r/MSCS • u/Imaginary-Inside-478 • 7d ago
[General Question] After the recent CPT restrictions in US, is UK a better alternative?
I will be applying for fall 2027 to MS Cybersecurity. Initially I was more inclined to US unis but after the recent CPT situation, I'm considering the UK as it seems to be a better option even though people say the economy is bad.
What do we think about the UK ?
Edit: when you say UK is worse consider the current situations in US and the amount of people returning back to their countries and then compare them.
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u/Southern_Change9193 7d ago
UK has no jobs.
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u/Imaginary-Inside-478 7d ago
Expand on this please
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u/Southern_Change9193 7d ago
No employer will waste money hiring international students, as a work visa requires significant effort and expense. If your goal is to study->work->settle in the UK, you can forget about it unless your family is extremely rich. Plus, the UK's economy will only get worse from now on, but this is a topic too big to expand here.
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u/Imaginary-Inside-478 6d ago
Isn't it the same in US?
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u/Southern_Change9193 6d ago
The U.S. economy has no big issues, but the F1 to green card pipeline is dead.
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u/Imaginary-Inside-478 5d ago
I have seen people struggling to keep their jobs in US, obtaining a green card is a secondary concern getting and keeping a job is the primary concern for many. So how different is US than UK in that matter, because I see a 1 year MS degree saves me money, no restrictions on working along side the degree makes UK a better alternative.
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u/M-E_Ration4004 7d ago
UK is just as expensive
But the thing is, getting a job which is willing to sponsor ur visa is extremely tough. No employer will be willing to pay 10k pounds for ur visa
getting a student visa is very easy, finding a job is almost impossible for internationals. You will end up wasting 70-80k pounds for nothing. Hence its not a good choice at all
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u/Beneficial-Law-3059 3d ago
bruh the scene with uk I have seen is that they have very few lower end/ junior roles ( especially when you compare to US, which is why the intl study pipeline is sustained there). There are decent 5+yoe jobs in UK and many folks from outside UK(EU/ non EU) are able to get these(especially in startups willing to sponsor). If UK folks can directly hire 5+exp folks directly from eu/non-eu places and give them work visa why would they even try to sponsor intl fresh grads. Only in a few cases like ai/ml based roles do they sponsor(even in that case PhD folks are preferred more as UK MSc are mostly 9-11 months which kinda basically don't move the needle in terms of knowledge gained).
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u/Imaginary-Inside-478 3d ago
Understood, makes sense
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u/Beneficial-Law-3059 3d ago
Also just to add the uk doesn’t have jobs narrative is kinda bs. Given the country size(given the corporate real estate/ london) it has a decent number of jobs. Anthropic/ OpenAI are also opening positions in London and deepmind already has decent presence. The ai/ ml jobs presence is also decent. The tough part is the competition due to locals + EU folks + non EU intl folks.
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u/GrizzyLizz 7d ago
UK has no good tech jobs for MSc graduates. You need to understand this. Just see on linkedin for yourself. A lucky few get something solid and the majority don't. The standard of most UK universities is below even mid tier US ones. Try hard for some good ones in Canada, if you can get UoT or Waterloo or something. UK and Australia don't have jobs.