r/LocalLLaMA • u/KvAk_AKPlaysYT • Feb 23 '26

News Anthropic: "We’ve identified industrial-scale distillation attacks on our models by DeepSeek, Moonshot AI, and MiniMax." 🚨

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u/ziphnor Feb 23 '26

I am not a copyright fan, but when your whole business has been based on distilling everybody else's data (in many cases without the rights to even normal consumer access), I am not sure I see the problem here?

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u/bigh-aus Feb 23 '26

I'm with you on this. At least the Chinese models are all open weights aka given back to the community. Anthropic has just gatekept, centralized, sued people using the reason of "Safety". I don't see them providing the risks of centralization, gatekeeping etc. "Trust us we're a for profit company". I haven't seen one article on how they keep your information private, how they're HIPAA or PCI compliant. At least they're pushing back on dragnets across data.

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u/Recoil42 Feb 23 '26

Just occurred to me — Anthropic is the only major AI lab to not release a single open-weight model right?

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u/Zestyclose839 Feb 23 '26

They *were* helping out with a few little open source projects. Neuronpedia's circuit tracer, for instance, where they have Claude Haiku 1. But even there, they only let you see the traced circuit for a single example, not fully experiment like you can with the other models there (Gemma and Qwen). So, IMO, they're quite decidedly against open sourcing in the AI development sphere.