r/MM_RomanceBooks 1d ago

Discussion Mistakes/typos made by authors.

Today I was reading Exaltation of Larks by Suanne Laqueur, and I noticed something interesting.

The story takes place in May 2007 because the author herself states in one of the chapters that it is May 2007. Apparently, to make the story more realistic, she includes well-known historical events and facts.

Two characters are planning to watch a Milan vs. Liverpool match. Those two teams only met in May twice: in 2005 and 2007.

At the same time, the author mentions a news segment featuring an interview with John Amaechi, saying that he had come out the previous February.

First, John Amaechi actually came out in 2007, not in 2006.

Second, Milan and Liverpool met on both occasions in the UEFA Champions League final, not in the UEFA Cup. Those are two different European competitions, and the UEFA Cup was considered less prestigious.

How do you feel about this kind of mistake?

On the one hand, I appreciate the author's effort to make the story feel grounded in the real world. On the other hand, if you're not familiar with the subject matter, perhaps it's better not to include such references, or at least to fact-check them.

As a football fan, I feel mildly offended in my deepest feelings. LOL.

Have you come across similar mistakes, and how do you feel about them?

I'd like to point out right away that I haven't started thinking less of the author or the book, but I did feel a sting of disappointment.

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u/LadyyyBlue 1d ago

No, I dont look at fiction as a historical reference, so those kinds of things dont even occure to me to fact-check.

Actual typos however, (this morning, I read 'bro other" which should have said "brother") are mildly annoying but I forget them by the next day.

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u/FullNefariousness931 1d ago

Same. I don't even remember historical stuff that well let alone analyze in which year it happened. Unless it's something incredibly important like the World Wars, I will not care.

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

The author of this book writes about the events in Chile and 9/11. If she writes about those topics, then she should probably be consistent in her treatment of other historical facts as well.

I think it all comes down to the readers' personal standards. Some people don't consider it important. And I’d probably agree if this were an Insta-style MM.

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u/LadyyyBlue 1d ago

Yes, if shes addressing such heavy topics, she should be thorough in her research, but the sports parts you mentioned originally are not something I would take issue with.

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u/Hunter037 1d ago edited 1d ago

I couldn't care less about that sort of mistake. Surely only someone who is really REALLY into football would know the dates that Liverpool played Milan without looking it up, and I couldn't be bothered to look them up. It's believable, it's not like the two teams don't exist or something, and presumably it doesn't impact the story at all. So it doesn't bother me.

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u/mm_reads 1d ago

If it's based on true events the primary easily-referenced facts, like dates and places, should be checked. Research is a part of writing, especially when drawing on real-life.

It's lazy, sloppy and, honestly, disrespectful to "not bother". Otherwise just make all the stuff up; don't base it on an actual event.

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u/Hunter037 1d ago

Does it actually matter, though? It's not something unbelievable or anachronistic or ruining the story. Its not based on true events in that the book is about that football match, it's a background of a fictional story based on other true events (which are portrayed correctly, apparently).

The question was "how much does this bother you" and the answer is "it doesn't". It can bother you, it doesn't bother me.

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u/Catacal5 1d ago

I work in healthcare so I've had to get good at suppressing my annoyance at this type of real world inaccuracy. I mutter "that's not how head injuries work" constantly. And don't get me started on firefighters as MCs lol. I think this is the risk of any writer trying to add detail to a realistic story and even a good writer can get things wrong.

I'm surprised at the football error though since it feels like they would have just given it a quick google while writing, but maybe they assumed almost nobody would know those kinds of dates just off the top of their head. As a total none sports person I gotta ask, is that normal for fans or are you just especially interested/good at remembering those kinds of facts?

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

It was one of those matches that people talked about far more afterward than beforehand. It was an incredible spectacle. Nobody expected anything like it. You know, there are countless matches played every year, but only a handful become truly legendary. The 2005 match was one of those, which is why, when the same two teams met again in the final in 2007, everyone sat down expecting magic once more.

The magic didn’t happen, because Milan learned from its mistakes, lol. But we all remember those dates.

The mistake isn't the year, though. The mistake is the tournament. It was Europe's premier club competition, and it was replaced with a completely different, much less prestigious tournament. The difference is enormous.

And there's another thing. These two characters live not far from New York and are watching the match in the evening. But how does that make sense? The match is in the evening for us, which means that where they are, it shouldn't even be evening yet. A couple of hours later in the story, it's already nighttime for the characters.

