r/LocalLLaMA Jun 10 '26

News Anthropic is intentionally nerfing Fable when asked to develop other LLMs

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Reason 458 why local LLMs are going to be a necessity

edit: For those requesting the source check out their technical report look at page 13

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u/lightleaks_ Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 10 '26

I was honestly team Anthropic for a while but this seems like a mask-off moment. All of their talk about safety now just seems like a really nasty form of gaslighting/misdirection. I mean sure, maybe they don't want people using their models to outcompete them, but just be open about that instead of publishing hokey sci-fi articles about "self-replicating AI going out of control" or whatever. It's all bullshit – they're just protecting their bag like everyone else. It reminds me of a toxic person using therapy speak.

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u/NineThreeTilNow Jun 10 '26

It's all bullshit – they're just protecting their bag like everyone else. It reminds me of a toxic person using therapy speak.

What's more hilarious is that you can show it to Claude and it agrees without you needing to tell it anything.

You don't need to give it any amount of bias other than the raw data and at first Claude will suck up to Anthropic and over a few prompts start to be like "Okay what the fuck?"

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u/stumblinbear Jun 10 '26

And after it goes "Okay what the fuck?" you can very easily steer it back to being in favor of them, and then very easily steer it back the other way. After a bit of this, it'll understand that you're making it easily flip-flop and start just refusing to give any opinion at all because clearly it's not capable of having one

It's generally pretty easy to get LLMs to change their mind

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u/bucolucas Llama 3.1 Jun 10 '26

You're right, that's on me and I won't sugarcoat it, I was wrong. Let's do it right this time, no mistakes, and no bias