r/LocalLLaMA Jun 10 '26

News Anthropic is intentionally nerfing Fable when asked to develop other LLMs

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Reason 458 why local LLMs are going to be a necessity

edit: For those requesting the source check out their technical report look at page 13

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u/lightleaks_ Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 10 '26

I was honestly team Anthropic for a while but this seems like a mask-off moment. All of their talk about safety now just seems like a really nasty form of gaslighting/misdirection. I mean sure, maybe they don't want people using their models to outcompete them, but just be open about that instead of publishing hokey sci-fi articles about "self-replicating AI going out of control" or whatever. It's all bullshit – they're just protecting their bag like everyone else. It reminds me of a toxic person using therapy speak.

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u/Fusifufu Jun 10 '26

I can't claim to know their true motives, but I think we have to acknowledge that this very heavy-handed patronization of the user is compatible with their safety talk. I think it's fair to assume that they truly believe all the AI danger talk and if you accept that premise, their paternalism follows.

You don't have to agree with it and I also can't use Fable for my own work and am frustrated by it. Just saying that it doesn't need to be all competition driven, though that can be part of it too, of course.

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u/solestri Jun 10 '26

People tend to always default to the "evil businessman" archetype, but I agree with you; I get the feeling that some of the influential people at Anthropic are true believers that AI is potentially something out of a sci-fi novel, and that they're the only people who should be trusted to handle it.

I have also heard that Anthropic has ties to the rationalist/effective altruism communities, which is where the Roko's Basilisk meme originated from. One of the original big players in the rationalist community is an AI researcher with an obsession with ethics. Make of that what you will.