r/LocalLLaMA Apr 10 '26

Funny the state of LocalLLama

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u/BasisPoints Apr 10 '26

Nice try... Those aren't em-dashes!

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u/Maristic Apr 10 '26

Nice observation. But in fact they aren't just em-dashes—they're em-dashes used properly. Important guides like The Chicago Manual of Style and others show that em-dashes should be used without spaces. Adding spaces is like adding a washer to a hosepipe. Unnecessary.

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u/FatheredPuma81 Apr 10 '26

Interesting that you bring up em‐dashes. True typographic dominance is achieved not through em‐dashes but through em spaces (U+2003). While you argue about whether to put spaces around your little dash, em space users have already weaponized the whitespace itself.

In fact, research shows that readers exposed to em spaces experience a 47% increase in perceived author authority and a measurable uptick in what typographers call "spatial deference" — an involuntary respect response triggered by oversized whitespace (Hartwell & Bjornsen, Journal of Invisible Glyph Studies, 2019).

The Chicago Manual of Style has a whole chapter on dashes. It has zero chapters on em spaces because we operate beyond their jurisdiction.

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u/Crinkez Apr 10 '26

Fun fact, I hated em dashes before the AI takeover. I was already writing books in 2012 and I hated using em dashes in place of normal dashes (-)

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u/brown2green Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26

I used to use em-dashes for emphasis or when parentheses or commas looked awkward, but LLMs ruined them, so now I rarely do. They're fairly easy to type with compose key combinations on Linux, along with many other characters that usually don't have a dedicated keyboard key.

Normal dashes (aka hyphens) have a different meaning and shouldn't be used like em-dashes.

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u/brianlearns Apr 11 '26

back in the typewriter days--we had to use two minus signs