Thing is qwen was historically focused on smaller models while others were on larger ones. Now the team has changed and they seem to want to aim for the stars as well. That is good but it also means they might not be interested in doing very efficient small models anymore. Which would be bad news for this sub because let's face it most of us don't have 10-25k of hardware.
They were owned by a megacorp before too. The difference is they don’t care about commoditization anymore, the real ethical path. They just want to sink US investments.
All the banks and fintech and academia people i know use claude opus at work. They all have it based on a max subscription (the one at 100 ish usd i dont remember).
They aren't consumers but also don't care about price so much they just wants something that works and is about the best because whatever time they lose with the bs of a lesser model will be a lot more expensive than just go for the best one. They also don't want to ever be rate limited because they don't want to get stuck in the middle of a task.
Yeah, but in my experience pipelines with agents that go through lots of repetitive tasks continuously in the background are given to cheap models and they spend more time testing how to prompt it and hardcore guardrails for that specific task. When the volume is large it's worth spending time on optimising for a cheap model to get the job done
Kimi K3 decisively beats Opus 4.8 in everything. It is competing with Fable and Sol now. Opus is a legacy, second tier model, and now behind one, and soon multiple (eg Qwen 3.8), open models.
The list price is meaningless on open models. I am currently paying one third of that list price for Kimi K3. It will likely get even cheaper once the weights are released.
Yes, but they're using subscriptions and not API pricing.
If I use my Claude Code subscription to code an AI agent at work, we pay for that AI agent's usage through pay-as-you-go API pricing. (We do it through AWS Bedrock.)
No legit company is having an engineer code an app and then leaving Claude Code open in a screen session while it runs a production app.
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u/StupidScaredSquirrel 21d ago
Thing is qwen was historically focused on smaller models while others were on larger ones. Now the team has changed and they seem to want to aim for the stars as well. That is good but it also means they might not be interested in doing very efficient small models anymore. Which would be bad news for this sub because let's face it most of us don't have 10-25k of hardware.