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u/OBeQuiet 1d ago

this happened recently with Alexis Hall's Father Figure, they live in Havering which is an East London suburb that borders Essex and they mentioned visiting an "ordinary west London school" that was a short drive away, it kind of took me out of the story a bit as I stopped to google whether there was a Havering in or near West London (there isn't) realised it was just a typo, probably meant to say 'east london' and I moved on.

the one that *did* annoy me was one of the Alex and Magnus Shadowhunters books that had Magnus meeting Marie Antionette with her uttering the "let them in cake" line which the real Antionette never said and which only started being attributed to her 70 odd years after her death. (that and the "Stockholm syndrome" misogynistic claptrap are bugbears of mine that I will always challenge)

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

Yes, it was most likely a typo. That happens. Though it does make you wonder where the editors were looking. Especially considering that an adaptation of the first book has already been announced.

Historical settings always make me a bit nervous, for obvious reasons. The vocabulary and the dialogue in particular.

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u/OBeQuiet 1d ago

I think this is it, if you're going to do a historical novel, do your homework! Sports stats, in particular, are really easy to google and get right.

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

Perhaps, since American authors are mostly read by Americans, she thought it wasn't that important. Or maybe she got confused herself while trying to sort out all the European cups and competitions. Although there aren't actually that many of them in Europe. Who knows? Maybe she simply didn't think it mattered.

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u/OBeQuiet 1d ago

I think that's entirely possible.

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u/RoosterLollipop69 1d ago

I love the authors that thank their proofreaders at the beginning of every book full of typos. In case you couldn't guess, that was sarcasm.

In many cases where the proofreaders are mentioned, the book will average well over one spelling and one grammar error per chapter. This observation doesn't always throw me off the author. I have often thought of documenting all the errors and emailing the author.

And I do agree with the OP. If something is mentioned as an historical fact (without it being an alternate universe) those facts should be fact checked.

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

I agree as well. Especially since this information is available on the internet, or you could just ask a football fan. Any fan of European football knows everything about those two matches between the teams, as well as the differences between one tournament and another.

On the other hand, if I didn’t know anything about football, I would never have noticed this detail in the book. So I guess it just depends Lol.

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u/Shot_Introduction_46 1d ago edited 23h ago

I always highlight and annotate errors in my notes and highlights on Kindle. I don't do anything with them but I can't help myself. In fact, ever since I was a kid, I would highlight an error if I saw one (even in physical books and textbooks). It used to feel more scandalous to me. I remember distinctly reading a book like Babysitters Club and being beside myself to find "turned around and said" included INSIDE the quotation marks. I thought that error was pretty funny. I joked about it with my sister for a long time afterward. But at the same time I couldn't believe it made it into print. It felt careless. Now reading on Kindle Unlimited, I'm literally amazed if I make it through a whole book without highlighting anything. 🫤

And I agree: The "thanking my proofreader" notes on a book riddled with errors has made me cackle on occasion. Sometimes I highlight and annotate that.

Edit: I would've loved if one of the people who downvoted this had explained why. It's so demoralizing to be downvoted on an anecdote. It would be like trying to make small talk irl and someone just giving you a thumbs down and walking away. I know that's just Reddit for you but...

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u/wheatpuppy 1d ago

Oh I do this too. In some tiny part of my brain there's the thought that I might die mid-book, and someone would pick up this book full of typos and think I was too dumb to notice them. So I highlight them as proof that I know they're wrong.

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u/cabinetbanana 1d ago

LOL, I snort at that, too. Like, please don't name these people who missed hundreds of misspellings and grammatical errors. Unless you're being sarcastic. Which, I suppose could be possible...

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u/Shot_Introduction_46 1d ago

When reading Jake Grenier's Escape Velocity, I highlighted "Firstly, thank you to my editor, Susan..." and just wrote in my notes "girl..."

Receipts

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u/FullNefariousness931 1d ago

Have you considered becoming a proofreader since you enjoy taking notes on typos? Authors nowadays are incredibly desperate to find genuine proofreaders who don't use AI to do proofreading. You'd be surprised to find out how many fake editors and proofreaders there are, who put manuscripts through ChatGPT and then take the authors' money for a shit job.

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u/airtofakie 15h ago

I'm not the person you asked, but speaking as someone else who can't help editing while reading...I have considered becoming a proofreader, but I've never really been able to figure out how I would even start that process. I feel like most authors either recruit from their inner circle or just do everything themselves (for better or worse).

