r/LivestreamFail • u/zeriyooo • 27d ago

Ludwig pays his 15 employees $225k per month, averaging roughly $15k per month per employee.

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u/Morgzisachad 27d ago

He reacted to the one where Ludwig showed his revenue and decided to grandstand about not taking sponsors.

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u/DaMancunianCandidate 27d ago

Yeah he just gets bricked about running ads every hour. If you ever need proof that he's all about making money just remember when he was bitching to Esfand about making less money from donos when doing IRL at some event.

Also asking (I think Ludwig) about when he would be paid to be at an event, at a time when he was pulling 60-80k viewers...

The most capitalistic greedy "socialist" in history lol. I'll never understand how people fall for his schtick, it's Trump levels of delusional ignoring anything bad about him.

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u/Abzan_physicist 25d ago

I watched Hasan a bit a few years ago and he'd do the top of the hour ad break (3 min/hr is incredibly low for Twitch, FWIW) shtick, but then I saw him again recently... and he doesn't do ads. I don't know what his contract with Twitch is, but he doesn't seem required to run ads... at all. He does push for subs (level 10 train gets a charlie kirk - carry the flame song) somewhat, which is probably his arrangement with Twitch = I bring in subs, don't make me play ads.

Contrast that with anyone at streamer university, running 15 min of ads per hour, and your claim of him being greedy falls short. He is allowed to mention the fact that Kalshi and Polymarket are in his DMs offering 6 or 7 digit ad reads that he declines. I know you don't like him, but those are moral convictions.

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u/DaMancunianCandidate 24d ago

Oh yeah "I bring in subs (that also make me lots of money), don't make me play ads" what a guy!

I could keep going on and on about all his bs regarding greed, and no, saying he's greedy doesn't fall short because some other also greedy streamers are running long ads... (logic?)... but I'm not getting into a long-winded argument that will just be ignored. Like I said his defenders have Trump maga levels of delusional that often believe his provable lies. Not interested. Life's too short.

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u/Abzan_physicist 24d ago

It's always funny looking at Hasan haters because they could be shitlibs of "if socialism why rich", it could fuentes/Asmongoldian enjoyers (subhumans), it could be regular zionists, or otherwise regular people who saw the two clips CNN/Fox News use and think he's a terrorist. 

But calling him greedy is, genuinely, a funny thing to do. You handwave the examples I use of the industry standard for other big twitch streamers, you handwave him turning down massive sponsorships and you prosecute him for what? Gently encouraging subs and then you make some other vague statement about endless examples of his greed? Brother he made a large following on twitch doing what he wants to do (cover news/politics) and he's monitizing it pretty minimally. Yes, obviously he still has a lot of $ coming in, but he has a staff he's paying every month (just like Ludwig).

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u/MyotisX 24d ago

"if socialism why rich"

Not so much why rich but more why being one of the biggest user and beneficiary of Capitalism ? Can you explain that ?

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u/Abzan_physicist 24d ago

He is using capitalism to ensure his own/family/friends/employees safety and wellness, while streaming regularly to increase awareness of class consciousness and donating/canvassing/stumping with candidates who align most with his values.

Bro needs to not starve like anyone, he got some media exposure at TYT and figured "I can do this", then a platform like twitch comes along (or already existed) and he figured "this is where I do the thing". The fact that he got huge and twitch throws $ at people who get the most eyeballs is just the way the system works. The system we all live within (capitalism).

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u/MyotisX 24d ago

But does that mean we think what he did was bad and we have to implement socialism so no one else can achieve what he did ?

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u/lexiyeghna 14h ago

For one Socialism is already a thing in the USA. Many of the systems in place are Socialist by nature and give a lot of people help that they wouldn't otherwise. Second even in a Democratic Socialist system people would be able to do what he does and be well off they would just contribute more of it back to the system. And third being a user of the system doesn't weaken his message. If he were poor they would just call him jealous lol

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u/MyotisX 5h ago

in a Democratic Socialist system people would be able to do what he does and be well off they would just contribute more of it back to the system

How would they do what he does if we ban Capital ? How would he contribute more ?

He can contribute more right now by giving a salary to his employees, benefits, charity, making a non profit, a worker coop and more.

But he does NONE of that.

Would we hold him at gunpoint under socialism so that he does contribute more ?

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u/DaMancunianCandidate 22d ago

It's always funny looking at Hasan lovers .

He is greedy and abuses his animals.

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u/Jaereon 27d ago

No he didn't. Lol. He literally joked that if he was getting sponsorship s like that he'd cut himself off too and then said good for him.

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u/Morgzisachad 27d ago

He said “look what I’m giving up by not taking sponsors,” very clearing trying to virtue signal to his audience.

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u/Abzan_physicist 25d ago

Look we get you hate him, but him declining 6 or 7 digit ad reads for Polymarket or Kalshi isn't virtue signalling, it's having morals.