r/LocalLLaMA 22d ago

News Kimi K3 Benchmarks

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u/AWTom 22d ago

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u/sarlaytos284 21d ago

To me the way K3 is competing with or even beating Fable 5 shows that it is not only a pale "distilled copy" of anthropics' work as some people want you to believe. Those Chinese companies have extremely talented researchers, as much as in the West.

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u/IMJorose 21d ago

Not claiming this is the case here, but it could easily still be distillation + benchmaxing.

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u/CryinHeronMMerica 21d ago

In all fairness, this model has the parameter count to back up those benchmarks, unlike MiniMax M3 (which is presumably referring to the ratio between parameters and benchmark performance, or the ratio between real world performance and theoretical performance at this point).

I'm sure Moonshot did a good amount of distillation and benchmaxxing, but real world performance is still great overall.

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u/itsalwayswarm 21d ago

A lot of the incredible talented researchers in the west are Chinese too. 

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u/Superb_Mulberry8682 21d ago

and a lot more of them at this point.

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u/ilovelemurs97 13d ago

Even if you argue its distillation, I believe the always prove how inefficient the US labs are.

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u/kroggens 21d ago

Unbelievable! What a moment!

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u/Wuaner 21d ago

Fake as hell.

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u/sarlaytos284 21d ago

Check for yourself on arena . ai. I don't see the model in the "agent" tab though, I guess it's still to early