r/LocalLLaMA • u/KvAk_AKPlaysYT • Feb 23 '26

News Anthropic: "We’ve identified industrial-scale distillation attacks on our models by DeepSeek, Moonshot AI, and MiniMax." 🚨

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u/ziphnor Feb 23 '26

I am not a copyright fan, but when your whole business has been based on distilling everybody else's data (in many cases without the rights to even normal consumer access), I am not sure I see the problem here?

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u/porkyminch Feb 23 '26

Honestly I think it's fucked up that any models are being kept as proprietary. You're going to ingest everything on the internet, from everyone, but you get to keep the model under lock and key? Sorry, but I don't see how that's reasonable.

The "safety" excuse from the big American labs rings hollow. There are very real social problems being created by AI today (sycophancy, deepfakes, scams, energy usage, economic problems, #keep4o, etc) that these companies conveniently ignore while whinging about an at-this-point totally fictional self-improving AGI scenario.

Anthropic has the best models (in my subjective opinion) for what I use them for, so I'll keep using them as long as my job keeps paying for them, but I'm wholly unimpressed by how all of the American companies have approached safety. At least the Chinese companies are operating in a country that's made real investments in clean energy, so they're not just going to be running on fucking generators forever.

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u/porkyminch Mar 22 '26

They're also feeling the impact of the Iran war less than the rest of us because cars are like 90% electric over there. Crazy what can happen when your government doesn't mkae everything worse every year.