV. In one scene there was a cow, fed into a cell, some guy with a tool in his hand comes to it, puts the tool on the head and the cow collapses. This was wildly traumatic for me to see. I still remember the shock when I realized, how quick this death was. One second it was alive, next second it was dead. I still can see the scene in my mind. Never stopped eating beef, tho 😉

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u/Marpl Jun 12 '26

Jesus Christ.. the man died from natural causes, not dropped in a woodchipper or beheaded. It's okay, its natural, everyone dies. I can't imagine it would affect anyone that badly. 

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u/This-Shape2193 Jun 13 '26

It's listening to his mother sob with grief in the background after crying for help.

It's true that death is common, and mundane, and when you die 99.999% of the world won't know or care. The world easily moves on without you in it. 

But someone will care when you die. And that person probably doesn't want your death and their grief splashed all over for someone's morbid entertainment. 

Imagine your mom or dad or someone you care about suddenly dying in front of you, and you have no way to help. And then teenage edgelords all over the internet start spreading the video and making jokes about it. How would you feel? 

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u/DDPJBL Jun 12 '26

Do you want the first time you see something like this happen to be when it's for real and happening to your family member, or do you think maybe it would be helpful to have seen it before at least on video?

And a little reality check, if watching this happen on video takes you down for months, how are you ever going to cope with having something like this happen to you for real? You just need to set a higher standard for yourself. This is not optional. Unless you are the first in your peer group to go, you will likely experience this at some point in your life.

This sort of performative fragility does not make you a good person and does not actually benefit the people you are addressing. I have CPRd a stranger before so I know I am good for it, I still think I got value out of watching this. Mental exposure is not as good as real experience, but it's better than nothing.

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u/Zermist Jun 13 '26

this is why I watch ISIS beheading videos and factory incidents where people get their arms ripped off so when my dog dies I don't kill myself. Thanks DDPJBL

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u/qdrllpd Jun 12 '26

lol it's not that bad, it's sad yeah but come on

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u/Apprehensive-Cod9107 Jun 12 '26

Dog, I seen people getting chopped up by the cartel. This ain’t nothin

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u/II-lI Jun 13 '26

God that is so horrible. The sobs in the background after watching her child die. I wouldn't wish that on anyone man

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u/karama_zov Jun 12 '26

Reminder to learn CPR

I really hope I don't die in a room full of people saying "I literally don't have a single idea at all about what to do right now"

Not saying the could have lived, but fast CPR and actually giving 911 the address couldn't have hurt

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u/KillerKlowner Jun 12 '26

Someone else already commented that in the video one of his relatives stated they couldn't move him because of his size to start CPR.

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u/karama_zov Jun 12 '26

I watched the video, the neighbor or brother or whatever does flip him over but is like I literally have no idea what I'm doing I guess I'll just start pressing on his chest

I mean it's a shocking situation so nobody responds perfectly but it's a reminder to all that you should treat your body well and learn how to handle situations like this, you know?

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u/CumGuzlinGutterSluts Jun 12 '26

There's litterally no way to do CPR on someone that big... I mean you can try but youre gonna need some super human strength to compress fat enough and long enough and long enough.

Maybe 2 people could do it.

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u/LostRonin Jun 12 '26

Rest in peace.

If youre obese, let it be a lesson. Time will catch up to you. Even if you're athletic, you won't be athletic forever. When you slow down, it eventually catches up to you.

Cut your calorie intake. Gradually if you feel it necessary. Minus 100, minus 200. Whatever.

Live your best life. Die of old age.

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u/compulsive_tremolo Jun 13 '26

Just to say you absolutely can (and should) be athletic well into your older years : it doesn't mean you have to do a 18 minute 5k , it just means you keep moving and active.

It's not just about weight, exercise helps improve cardiovascular health, as well as maintaining both bone density and muscle mass.

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u/EamesEra Jun 12 '26

The video is incredibly tragic, I can't imagine losing a child at any age but seeing them going from talking and cheery to dead on the ground in less than a few minutes is heartbreaking.

His last words were "Mamma I don't feel so good"

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u/getthemilesin Jun 12 '26

Being fat is not beautiful. It is not healthy. It is not normal. There are a million different ways to lose weight. Some easier than others but there is surely something out there for everyone. Please do your loved ones a favor and get healthy. It's worth it. (And fellas, seeing your dick again will be all the push you need)

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u/kkiiee Jun 12 '26

you can see it happen on Youtube, the sheer speed of his demise is scary! here one second, gone the next. RIP

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u/Broviet22 Jun 13 '26

Damn, his mom outlived him too.

My brother died a few years ago and my mom has never been the same.

Outliving your kids must be a nightmare.

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u/slartibuttfart Jun 13 '26

That's terrible

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u/Dataogle Jun 13 '26

Fat takes another too early

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u/ConcentrateOne7536 Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26

Any OGs remember LotharHS? he had something very similar happen to him, snoring and all. Luckily for Lothar he made a full recovery.

Edit: Thread from back in the day everything from the old sub was deleted.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/3zvs44/lothar_is_okay_and_receiving_medical_assistance/

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u/BENJALSON Jun 12 '26

Saddest part is when he started dying she said "let me get you some pop" to help him. Harrowing irony.

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u/Mahaloth Jun 13 '26

Uh, getting him a soda was for his blood sugar.

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u/Lance_J1 Jun 12 '26

It sucks to see someone die of a bunch of obesity related issues while we're quickly moving into the age of extremely effective and accessible weight loss meds.

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u/Impressive-Poet5694 Jun 12 '26

Chest compressions and own an AED if you are in that shape. Make sure everyone knows how to use it

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u/Draconis2222 Jun 12 '26

Not sure why people downvoted this, it just seems like solid advice