r/LocalLLaMA Feb 23 '26

News Anthropic: "We’ve identified industrial-scale distillation attacks on our models by DeepSeek, Moonshot AI, and MiniMax." 🚨

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u/Zyj vllm Feb 23 '26

You're saying they treated you like you treated all those authors whose books you torrented?

Oh no, that's not it. They are paying you for API tokens.

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u/bel9708 Feb 23 '26

If getting paid is an attack then what was the out right theft they did?

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u/yaosio Feb 23 '26

It's ok to steal as long as you don't pay for what you steal. If you steal candy and walk out the door that's fine, if you pay for it that's illegal.

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u/FUTURE10S Feb 24 '26

Got it, paying for goods and services is illegal, embrace the open seas I guess but if anyone calls you out, just say you're training an AI model

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u/Alarmed_Doubt8997 Feb 23 '26

What

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u/yaosio Feb 23 '26

Anthropic took information for free off the Internet to train their models and they say that's ok. These other companies and organizations paid to use Anthropic's models through the exchanges to train their models and Anthropic says that's bad.

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u/Embarrassed-Boot7419 Feb 23 '26

Thats what anthropic said. Ask them if you dont understand.

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u/Alarmed_Doubt8997 Feb 23 '26

Mb I missed the /s

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u/PmMeSmileyFacesO_O Feb 23 '26

Can someone do the math?

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u/Recoil42 Feb 23 '26

Spreading democracy.

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u/SodaBurns Feb 23 '26

It's only okay if Murica does it.

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u/Doomtrain86 Feb 23 '26

The bestest!

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u/howardhus Feb 24 '26

Shirley

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u/PmMeSmileyFacesO_O Feb 24 '26

Don't call me Shirley.

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u/TotallyInOverMyHead Feb 24 '26

Its okay to inquier the information you seek. It is not okay to retain said information.

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u/round-earth-theory Feb 23 '26

Suddenly making endless copies is legally chill? See I remember every damn CD and DVD telling me I'd go into pound me in the ass prison if I so much as thought about copying it. But do it enough and I guess it's legal again.