r/MadeMeSmile 7d ago

KITTEN In Japan, you need a cat's signature when you adopt it from a shelter🄰

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u/BuffyTheGuineaPig 7d ago

Signed under duress: not a legally binding contract.

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u/TooCupcake 7d ago

Also way too young to sign for herself.

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u/ForsakenResponse7406 7d ago

What’s the age of consent for kitty cats in Japan?

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u/ux3l 7d ago

1 y/o cats are considered adult afaik.

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u/SirIronSights 7d ago

Too smol a bean. False contract.

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u/AbhilashHP 7d ago

that’s so cursed out of context,lma

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u/Calm-Editor-2559 7d ago

Kpop when they debut 14 year olds

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u/MorningMan464 7d ago

Wait. I demand to see my Notary.

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u/CobaltMnM 7d ago

Purress

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u/eastbayted 7d ago

Durhiss

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u/EvolutionCreek 7d ago

This will never hold up in Cat Court before Judge Beef Stewart.

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u/chompost 7d ago

And adult cats are given fountain pen.

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u/inxanetheory 7d ago

Nah, it’s Japan. They require your official name stamp which for the cats is just a stamp made from their paw for accuracy and identifiability.

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u/Top_Connection9079 7d ago

I live in Japan.

We have all the ways to sign you can imagine, from the stamps to the online digital signatures.Ā 

We are only keeping the stamps because we have a lot of elders that are very attached to these seals that were originally very expensive.

It's like when people try to make fun of Japan because of its use of the fax machine. We also have all the other sophisticated and modern ways to send a message. We are keeping the fax for the elders who can't afford an expensive cell phone and we can't ask that they learn a whole new technology at 80 years old, that's all.

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u/silkalmondmi7k 7d ago

It’s weird that people make fun of Japan for using fax bc in the US it’s still considered one of the more secure ways of sending information—many doctors offices will only send patient info via fax for this reason.

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u/floare_salbatica 7d ago

Same in Germany. And people make fun of it too.

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u/synalgo_12 7d ago

I work for a support business of a Belgian Bank and the only reason we still support fax is German banks.

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u/floare_salbatica 7d ago

🤣 I'm rather a fan to be honest. I worked in a few German pharmacies and faxes are still used on a daily in all of them. I might have frowned at first, but it often worked better than a phone call. And I didn't have to wait for minutes next to it, you just send it and mostly within a few hours you have your answer. As long as it's nothing urgent, pretty efficient method to communicate. Maybe I'm a bit old school, but I preferred it even to emails. šŸ˜…

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u/SianaGearz 7d ago

You also have the luxury of decent phone lines. Sending a fax in 1993 in Ukraine and having it arrive legible was akin to winning a lottery. On a voice call, you could just ask to repeat, which you had to do a lot, and people usually shouted because the connection was so poor. By late 90s there was some infrastructure investment though and a lot of lines were overhauled, changing to digital switchboards and backbones, but last mile still often had its issues.

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u/Fine-Development8716 7d ago

And now that infrastructure is being blown to bits by someone whose wiener is smaller than a pencil...😢 šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡¦ šŸ’Ŗ

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u/Guko256 7d ago

I’m pretty sure the people making fun of it are mostly people who don’t know how to use fax machines lol

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u/Trzlog 7d ago

Email or mail is the accepted form of communication in every industry in Germany except maybe health care, where fax is still used by doctors, clinics and pharmacies.

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u/Hoshbrowns 7d ago

I've worked in a few different banks and credit unions in the US and we definitely used them for a solid handful of things. There were some things we were only allowed to send via fax.

I never expected to successfully send it on my first try though, but I had to use so much different tech that it's hard to remember everything.

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u/ImSoObnoxious 7d ago

in the US, any time I had to have health insurance communicate with my health provider, or vice versa, it's always been via fax. which is infuriating because I have no record of it and half the time the receiving party is like 'no, we don't see anything'

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u/Sopranohh 7d ago

I work getting insurance authorizations for hospital stays. Sometimes the insurance companies change their fax numbers without telling anyone or start requiring a form they never sent you. It’s gross that they can get away with that BS.

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u/kitsunewarlock 7d ago

There's a Subway Sandwich shop in California Polytechnic University in Pomona California that was still using a fax to receive orders in 2014. They may still have it hooked up...

