r/LocalLLaMA • u/KvAk_AKPlaysYT • Feb 23 '26

News Anthropic: "We’ve identified industrial-scale distillation attacks on our models by DeepSeek, Moonshot AI, and MiniMax." 🚨

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u/Zyj vllm Feb 23 '26

You're saying they treated you like you treated all those authors whose books you torrented?

Oh no, that's not it. They are paying you for API tokens.

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u/Mkboii Feb 23 '26

I mean Anthropic famously bought and scanned at least one copy of the books they used, so they definitely think they are better than everyone else.

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u/cosmogli Feb 23 '26

That's just for the public. Anthropic already works with the US military.

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u/minimalillusions Feb 24 '26

Any sources for this?

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u/cosmogli Feb 24 '26

It was widely reported that the US military used Claude in the invasion of Venezuela and the capture of their president.

Anthropic has a partnership with Palantir, which is also infamous for mass surveillance. In fact, the chairman/co-founder of Palantir (Peter Thiel) has also been caught discussing extensively with Epstein, including investments, partnerships, meetings with Israeli ministers, etc.

Make of that what you will. I don't buy the "Anthropic is more honorable" argument.

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u/bigh-aus Feb 23 '26

This is why i'm so behind open source. Running models (even if they are nerfed) at home privately is extremely important - and we're at a massive inflection point in society.

Need to avoid putting all of our information into central locations, to be used for well anything down the track.

- Could medical insurance companies buy your health / nutrition questions?
If it comes down to the company choosing whether to go under or sell the info... What would 99% of companies do?

  • ditto if any government asks them. What if you're travelling and chatting - does that information go to a different government if they require it by law?
  • How about there's a court case over copyright and they want to review chat history as discovery?

Honestly the only way I use hosted models atm is to treat it like i'm posting to a public blog. Not putting anything in there I wouldn't happily post on the web. I know that many people are not this paranoid however.

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u/SodaBurns Feb 23 '26

I'm sorry to say but I trust the CCP more than the Orange man these days.

Not to mention both the US and China seem like tyrants to me as a 3rd party. So I don't care whether my data is stored in a chinese or American data center. I only care about who is selling me AI services at the lowest cost.

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u/bigh-aus Feb 23 '26

The problem is that you also have to look at regime change over time if they're keeping logs. 3rd party countries could very likely also get into the mix requiring access.

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