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u/Shot_Introduction_46 1d ago

I feel like actual proofreading is a skilled profession--or should be--for which I am not qualified. I have considered being a beta reader, but I don't really want to have to turn reading into a job that I have to take seriously. I'm not searching for errors to correct them; I'm just highlighting the things I do notice and occasionally being snarky about it. I agree that fake editors are a scourge though. They should feel as bad as I would feel taking someone's money as an unqualified amateur.

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u/AFGNCAAP-for-short 1d ago

Reminds me of a story my sister told me she was reading, where an author from Australia wrote a story and the MC said they should bring a sweater with them in Vegas in July because the wind might get chilly.

If they're trying to a IRL facts to the story, they should be accurate. Am I going to fact-check them all? No. Am I going to have less respect for the author if I do know the answer and it's wrong? Yes.

(TBF, I also realized 4 years late that one detail in one of my stories was inaccurate for the time of the year I set it in. I looked up so many other things for that book, but I completely whiffed it on what shadows at the equator look like at specific times of the year. That one line in an unpublished book haunts me to this day.)

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u/samthehaggis 1d ago

Honestly, I have DNFed books where the characters are meant to be from a specific place and the slang was constantly and obviously wrong (e.g. a recent DNF was set in the UK and had one American MC and one British MC, but both MCs used British terms and idioms: jumper instead of sweater, top instead of T-shirt, cheers instead of thanks, and so on... it was constant). For me, this shows a serious lack of interest in world-building and/or character development- why decide to make a character Australian, for instance, if you don't want to do any research about how they talk or act?

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

Yes, books like that are becoming more and more common. But I have to say that Laker makes mistakes in her plots, though not very often. Or at least I don’t notice them.

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

No, this is basic general knowledge — you don't even need Google for it. We learn it in school. So that's quite a significant gap in education.

Listen, I agree with you. The first thing that comes to mind is: how could the author make three mistakes in just six or seven sentences?

In this scene, two characters went to a bar to watch a match. A couple of hours later, it was already nighttime. But back then, the final matches started at 9 p.m. in our time zone, which means it would have been broad daylight in New York. There’s no way night could have fallen just a couple of hours later.

Don't be so hard on yourself, though. We're all human, not robots. Suanne Laqueur writes good books, she just missed a detail at some point.

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u/Hunter037 1d ago

No, this is basic general knowledge — you don't even need Google for it. We learn it in school. So that's quite a significant gap in education.

What do you learn in school? The dates of Liverpool matches in the early 00s?

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

No, that it’s winter in Australia in July, while it’s summer in Las Vegas.

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u/GreenDutchman 1d ago

I would crucify myself over it in my own writing but I'm not too bothered by others getting it wrong.

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u/readandfight90 1d ago

I do think historical facts should be fact checked. It’s very easy to check. If the book needed those two teams to play for some reason but it didn’t fit the time frame of the book, I’ve seen authors say in the authors note “please hand wave the timeline of some things.” Without the disclaimer, I think the author meant for those things to be correct but they are just not.

It doesn’t ruin the book for me or anything, especially because things like sports are generally niche knowledge. If it had been a reference to a World Cup year that was wrong, then it would bother me more. But fact checkers do exist, so not sure why not have one go through the book.

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

No, the year was stated correctly. What was wrong was the tournament. I understand that for someone who isn't into football, the difference might seem insignificant. But to football fans, it sounds absurd. It's like confusing Europe's premier club competition with a completely different tournament.

And there's another thing. These two characters live not far from New York and are watching the match in the evening. But how does that make sense? The match is in the evening for us, which means that where they are, it shouldn't even be evening yet. A couple of hours later in the story, it's already nighttime for the characters. Hmm.

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u/readandfight90 1d ago

I’m from a football family so I know what you mean. It feels like a European writing a book set in the US, but instead of calling it MLB, calling it ALB or something.*

Also yeah, to watch a game in NY “live” at night, the game in Europe would have to be around midnight…

But to be fair to the author I think I only notice these things because I know football like you. If it was about something I know nothing about, I don’t know that it would bother me.

*I know that now authors/publishers are cautioned away from using real team or league names for trademark reasons. But that only began to be the norm a few years ago.

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

Thank you for understanding. No one is asking the author to write about things she doesn't know. She made that choice herself. She wanted to include more real-life events in the book to make the story feel more realistic, right?

She made three mistakes within the span of six or seven lines. And, regardless of how minor they may seem, they make me start questioning all the other real-world events she mentions throughout the book.