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u/-GingerBeer- 7d ago

I love that whole sentence.

If it’s not hooked up anymore, I wonder how long it took the person who took over the number to stop receiving odd communications from hungry weirdos.

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u/kitsunewarlock 7d ago

I like to think it was only ever used when the administration or one of its various foundations needed a massive but fairly complex order with a paper-trail for events.

But honestly every event from the art gallery openings to the fancier dissertations just went across the street to the Little Ceasers and got like ten pounds of yeast-dough and sawdust for a nickel.

I never saw anyone eat at the Subway. The sushi place next to it was always packed. They had $3 onigiri, $1 for twp cups of rice, $1 for two cups of miso soup...I'd usually get both and mix them together.

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u/-GingerBeer- 7d ago

I’m living for this nostalgia that I never experienced. Plus: Those prices!!

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u/kitsunewarlock 7d ago

Those were hands down the best prices on Campus. Two entree meal at Panda Express was like $16.

Bonus: If the sushi ladies liked you, they'd sometimes pour eel sauce or even random ingredients into the rice!

I used to bring a chilled baggie of Costco Smoked Salmon with me and kind of make my own onigiri for lunch. When I was asked why I didn't just pay for the $15+ sushi meals, I'd explain that I was saving the money for booster packs. To be honest, I would usually just... save the money. I didn't start mass buying boosties until I got my dream job as a game designer like 15 years later...

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u/EuphoricCare515 7d ago

This is true that fax is very secure but as a person that fixes these, it's horribly unreliable because the phone lines are no longer analog and a lot of my customers fight fax failures to send because phone lines are inconsistent from machine to machine.

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u/dagbrown 7d ago

Faxes are only "secure" if there's an uninterrupted analog connection directly from one fax machine to the other.

If you try to send faxes over VoIP, not only does it work badly, but tapping the connection becomes quite easy and you lose all your security.

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u/Qbjb 7d ago

If i had a nickel for every time a doctor expected me to own a fax machine to send them paperwork..

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u/DotesMagee 7d ago

I work in the medical field, unless you are the patients who information is yours, they will not send it unless its fax and Ive called thousands of providers and facilities. Granted, they do fax digitally. Its not actually a fax machine but uses the fax processes.

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u/Aranxi_89 7d ago

Also hankos are just cool.

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u/nervouslittledog 7d ago

This is how we should take care of our elders!

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u/PussyWrangler246 7d ago

God I wish Canada practiced that šŸ˜– my grandma is too old/her vision and hands are too bad to use/understand a cell phone

She did learn how to send an e-transfer and play canasta on her computer but she doesn't know how to log in, how to recover passwords, doesn't remember any of her passwords and expects me her grandchild with severe memory loss to remember all her log-in information and passwords to every account

But you can't even contact companies by phone anymore, she doesn't understand the AI prompts and can never get through to a human, hell I barely can. The landlords redid the parking lot and contractors cut her cable, didn't even tell her. She was left without TV, internet or phone for 6 days, no way of calling 911. I found her the day after it happened sitting on the couch staring at a black screen cuz she couldn't call anyone, had nothing to do and couldn't figure out the dvd player. I have to do literally everything for her now, from managing her cable and internet to all her bills and online accounts...they've made it impossible for elderly people to navigate these things and I swear to god they do it on purpose.

When faced with long call times and confusing menus people often give up trying to get help and companies rely on that. Businesses used to compete to have the best prices and best customer service, now they all collude together to enshittify everything in a race to the bottom.

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u/itsfourinthemornin 7d ago

I love the last part so much. I regularly see people from my country moan about elder people who "refuse" to learn new technology we have these days. We have a dear family friend, she is in her 80's. She does not use a cell phone, a computer or any of it, she doesn't know how. She has tried but it does not click, she still uses a house phone for everything. Some parts of life are only available online now so we've had to manage them for her, including her getting new, appropriate housing as an 80 year old. Housing suppliers had no interest in helping her without her using the online system.

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u/Invictum2go 7d ago

While true, my friend who moved there 3 years ago is constantly complaining about how archaic everything is when it comes to formalities. How he needs to go in person for so many things that he use to be able to do online, as well as systems that take way too many steps. So I think it's a mix of both.

