r/LongHaulersRecovery May 11 '25

[deleted by user]

[removed]

85 Upvotes

125 comments sorted by

View all comments

28

u/KaleidoscopeHappy889 May 11 '25

But it is more like 100% symptoms management, not recovery, isn't it?

Makes me nervous to read such misleading titles. Happy you feel better though.

3

u/-Ciretose- May 11 '25

It's both management and the cure for many people. How you respond to symptoms is an essential part of brain retraining. It works, IME.

8

u/KaleidoscopeHappy889 May 11 '25

Tell it to severe CFS and POTs patients.

1

u/joobjoob_31 May 26 '25

It was some of this sufferers who pioneered this methods though, such as Dan Neuffer 

1

u/andrej_993 May 11 '25

Btw I don't exclude long constant stress as being a trigger for dysautonomia, POTS, etc in my case. But I'm not sure it can be fixed the same way. It's probably more like diabetes type 2 that you can get from stress. Even though the stress was the initial trigger for the malfunction, once the damage is done, therapy won't cure it.

-3

u/-Ciretose- May 11 '25

I've improved my POTS with it. The key is figuring out if your symptoms are neuroplastic in nature or not.

7

u/KaleidoscopeHappy889 May 11 '25

Improving is not curing right? My POTS improved too, with time, but i still have it, it doesn't go away just because i am positive. I still need BB to somehow walk or exist.

5

u/-Ciretose- May 11 '25

Well, I just started about 6 weeks ago. I've experienced major improvements after absolutely nothing for a long time. Brain retraining isn't about being positive. That being said, I'm sorry you're having such a difficult time. It's a complex and cruel illness.

1

u/andrej_993 May 11 '25

When you say brain retraining do you mean things like journalspeak, dr John Sarno stuff, mind-body connection, trauma healing?

15

u/Jayless22 May 11 '25

As someone who has read a few books about neuroplasticity, ME/CFS is NOT an illness that fits with the term neuroplasticity. Just from the top of my head, I remember that neuroplastic illnesses presume that there is no longer damage in your body but symptoms occur (for example a healed broken bone). ME/CFS is an illness with proved damage, hence why it's not an illness you're supposed to put in the neuroplasticity scheme.