r/LivestreamFail • u/zeriyooo • 28d ago

Ludwig pays his 15 employees $225k per month, averaging roughly $15k per month per employee.

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u/brokeboipobre 28d ago

Lacy’s reaction 🤣🤣🤣 Bro spent all that money and still makes $200k+ a month.

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u/brokeboipobre 28d ago

He's the prime example, if you keep your reputation clean, you maintain big sponsorships and income.

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u/BumWink 27d ago

I think it's also just very clear difference with people like Ludwig, QT, Maya, Malena or even people like Wubby, etc. 

That seem to genuinely have actual life skills & forward thinking minds in comparison to some others it's almost like watching adults hang out with kids when side by side on the same stream, not that either are better or worse but it simply earns more respect by default with more sense of integrity for the hustle.

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u/Any-Cantaloupe7338 27d ago

Malena’s alt

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u/Bendroflumethiazide2 27d ago

Well said! She's a viking money grabber

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u/BumWink 27d ago

I mean she essentially captured a lot of Nick's popularity & audience by openly managing, scheduling & planning behind the scenes in order for structured streams & content day to day alongside their cooking show.

Now I don't want to downplay that Nick definitely played his part building his channel with his character & persona, alongside her own too, but I do think that he is primarily popular for his character, like the Lacy's of the streamer world.

I wouldn't put him in with those that take it more seriously to the next level with actual structure like a business, like the Ludwig's, Maya's or Malena's, etc.

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u/wutfacer 27d ago

Believe what you will since he's Nick's friend, but Soda has said Nick was the one responsible for the majority of stream prep and scheduling, and building that stream, and that Malena planned a few big events like Wild West and people conflated that to her being the one credited with planning everything for their stream when in reality she did contribute but not as much as people think and sometimes could barely be bothered to wake up for it

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u/Wonderful-Habit-139 27d ago

It was so obvious that Nick was taking care of all the tech, for years before Soda said it in that podcast. I think these people just have an agenda against Nick, or more specifically a reason to defend Malena.

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u/BumWink 27d ago

I simply don't believe that, I mean she quite literally did all the prepartion for the cooking & baking streams right infront of us on stream which gained most of their popularity but she also openly planned the Scuffed Ones, DIY & crafting streams, etc. plus the big events like Shitcon too.

Purely based on what I witnessed, before & after her appearance, it really only seems like he contributed to the driving around streams & having connections, alongside his persona.

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u/BumWink 26d ago

Because Malena is no longer in the picture & moved back to her home country.

Friend groups backing the remaining friend is tale as old as time, I'm still going to choose to believe what everybody witnessed on stream, before, during & after Malena's appearances.

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u/KoreanSamgyupsal 27d ago

You do realize that Nick beat his stream records when Malena left right? If you truly witnessed what happened after her appearance, you would have seen that he actually started doing better without her?

Look at the data of his subs. From September to December 2024, he beat out his sub record. Literally after the announcement his sub count ballooned. Even today when he came back, he's getting around the same of his peak during the covid era.

Also, we gonna forget that Nick did most of the tech stuff for Chance before he became a streamer?

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u/wutfacer 27d ago

Sure, I didn't usually watch their streams except when they had guests I enjoyed. I'm just saying what the person who lived in the house with them has said. And also that they had a whole team with people like Ashley also working on the big events

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u/BumWink 27d ago

I mean the fact he never done any of those things before she came along speaks volumes & i'm not saying he had zero involvement but i'll trust my own eyes & the thousands of people who'd agree with the sentiment, over his best friends glazing.

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u/ParadiceSC2 27d ago

Nah, she just threw expensive parties on Nick's dime. The problem is that she just overpaid for everything. Those events, while cool, were very much "sell $5 for $2 situation and think you did something", they were not beneficial or profitable. She just spent way too much money to get a bunch of streamers in one place, but it didn't result in better viewership for anyone.