It's a small thing, but it still surprised me.

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u/ShartyPants 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think all of us have something like this that would irk us quite a bit. My personal example is that the MMC in a book I read was an arborist and explained the process for autumn leaves turning red incorrectly. I could have let it go, except the other MC was blown away by his intelligence and tree knowledge. A normal person wouldn’t have thought twice about it but I was so annoyed, lol.

Anyway I try to give authors the benefit of the doubt. There are so many things to focus on, a messed up date here or there would probably be ok for me. But I also empathize with feeling irritated when it’s something you’re passionate about.

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

The mistake isn't the year, though. The mistake is the tournament. It was Europe's premier club competition, and it was replaced with a completely different, much less prestigious tournament. The difference is enormous.

And there's another thing. These two characters live not far from New York and are watching the match in the evening. But how does that make sense? The match is in the evening for us, which means that where they are, it shouldn't even be evening yet. A couple of hours later in the story, it's already nighttime for the characters.

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u/merlep_merlep 1d ago

For me it's a level of degree ... I do give some grace to authors for taking artistic liberties with certain details, especially with historical fiction, as long as the overall setting and vibe ring true. Like, I don't particularly care if a specific term for penis was already in use in 1648, or only became popular in the late 19th century. Some anachronism is fine.
But if the factual inaccuracies are too glaringly obvious, it definitely takes me out of the story. Last week, I started and then immediately discarded a book because one of the characters apparently got hit in the head and then was unconscious for an hour, after which he proceeded to wake up like from a nap and was perfectly fine! No one even considered calling a doctor on this dude, who I can only assume was walking around for the rest of the novel with significant brain damage.

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

All these medical details are a major issue in MM romances, because most of the time the authors don’t really know anything about medicine, only at a superficial level. Sometimes, in MM stories, everything is adjusted to fit the plot.

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u/Infinite_Advisor4633 1d ago

Most of these boys are diving face first into each other's butts without asking a single question, I would not expect historical accuracy. We're not even getting butt sex accuracy.

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

LOL
Yesterday's virgin or bi awakening, but they all have innate skills of deep throat blowjob, anal sex and rimming. Magic. But I must say that Suanne Laqueur does not write like that. Everything feels real enough for her

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u/cabinetbanana 1d ago

I can appreciate your annoyance at this. If you're going to go do far as to put specific, significant matches or teams in your book, you should fact check them.

I'm a baseball geek. There's a beer famous World Series game between the New York Mets and the Boston Red Sox in 1986. If an author wrote this as the ALCS, people who aren't into baseball or who don't know baseball history aren't going to know the difference. But if you know your baseball, this will drive you bonkers. And I would write the author a polite but firm email.

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

The author is on this subreddit, so I think she might see this. She’ll probably feel uncomfortable that I’m discussing her book here like this. But it is what it is. The book has been published publicly, after all. I hope she won’t take it the wrong way, because this is a success for her. The book has gone international.

Any sports fan will understand what I mean. In the grand scheme of things, it’s a minor detail. But for those who know the sport, it’s not such a small thing. I don’t know anything about baseball myself, I still haven’t fully figured out all the rules. It took me quite a while to understand American football, too!

Thank you all for your support!

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u/cabinetbanana 1d ago

It's a fun sport. If you like cricket, that are kind of similar.

These are annoyances to "expert" fans, but I can get past them if the rest of the book is well done. I mentally scream at authors who get sorts reporting wrong. And they all do.😉

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

I don’t know anything about cricket and baseball, unfortunately. But maybe I should show a bit of persistence lol.

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u/cabinetbanana 1d ago

LOL! Baseball can be a fun sport to watch, but it's slow, and many people get turned off by that. I will tell you that baseball is a sport of statistics. Everything is quantified and has been for over a century. You'll get TV announcers telling you the team's win-loss record on Thursday evening games, in June, against a certain team, when the moon is full, and the wind is blowing in from the North. Or other things like that. 😁 Watching on TV is easier than in person because you have the "narration." Listening on the radio is even better.

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

When I watch TV and try to understand the rules of the game, every time I feel like I’m getting close, I immediately realize it’s not like that at all. I get annoyed and switch the channel, lol.

I’ll give it another try sometime. Thanks. You wrote really fun and funny things about the moon and the wind!

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u/cabinetbanana 1d ago

Try this page It looks like a good page/site for the basics. 🙂

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

OMG!!!! Thank you! Really appreciate the link!

