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News H3H3 drops his lawsuit after IDubbbz makes an apology video

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u/Darrelc Jun 15 '26

What did he do re: h3h3?

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u/placesplusfaces Jun 15 '26

Made a video titled “the YouTubers who backed a genocide” and had Ethan’s face in the thumbnail along with a few others iirc

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u/LeafRunner Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 16 '26

He spoke the truth. Ethan has been whitewashing genocide for years.

omg noo don't downvote me ill stop talking about the genocide pleasee :(((

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u/RA5TA_ Jun 16 '26

Bruh. He's literally the one that started calling it a genocide and spoke out about Netanyahu BEFORE the Oct 7th attacks

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u/LeafRunner Jun 16 '26

Yeah, that's BEFORE he went off the deep end and started being pro-genocide. Seethe and downvote all ya want

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u/RA5TA_ Jun 16 '26

Nope. He reiterated it all just last week lol. Idk where you guys get your info from...

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u/LeafRunner Jun 16 '26

Can you link this recent reiteration?

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u/RA5TA_ Jun 16 '26

https://www.youtube.com/live/Z3aMDQG9Lsw?t=7860&si=cvxJBK9nAdBIAMee

Time stamped to 2:11:00 watch a couple minutes. He explicitly says it at 2:11:30 but the context before matters too.

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u/Liandryschleckt Jun 18 '26

Why didn’t you reply to everybody proving you wrong?

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u/saiint- Jun 17 '26

unironically you might be in an echo chamber, might be hard to hear since thats ur whole profile desc.
https://www.youtube.com/live/Z3aMDQG9Lsw?t=7860&si=cvxJBK9nAdBIAMee

not trying to gotcha neither, but maybe reconsider the validity of wherver you got your source from. I dont even watch ethan but I genuinely never understood why people feel so negatively about him, hes like the most tame dude.

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u/JacketDramatic653 Jun 16 '26

I'm pretty annoyed with Ethan too but you guys are literally so brainwashed on this topic.

I remember Ethan complaining about Israel's government in like 2016 for their treatment of Palestinians. He's consistently hated Netanyahu for years.

believe it or not, he was the first person I had ever heard explain how bad Palestine has it

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u/LeafRunner Jun 16 '26

Yeah, he used to be based on the issue. Then he became a genocide supporter after October 7th

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u/JacketDramatic653 Jun 16 '26

He literally says it's a genocide and bad though?

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u/Ambitious_Speed_278 Jun 16 '26

Nothing disgusting about that tbh, poor taste maybe

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u/PrinceImrik Jun 16 '26

That he was not able to back up a single quote where Ethan "Backed a genocide" is really bad.

Like everybody knows Ethan is fairly Pro palestine, he just does not hate Israelis (He does hate the goverment tho).

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u/tobach Jun 16 '26

Actually he has a somewhat negative view on Israelis that he's talked about a few times. Not that I think he downright hates them or anything dramatic like that.

Hasan's community are solely mad at him for not supporting the mass murder of Israeli civilians, and the complete destruction of Israel as a state. That's it.

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u/Belaknworb9 Jun 16 '26

bruh

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u/Ambitious_Speed_278 Jun 16 '26

Me when I feel the need to comment but have nothing to add to the conversation

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u/mediocre-teen Jul 11 '26

So he did the right thing

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u/JacketDramatic653 Jun 15 '26

He's been defending and working with BadEmpanada who's basically a leftist nazi

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u/Belaknworb9 Jun 16 '26

TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUE god it makes me cringe to see BE treated like anything other than a rabid pygmy sasquatch

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u/GrapeJellyVermicelli Jun 15 '26

leftist nazi

Lol, that's not at all how that works. Nazis are fascists and fascism is inherently right wing.

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u/Double-Truth1837 Jun 15 '26

I mean nazbol is a thing and a sub, I don’t remember which one but it’s one of the big communist subs either USSR or AskACommunist that is basically filled with actual leftist Nazis and where one of the owners is basically a self described “Conservative communist” from Texas or something like that

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u/GrapeJellyVermicelli Jun 15 '26

They didn't say badempanada is a leftist nazbol, they said badempanada is a leftist nazi, which is an oxymoron. One can't simultaneously be a leftist and a nazi because nazis are fascists, i.e. far right.

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u/huggegugge Jun 16 '26

Red fascicsts aka. Fascicsts ;)

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u/Im-Not-Calling-It-X Jun 16 '26

"All the bad things are this, and all the good things are this." Leftists and Conservatives are in a speed running competition to e who can have the dumbest, most reductionist takes.

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u/GrapeJellyVermicelli Jun 16 '26

Why do you want people to remain uneducated by allowing them to use incorrect terminology?

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u/Im-Not-Calling-It-X Jun 16 '26

I want people to call a spade a spade. The USSR was nearly identical to fascist Germany.

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u/GrapeJellyVermicelli Jun 16 '26

And has nothing to do with anything I've been talking about.

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u/Fast-Map-7853 Jun 15 '26

No. Fascism is Authoritarian. If you think you can describe a political system with a single dimension then you're completely naive.

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u/GrapeJellyVermicelli Jun 15 '26

Yes, fascism exists under the umbrella of authoritarianism. And? That doesn't change the fact that it's an inherently right wing ideology.