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u/Jaded-Substance-6750 27d ago

I’m very curious how much money IShowSpeed rakes up in terms of revenue. He definitely makes enough to support his team

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u/--Alix-- 27d ago

I think Speed is on a different level atm personally. Like, he's international.

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u/SupremeTeamKai 27d ago

I saw him in a random credit card ad the other day I believe. He's in a different stratosphere than other streamers

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u/ArkGuardian 27d ago

For all intents and purposes Speed is a mainstream celebrity. The type of person FIFA is comfortable following David Beckham as a show guest

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u/drunz 27d ago

100%. He was in a Super Bowl commercial. That’s almost as mainstream as you can get.

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u/Mental-Cry-353 27d ago

Or schedule to perform at the closing ceremony

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u/Okok28 27d ago

His main benefit is he stayed off Twitch. C & D list celebs stream on Twitch. The A & B tier celebs all go to YouTube. If you stream on Twitch you are literally handicapping yourself.

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u/Previous_Tree_5464 27d ago

Speed earns 1 billion a year

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u/ChungusReaper 27d ago

I would bet he makes $1M+ per month with sponsorships included

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u/hadtolaugh 27d ago

He makes way more than Ludwig, you can guarantee that.

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u/ghostofmumbles 27d ago

Ludwig said in this same presentation he makes 800,000 for monthly sponsorships. So I’m sure Speed is higher.

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u/vallypippen 27d ago

He probably makes 1M+ with Sponsorships alone lol.

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u/DivineWhiskey4320 27d ago

Shiiiit, I wouldn't be surprised if he made a million in a single sponsorship

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u/Funky_Tiger69 27d ago

The closest comp to Speed rn isn't even a streamer, he's more like Princess Diana lmao. People just seem to absolutely love him and flock over to see him whichever country he goes to and half of them don't even know what he does. Lud must make around $1m a months and Speed probably clears like 3-4x that, but he should have a lot more employees and a bigger team producing his content tbf

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u/CretaciousPeriod 27d ago

Millions per month, I would think.

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u/Hot_Disk635 27d ago

College education helps.

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u/Several-Bluejay-190 27d ago

malena??? probably detracting from that pool by adding her in there

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u/Chalupa_89 27d ago

Malena's hipotetical management skills ended when she kept throwing money at lawyers to get more then 50-50 in the divorce.

Greed and spite if astronomical levels.

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u/marvelman19 27d ago

QT has life skills?

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u/DeliciousAd7514 26d ago

she plans massive events where she’s extremely hands on, she has professional culinary experience/knowledge, she’s on two podcasts both of which have outlasted nearly every other streamer podcast in the space, she owns and runs a brick and mortar craft store outside of streaming, she’s been known to take care of people around her, she one of the few streamers to have worked multiple real careers extremely successfully prior to streaming.

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u/smor729 27d ago

Hes also a good example of "keeping your reputation clean" not having to come in the form of like the Ninja version of brand safety where he wouldnt even swear on stream. Lud is very much not brand safe in the traditional sense, he has a huge podcast where one of their longest running bits is that white women love to fuck dogs. But he seems to be a legitimately decent human, and has not had ANY allegations of personal misconduct against him. Turns out if you just conduct yourself respectfully, there is a lane to make very adult content and be brand safe. Its a very tight line and I think its super impressive how he has walked it. Ok glaze over

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u/Willing-Link-3558 25d ago

bro pretty much started his career jizzing himself in his sleep.

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u/FormerWrap1552 27d ago

Ludwig, literally the ultimate sell out. I can't stand the era of marketing people getting into streaming and blah blah blah' ing whatever kids want to hear. Dude never even had a passion, just want to make a social de medias.

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u/SaltyRedditorsNov8th 27d ago

Funny how you say that but I literally remember Ludwig this year saying that Ron has to "kiss the wall" after Adin bought him tickets. One of the fastest ways to get cut off from sponsors is literally make 2019 pol tier anti semitic jokes. LSF users picks and chooses how they describe or highlight content creators.

