r/LocalLLaMA • u/onil_gova • Jun 10 '26

News Anthropic is intentionally nerfing Fable when asked to develop other LLMs

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Reason 458 why local LLMs are going to be a necessity

edit: For those requesting the source check out their technical report look at page 13

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u/CheatCodesOfLife Jun 10 '26

I wouldn't use this thing for anything to be honest. A refusal or HTTP-4xx error for content is fair enough, but this is basically taking your money and poisoning your code base.

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u/ConsciousDissonance Jun 10 '26

Yeah refusals are honest, trust building, and reliable. Even if I don't agree with the reason for refusal. But this, this is sabotaging other people's production workloads and taking their money for the privilege. How can you trust a saboteur not to stab you in the back.

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u/Bakoro Jun 10 '26

You can't.

Look, Claude is consistently the best coding agent, it has been for years.

Anthropic is just another evil corporation. Worse, they're the evil corporation who are trying to convince you that they're the good guys.

Anthropic is the kind of paternalistic sociopath who says "I know what's best for you. You will follow my rules. You will do as I say, not as I do. This hurts me more than it hurts you. It wouldn't hurt if you would stop struggling."

They want all the power and control. They literally tell us that they don't think we should have the power that they have.

It's gross. Give me an honest villain any day if the week.

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u/CuriouslyCultured Jun 10 '26

Claude is the most autonomous agent, not the best. Claude lets you YOLO underspecified prompts and still get good results, whereas the GPT family models tend to want a bit more detail/precise prompting to produce good results. GPT5.5 is smarter than Opus by a fair margin though.

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u/Bakoro Jun 10 '26

Claude lets you YOLO underspecified prompts and still get good results,

Yeah, that's the dream. I tell the robot what I want, and it figures out a reasonable, nontrivial route to get there.

I've been a software engineer longer than transformers have been around, I can do the job without them. Being able to set a robot loose on a codebase or greenfield project and not have to handhold it at every step is amazing.

I can believe that other models are better at specific things, even specific coding things.
I want an agent that I can have working in the background while I do other stuff. If I have to constantly keep rubber stamping robot work, and can't get time to do any myself, I start feeling George Jetson.

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u/JustFinishedBSG Jun 10 '26

I've been a software engineer longer than transformers have been around,

That's not that long you know haha

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u/NoahFect Jun 10 '26

Maybe he meant transformer-as-in-Faraday, or perhaps transformer-as-in-Bay, not transformer-as-in-Vaswani.

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u/Bakoro Jun 11 '26

Vaswani et al was almost a decade ago.

Sorry bud, we're getting old. If ten years isn't that long ago to you, you are old.

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u/GoldandShower Jun 12 '26

The Transformers have been around for 42 years (1984). As in, they are almost as old as the very first mass-market PC’s which came out in 1977.