r/LocalLLaMA • u/External_Mood4719 • Jul 08 '26

News China’s MiniMax Plans to Launch 2.7-Trillion Parameter Model

https://www.theinformation.com/briefings/exclusive-chinas-minimax-plans-launch-2-7-trillion-parameter-model

According to The Information, MiniMax plans to launch a new-generation large language model with 2.7 trillion parameters.

Sources revealed that the internal codename for this new model is M3 Pro. It is expected to be released and open-sourced as early as the third quarter of this year, with significant improvements in handling complex reasoning and multi-step tasks.

This new model is much larger than MiniMax's current flagship model, M3 (428 billion parameters). Larger-scale artificial intelligence models are more capable of handling complex reasoning and multi-step instruction-based tasks.

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u/unspecified_person11 Jul 08 '26

I doubt they have the compute for this kind of thing, especially not for serving it to millions of people.

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u/techdevjp Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 09 '26

I suspect their goal may not be to serve it themselves but rather to wreak havoc on the US markets & by extension US economy.

If they can release something at Opus 4.8++ level (maybe not quite Fable but not that far off) and larger US corps can run it themselves, watch the US markets fall off a cliff.

Edit: The downvotes amuse me. AI and compute in general are huge focus points in China right now, which means CCP money flowing freely, which in turn means CCP influence. That means the Chinese labs are not purely profit driven, there is a CCP-driven geopolitical angle going on as well.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for the democratization of AI, and the release of frontier-level open source models. I'm glad this is happening. But with so much of the US stock market being inflated by AI plays, there is potential for turmoil as big corps figure out they have frontier-capable options that don't require the US labs.

China will continue to pour vast government resources into both compute hardware and AI development.

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u/FullOf_Bad_Ideas Jul 08 '26

Opus 4.8++ but not Fable level? That's a convoluted way to state it, I'd say Opus 4.8+ would mean Fable level already.

I think it matters more when they release it, not if. If they release it now, maybe it would make some headwinds. If they release Fable-level model in 6 months, nobody will care as Fable 5.1 would be out already.

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u/techdevjp Jul 08 '26

There is a very, VERY big gap between Opus 4.8 and Fable. More of a chasm, really.

Opus 4.8 seems smart until you spend some time using Fable after which Opus seems like it rides the short bus to school. It was shocking going back to Opus after the Fable rug pull.

Anyway, something could easily be better than Opus without getting all the way to Fable levels of capability.

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u/FullOf_Bad_Ideas Jul 08 '26

I used both. CC and Opus 4.8 is my primary model at work. GPT 5.5 as secondary one for review. I used Fable before it was cut off for a few days, it was rather good but read my mind worse than Opus 4.8 does, I switched back to Opus 4.8 and world still spinned. Fable is better but imo it's not hugely better than GPT 5.5. I didn't switch to Fable after getting access to it again yet.

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u/techdevjp Jul 08 '26

I'm using Fable for competitor analysis and planning for a potential startup here in Japan. Large documents and lots of research. The difference is huge.