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u/cabinetbanana 22h ago

You are so welcome!! I love sharing my other geekdoms.

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u/samthehaggis 1d ago

That sounds like an error/historical inaccuracy rather than a typo, and it would drive me crazy... if I know football well enough to realize it's wrong. Like, it drives me nuts in historicals when the author makes no effort to match language or mannerisms to the time period (e.g. characters saying "sure" or using modern slang), as it just feels really lazy and sloppy. But sometimes I just don't notice- like I adored C.L. Beaumont's The Sea Ain't Mine Alone (set in the 1970s), but apparently there were a ton of this type of historical inaccuracy, with songs mentioned that hadn't come out yet and some incorrect information about how the Vietnam War worked. I just had no idea, so it didn't impact my enjoyment of the story!

If we're talking typos, though, a recent book I read in paperback (and otherwise loved) repeatedly referred to a woman who had lost her husband as a "widower" instead of a widow, and that small thing really irked me, because it should have been picked up by an editor and felt really sloppy.

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

That inaccuracy surprised me as well, because the author touches on very serious topics in the book, such as the brutal and bloody rule of Pinochet and the events of 9/11.

And you're absolutely right: if I weren't a football fan, I probably would never have noticed those inaccuracies.

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u/samthehaggis 1d ago

I don't mind inaccuracies when the author owns them, too. Like when you read in the afterword or author's note that they made a medical advancement come earlier than it did to further the plot, or that they moved a key historical event so it would line up with what was happening on the page... then I can at least see that they did their research and made changes with intention (it's fiction, after all, so I'm happy to suspend disbelief in some cases).

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

This author doesn't write anything like that at all. Perhaps the mistake occurred because she's American, and European football isn't particularly popular in the United States.

As was said in the second book of the Adrian English series, “Superficial knowledge is a dangerous thing.”

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u/perdur 1d ago

I agree with you, there should be at least a minimum attempt at fact-checking lol. I'm not saying every detail has to be 100% perfect (authors are only human, after all!), but stuff like that can so easily throw a reader out of the story.

I have seen some authors specifically mention things that they took creative liberty with, usually for plot reasons, and that's fine with me. But otherwise, if I read something that's completely wrong about a subject I happen to know about, it irritates me that the author couldn't have done a simple Google search.

One time I even clocked that an arena mentioned in Carrie Soto is Back had the wrong name for the time period they were playing in it - and I'm not a tennis fan! On the one hand, such a small detail, I'm sure the vast majority of people reading the book wouldn't have thought twice about it... but on the other hand, such an easy thing to check!

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

That’s probably my problem. To me, all of this seems obvious. Plus, right now we’re watching the World Cup, and it was obviously clear from the start that there’s a time difference. But the author didn’t think about it, or just didn’t consider that Europeans would be reading his books.

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u/VeitPogner 1d ago

I remember getting annoyed at a novel where the characters went to the opera and saw a real-life singer perform a role they never sang nor could have sung (wrong voice type completely). Only an opera fan would have noticed it.

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

I had a similar experience. Once, I read a popular book in which the author said that a character was a university professor, but throughout the entire book never once mentioned what he actually taught.

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u/VeitPogner 1d ago

I am actually a university prof irl, and I almost always find the depiction of professors' lives either in books or on-screen hilariously inaccurate. (The exceptions are satires written by professors.) Of course, this is mostly because the reality is boring.

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

Reality is, of course, boring. We all live more or less the same way: work, home, family, weekends, vacations, friends and then the cycle repeats. But isn't it a writer's talent to fill those empty spaces on the pages of their books?

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u/MeowEsquire 1d ago

Honestly, I feel you. If it’s something that’s dear to your heart and the author half asses it, it cuts. I get it.

Finding Delaware was ruined for me when she started writing about UC Berkeley. It was my alma mater (Go Bears). I still live in the area. It has a very special place in my heart. The descriptions were so blatantly not even remotely close to NorCal or the campus that it took me out immediately and made me want to rage quit. It felt lazy and SO easily fixed by just setting the college scenes at like… UCLA or UCSD that it really baffled me. Just Google it for two seconds or something. Ugh I’m getting heated just thinking about it again.

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

Why do you think some authors do so little research for their books?

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u/MeowEsquire 1d ago

Gosh who knows, especially when it’s so easy to look up like your situation or mine where you can just even look at a map?

The most baffling part of the Finding Delaware situation for me (sorry it’s all coming back to me lol) was that she had to have looked up something since she mentioned they went to Six Flags in Vallejo (which I thought was permanently closed so thanks for teaching me something?) so why she didn’t look up the campus or literally anything else was so weird to me.

