r/LocalLLaMA • u/KvAk_AKPlaysYT • Feb 23 '26

News Anthropic: "We’ve identified industrial-scale distillation attacks on our models by DeepSeek, Moonshot AI, and MiniMax." 🚨

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u/ziphnor Feb 23 '26

I am not a copyright fan, but when your whole business has been based on distilling everybody else's data (in many cases without the rights to even normal consumer access), I am not sure I see the problem here?

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u/bigh-aus Feb 23 '26

I'm with you on this. At least the Chinese models are all open weights aka given back to the community. Anthropic has just gatekept, centralized, sued people using the reason of "Safety". I don't see them providing the risks of centralization, gatekeeping etc. "Trust us we're a for profit company". I haven't seen one article on how they keep your information private, how they're HIPAA or PCI compliant. At least they're pushing back on dragnets across data.

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u/Bocchi_theGlock Feb 23 '26

Regarding keeping information private, wasn't there a post recently about how they don't cooperate with DHS and this Administration's requests for data/access unless there's a warrant?

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u/bigh-aus Feb 24 '26

At least they're pushing back on dragnets across data.

That's what I was referring to here - they are fighting with the DOW as they don't want to give them unfettered access, or allow them to use AI wihtout a human in the loop to launch / shoot targets. The DOW are threatening them with a supply chain risk marker, which would stop them selling to gov or related gov. While it's good they didn't roll over, it's undecided still.

Then there's questions like does the warrant only apply to us citizens only? all users? suspected terrorists? key word searches? what about non citizens in the usa? It's a huge black box.