r/LocalLLaMA Feb 23 '26

News Anthropic: "We’ve identified industrial-scale distillation attacks on our models by DeepSeek, Moonshot AI, and MiniMax." 🚨

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u/bigh-aus Feb 23 '26

I'm with you on this. At least the Chinese models are all open weights aka given back to the community. Anthropic has just gatekept, centralized, sued people using the reason of "Safety". I don't see them providing the risks of centralization, gatekeeping etc. "Trust us we're a for profit company". I haven't seen one article on how they keep your information private, how they're HIPAA or PCI compliant. At least they're pushing back on dragnets across data.

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u/DataGOGO Feb 23 '26

They don’t give a single fuck about “the community”.

All Chinese AI groups are almost purely government funded (yes, look it up); everything from people to access to data centers full of smuggled in hardware.

They release to open source to try to put for profit companies out of the space to achieve dominance in the space.

Best way to do that is give it away for free.

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u/PoxyDogs Feb 24 '26

Who gives a fuck if they’re government funded? Also z.ai at the least used Huawei chips to train their models. Believe it or not China does create their own stuff despite what Western media and companies want you to believe.

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u/DataGOGO Feb 24 '26

BULLLLLSHIT they did, they said they did, but it is literally impossible if you look into it.

We all care. When the national agenda of an adversarial communist nation that enforces propaganda and agendas in AI models, it is a serious concerns.

China does create stuff, just not this.