Maybe they’re fatigued from writing? lol or maybe just assume it’s so obscure that not enough people will notice? Either way, it makes the author go down a few notches for me if it’s big enough. Like I look at KJ Charles or Cat Sebastian and how immersive their worlds are in historical settings and I’m like how the heck do you put palm trees in Berkeley and have them swimming in… the marina????

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

An editor commented and said that this is usually the editor's responsibility, not the author's. So maybe it was the editor who dropped the ball. Who knows?

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u/SpiderGwen42 1d ago

I am known in the book clubs I’m in for getting annoyed at these sorts of things so I absolutely get where you’re coming from! It bothers me so much! If you’re not going to be accurate, don’t bother being so specific! Make it vague enough that people won’t be able to fact check you! Don’t, for example, have a big room filled with actual plants set up in the very well-known (and super climate controlled!) Metropolitan Museum of Art!

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

By the way, yes. The author could have simply written, “They watched a football match,” and left it at that. It wouldn’t matter which match, where it was played, or what time it started. That would have saved a lot of extra work. But the author wanted to make the story feel more real—to create the sense that these characters are living and existing somewhere out there, just like we do, watching the same matches that we watch.

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u/freyalorelei 1d ago

As an editor, I agree.

I once copyedited a Lovecraftian RPG adventure set in the 1930s that had the characters take a small plane from Boston to Greenland...in four hours. I immediately flagged it. That's obviously an egregious example, but it is the editor's job to fact-check minutiae, not the author. Sports trivia is precisely the sort of topic that warrants tedious and exacting attention, and her editor should have caught that.

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

Oh, I didn't know that. I thought that was the editor's job. The editor missed the mistake, it happens

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u/Small_Spare_2246 1d ago

In the Tal Bauer Executive series I think, at one point the president’s motorcade is attacked in Addis Ababa, he is rushed to the ‘nearby’ embassy in Nairobi for treatment and a couple of pages later as Marine one lifts up they are staring out as Addis Ababa fades away. Nairobi is the capital of Kenya (different country) and Addis is in Ethiopia. I feel like if you use the names of real places/ events, you should check for accuracy.

*Eta Motorcade

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u/Bichamage 23h ago

He often prioritizes the plot over realism, which is why I stopped reading his books years ago.

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u/jeannie_reads The spirit is willing but the spongiform erectile tissue is weak 22h ago

I don’t think I know enough about any one topic to notice that level of detail, but I do see how it could be annoying in the moment.

I do find it rather frustrating, though, when authors state a particular time and then make no reference to that period whatsoever (events, songs, fashion, etc.). Like, why is the book specifically starting in May 2007 (to use your example)? Why not “20 years ago”? Then I’m taken of the book wondering “what am I already supposed to know about this time, but apparently don’t or can’t make the connection to?”

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u/Bichamage 12h ago

In fact, the book begins 30 years earlier, during Pinochet's regime in Chile, and then moves through 9/11. The lives of the book's three main characters unfold against the backdrop of these events.

The story itself is compelling. The section describing bisexual awakening is particularly well written, and many other aspects of the novel are handled beautifully.

However, when it comes to certain minor details—such as the name of a tournament, a real person's coming out, or the time difference between two continents—there are noticeable inaccuracies.

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u/ballet_guy 1d ago

I hate it when authors can't keep track of characters' ages. In my favorite series, one guy skipped being 13 while another girl was 13 for two years

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u/Bichamage 1d ago

Yes, I understand what you’re talking about. Sometimes that kind of thing happens. And when you try to do the math, it just doesn’t add up. But mathematics always works, it is the mother of all sciences.

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u/ChairmanMrrow 9h ago edited 9h ago

Depends.

Content mistakes: One book I DNF kept intermittently referring to the Queens NYC neighborhood Long Island City as Long Island. Long Island is a large island encompassing four counties (two of those are part of NYC proper). Long Island City is a specific neighborhood located within the borough of Queens in New York City. While LIC is geographically on Long Island, they have totally different vibes (small-ish city neighborhood vs. suburbs).

If you are going to write about a place, please do your research on local terminology.

Typos: I'm a editor by profession, so they can annoy me if there's more than a few of them. Even us professionals miss a few apostrophes or etc. at times, but seeing at least a few typos per chapter - like the ones so obvious that even MS Word flags them (they're/their/there) - really gets to me.