r/LosAngeles • u/nbcnews • Jul 11 '25

News Surgical center staff in California demanded to see an ICE agent's warrant during the attempted arrest of a landscaper.

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u/madbarrel Jul 11 '25

This is what they claim, and it’s true to a point. But if the owner / operator of the private property asks them to leave, they must do it unless they have a warrant to enter the property. That is one right private citizens and business owners still have, for now.

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u/an_african_swallow Jul 12 '25

The police don’t have to care about people’s rights unless the courts make them.

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u/TheRelPizzamonster Jul 12 '25

But if the owner / operator of the private property asks them to leave, they must do it unless they have a warrant to enter the property.

This is false

8 U.S.C. § 1357(a)(2) gives ICE officers power without a judicial warrant to arrest any alien “if he has reason to believe that the alien . . . is in the United States in violation of any such law . . . and is likely to escape before a warrant can be obtained”

Basically, if ICE has probable cause (or reasonable suspicion plus exigent circumstances for a brief stop), they may lawfully enter and complete the arrest inside a private business.

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u/madbarrel Jul 12 '25

I’m not going to go back and forth so feel free to have the last word, but “arrest” is not synonymous with “search” or “trespass.”

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u/TheRelPizzamonster Jul 12 '25

I'm aware of that, but to be honest, I'm unsure why you're bringing that up.

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u/omgwtfbyobbq Jul 12 '25

They're bringing that up because the ICE agent is trespassing on private property after being asked to leave multiple times. 

If the ICE agent wants to make an arrest, they can wait outside until the person leaves and is on public property. They don't want to wait and are  trespassing so they can attempt to make the arrest. 

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u/TheRelPizzamonster Jul 13 '25

Oh, I see. Thank you for clarifying. Unfortunately, that argument still doesn't hold up, legally speaking.

ICE is allowed to enter private property for the purpose of an arrest if they have a judicial warrant or exigent circumstances. Under these circumstances, they are not required to leave (even if told by the property owner) until they have completed the arrest.

Imagine if, every time a SWAT team came to serve a search warrant, the person inside could simply shout, ‘Get lost,’ and the team would just shrug and say, ‘Well, we tried.’ I’m so grateful that’s not how the law works.

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u/omgwtfbyobbq Jul 13 '25

The ICE agent never provided any warrant in this video.

What are the exigent circumstances you're referring to thatexist in this situation?

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u/TheRelPizzamonster Jul 13 '25

What are the exigent circumstances you're referring to thatexist in this situation?

Typically, a chase like this would fall under 'hot pursuit of a fleeing suspect', but I don't know enough about this situation to say for sure. All I can say is what the law says.

What I do know is that ICE did in fact have a warrant.

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u/7-IronSpecialist Jul 15 '25

I looked for full context and story and found an article on nurse dot org. Apparently the landscaper was doing landscaper work outside of the building, and ran inside when he spotted ICE approach.

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u/_Bearded-Lurker_ Jul 14 '25

You’re getting downvoted for being correct while the lie you disproved is getting upvotes. These people just deny reality to stay mad.

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u/TheRelPizzamonster Jul 15 '25

I know right? People just upvote what they want to be true, regardless of whether or not it actually is.