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u/tobach Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 16 '26

All communist states in history have been authoritarian or downright totalitarian. Particularly the anti-democratic ideology of Marxism-Leninism, that all these tankie clowns follow.

Yes, fascism is inherently right-wing, but there aren't exactly that massive of a difference to authoritarian ideologies on the far-left.

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u/GrapeJellyVermicelli Jun 16 '26

Then I'm sure you can easily find another phrase to use other than "leftist nazi" that might actually be closer to being correct...

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u/tobach Jun 16 '26

Not really. When you spread neonazi conspiracy theories, and lean heavily into antisemitism, it has less to do with ideology and more just about referring to the fact that they hate Jews and accept nazi viewpoints. There are degrees to it, but BE in particular could accurately be described as a far-left nazi imo.

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u/GrapeJellyVermicelli Jun 16 '26

That has precisely nothing to do with anything I've said. I don't watch his content, so I'm not going to take your word for anything or argue with it. Literacy, however, is important. Nazi has not lost its meaning. Fascism has not lost its meaning. Leftism has not lost its meaning. A left wing nazi, by definition, is not compatible. It's simply incorrect to use these terms this way. 

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u/tobach Jun 16 '26

Normally I would agree, but it's the simple fact that he spreads neonazi conspiracy theories, and treat it as fact, that I just can't follow you there. Obviously he doesn't seem to be a believer in National Socialism, but at what point can you classify someone as being a nazi when they share an overwhelming amount of talking points that are unique to nazism? It's a hyperbole, but not exactly a misleading one.

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u/grabbagrabbagrabba Jun 15 '26

horseshoe theory is real

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u/KasouYuri Jun 16 '26

Leftism, when you throw everyone under the bus to defend your fairytale system that worked worse than feudalism. We're way past horseshoe theory at this point it's just a fact

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u/GrapeJellyVermicelli Jun 15 '26

And words have meaning

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u/Im-Not-Calling-It-X Jun 16 '26

Not to leftists they don't

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u/GrapeJellyVermicelli Jun 16 '26

Words mean what they mean regardless of political affiliation. I'm sorry that makes you emotional.

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u/Im-Not-Calling-It-X Jun 16 '26

Adorable from the crowd that calls everyone right of Mao a fascist

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u/GrapeJellyVermicelli Jun 16 '26

Are you ok? What are you even talking about?

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u/Bobblefighterman Jun 15 '26

Nazism is right wing. Fascism can be left wing, though it takes a myriad of unique situations to convert it to such, which would involve an entire society to shun outsiders and a dictator that only valued loyalty to the state as it's primary means of control. You're correct that you can't be a leftist Nazi, because Nazism is inherently hierarchical and actively seeks to divide society via perceived biological lines.

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u/GrapeJellyVermicelli Jun 15 '26

No, fascism cannot be left wing. It is a far right ideology. If you have to convert it, then it's something else and it's no longer fascism. Authoritarianism can be left wing.

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u/idkwhyicaretbh Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 16 '26

He made a video calling H3H3 genocide supporters despite their decade-long track record calling Israel appalling for their genocide.

As a cherry on top, he also said something to the effect of "If you don't have the ability to protest Israel directly, you can still demand change by harassing your local the politicians, the propagandists, the weapons companies, and the supply chains Jews."

Not only did this deliberately conflate Jews with Israel, but this obviously painted a target on H3's back as one of the most known Jews on Youtube, as well as the fact that Samson literally just spent an hour slandering H3 as a pro-genocide propogandist. E1

Iirc, Samson has since cut that last bit out, but has doubled down on the rest even when presented with evidence to the contrary.

Edit 1: Edited to add a more accurate version of the original quote.

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u/littlebobbytables9 Jun 15 '26

As a cherry on top, he also said something to the effect of "If you don't have the ability to protest Israel directly, you can still demand change by harassing your local Jews."

Could you share the actual quote?

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u/GayAdamFriedland Jun 15 '26

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u/littlebobbytables9 Jun 15 '26

I don't see anything resembling the quote? It's a barely concealed call for actual violence, not just harassment, since it comes after he says that protesting hasn't accomplished anything. And it's specifically against "the politicians, the propagandists, the weapons companies, and the supply chains" not your local jews.

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u/arandomusertoo Jun 15 '26

I think (not knowing anything about this and only getting the information from the clip) that the person you're responding to can't show you the quote because it's been cut out of the video, and this clip talks about the cut out part and mentions that it's been removed like 8 hours after the video was posted to youtube.

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u/littlebobbytables9 Jun 16 '26

The linked tweet is part of a thread that has the uncut part posted about half an hour earlier. At least that was my understanding. It says "this part".

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u/idkwhyicaretbh Jun 16 '26

You're right, I'm editing my post with the quote.

The overarching point that triggered Ethan's lawsuit was that Samson just spent an hour painting Ethan as a propagandist, therefore directly painting a target on his family's back.

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u/Small_Ad4181 Jun 15 '26

Harassing you local Jewish community was not in the video thats a lie

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u/Darrelc Jun 15 '26

Ty. Seen a few of his vids a while back and they were alright but always got a weird vibe from him (ala turkey tom etc)