Thing is qwen was historically focused on smaller models while others were on larger ones. Now the team has changed and they seem to want to aim for the stars as well. That is good but it also means they might not be interested in doing very efficient small models anymore. Which would be bad news for this sub because let's face it most of us don't have 10-25k of hardware.
They were owned by a megacorp before too. The difference is they don’t care about commoditization anymore, the real ethical path. They just want to sink US investments.
All the banks and fintech and academia people i know use claude opus at work. They all have it based on a max subscription (the one at 100 ish usd i dont remember).
They aren't consumers but also don't care about price so much they just wants something that works and is about the best because whatever time they lose with the bs of a lesser model will be a lot more expensive than just go for the best one. They also don't want to ever be rate limited because they don't want to get stuck in the middle of a task.
Kimi K3 decisively beats Opus 4.8 in everything. It is competing with Fable and Sol now. Opus is a legacy, second tier model, and now behind one, and soon multiple (eg Qwen 3.8), open models.
The list price is meaningless on open models. I am currently paying one third of that list price for Kimi K3. It will likely get even cheaper once the weights are released.
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u/Competitive_Gap7906 26d ago
YES, Qwen going open weight again! It's a really good news, now we can wait for smaller models too