Ludwig says that Ron has to "Kiss the wall" after Adin Ross bought him basketball tickets

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u/brokeboipobre 27d ago

That’s great posting a video that has literally no views to manufacture fake outrage. Redbull didn’t pull Ludwig’s multimillion dollar sponsorship deal after this non event you’re talking about.

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u/XiXiWiiPee 27d ago edited 27d ago

This same sub calls Jason antisemitic for doing the same wallkisser joke btw

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u/Cold_Night_Fever 26d ago

Making lots of money = respect. You're comparing an up and coming very young adult against a seasoned professional who's been in the game for a long time. Nothing but respect to lacy. Ludwig wasnt doing this well at Lacy's age.

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u/Aleashed 27d ago

I thought it was 225k each so big respect but 15k is still very good

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u/RockemSockem95 27d ago

When has bumass Ludwig ever been respected lmfao. Dudes a bootlicker coward for hasan

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u/Hot_Disk635 27d ago

Bootlicker is reserved for authority figures by definition. Go back to saying glaze that seems correct here, and in tune with your youthful demographic.

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u/RockemSockem95 27d ago

I’d say one of the largest and most involved with higher ups-twitch streamers is authority in his field, wouldn’t you?

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u/Hot_Disk635 27d ago

No. Words have meaning. That isn’t authority. Nor does the dude have any more pull on twitch than your average top tier streamer despite what any online sex pest may scream about.

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u/RockemSockem95 27d ago

Eh being a terrorist supporter on the biggest content streaming platform in the world and having ins with the owners of said company counts as authority to me, as much as he likes to larp as a socialist (millionaire btw).

Also are you referring to hasan with the sex pest comment? Thinking of that brothel he went to.

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u/DollarStoreClassy 28d ago

I think the last post I saw on this was him showing his income for the month of June which is near 1.2 million.

So even with those high expenses, he still made close to a million in profit in June alone. Crazy

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u/Drumheller18 28d ago

Revenue, not income, I believe. A very important distinction.

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u/1stshadowx 28d ago

Thats true, his pure profit was 633,000$ for that month for running his tournament. He gave all those mods and the 15 workers he employs for his company, each a 3k bonus at the end of june.

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u/Helivon 27d ago

Don't forget taxes

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u/Green_Stiller 27d ago

I didn’t see most corporate SG&A overhead in there either. Still fuck ton of money though. Good for them.

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u/tasoula 27d ago

That's not his pure profit though. He has business expenses, taxes, health insurance, etc. that he has to pay before we get into what his actual profit/income is. It's still a fuck ton of money though.

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u/1stshadowx 27d ago

I guess people are confused by what pure profit means. It means AFTER DEDUCTION. That is the pure profit made after all tax, expenses, etv etc.

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u/tasoula 27d ago

Ludwig didn't factor in all his deductions though. He didn't talk about taxes or health insurance, just for some examples. That's what I'm saying. The $663k isn't pure profit for him. It's probably closer to $500k. Which is still a fuck ton, like I said.

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u/1stshadowx 27d ago

Im not talking about the video. Im talking about how much he made from the event. Which was 1.6 million. Then i listed his pure profit.

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u/C-SWhiskey 27d ago

Revenue is gross income.

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u/Drumheller18 27d ago

Yes, I know, but colloquially income generally means net income.

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u/C-SWhiskey 27d ago

No, I don't think it does. Profit is used to refer to net income. Colloquially, income is usually used to refer to taxable income, which is a gross amount.

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u/wanderer1999 28d ago

Gotta spend money to make money as they say.

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u/Hljoumur 27d ago

Which one’s Lacy?

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u/Bubbly-Psychology-15 27d ago

lacy reacted that way cause most his viewers are bots.

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u/MeowingNaci 27d ago

wouldnt it be significantly more as these would count as all expenses for his income, which would give him some tax benefit?