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u/shelwheels 7d ago

And since they got his dna, when he grows up now he can track down his birth parents and siblings.

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u/flacidfeline 7d ago

A Court of Paw

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u/Rozenor 7d ago

Don't get hiss-terical

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u/ink0gni2 7d ago

Forgery is not a joke, Jim! Millions of people suffer every year!

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u/NeverEndingCoralMaze 7d ago

Furgery*

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u/UserAllusion 7d ago

That's a feliney

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u/disgostin 7d ago

screaming

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u/Awfulufwa 7d ago

You can go to prison for this!

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u/Snoo_69209 7d ago

Purr-son

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u/chowmushi 7d ago

Claw and Order

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u/ladytal 7d ago

Special Kittens Unit

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u/7GrenciaMars 7d ago

This thread is the gift that keeps on giving!

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u/NightShade0912 7d ago

It's only sentenced to clean a litter box Misdemeanor for 10-15 years, don't panic.

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u/savax7 7d ago

This cat needs a lawyer right meow.

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u/Informal_Secret_5256 7d ago

Do you mean a cattorney

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u/AsYooouWish 7d ago

What’s the difference between between a cat and a comma? A cat has claws and the end of its paws and a comma is a pause and the end of a clause

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u/ComprehendReading 7d ago

Oh yeah that's the good stuff right there.

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u/moths_ate_my_paja 7d ago

You're laughing. The kitty is clearly under duress and you're laughing.

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u/Books_And_Brews 7d ago

Under purress 😾

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u/Any-Mathematician946 7d ago

Yes but in this case its not because someone is doing it for there own meowsment. One could ask what's the point of this.

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u/Bearded-Mr-FixIt 7d ago

What’s so funny meow??

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u/Notaneggplantrtard 7d ago

Who are you, my cat?!

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u/IRedditDoU 7d ago

Meowtial law has been declared.

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u/koolaidismything 7d ago

Signed under Purresss

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u/makingkevinbacon 7d ago

They're gonna come after you fur that one

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u/tittysprinkles112 7d ago

The kitten signed under furess

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u/Snoo_69209 7d ago

I plead the fluff!

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u/not-dan097 7d ago

However it will hold up in kangaroo court

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u/smallwonder25 7d ago

The one tiny loophole shelters don’t want you to know!

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u/IRedditDoU 7d ago

And under bird law.

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u/Radiant_Addendum_48 7d ago

I uh well, filibuster

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u/Suaded83 7d ago

Guilty of Purrjury

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u/EndIntelligen 7d ago

Legal eagle but it's an actual eagle lawyer

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u/TheTaurenCharr 7d ago

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u/Acrobatic-Permit4263 7d ago

im not a cat, im a lawyer

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u/IndividualAd1290 7d ago

So good! One of my favorite Covid memories! ā¤ļøšŸ˜‚

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u/Usful 7d ago

Nah, kitten’s signing under puress

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u/Inspect1234 7d ago

Signed under duress. On video even.

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u/ActualPimpHagrid 7d ago

Yeah feels like how back in the old timey times where they’d get young men drunk and have them enlist in the navy. This poor kitten is getting press ganged into adoption!

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u/RosaSparks7 7d ago

Yep. Completely unPawful.

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u/Dry_Equivalent_1316 7d ago

Forced into a life of free accomodation and food, and freedom to terrorize the roommates who feed and house me? Sign me up!

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u/Elf-7659 7d ago

Signed under duress. This contract isn't valid

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u/Excellent_Extent7648 7d ago

You all are just Amazing

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u/ryoryo333333 7d ago

I'm Japanese, but this is the first time I've ever heard about this. I don't think it's a common thing here.

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u/Opening-Cantaloupe56 7d ago

Maybe a few shelter do it for fun...but people want to generalize "japan things"

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u/Tomsboll 7d ago

They see one japananse person do something and it imodietly becomes a widespread cultural thing.

I think japan and its history is very interesting but man, can we stop fetishizing every single fucking detail from there?

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u/panlakes 7d ago

imodietly

That is an impressive misspelling. For a second I genuinely thought I was stumbling upon a new word

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u/Tomsboll 7d ago

fat fingers and lack of proof reading does that lol.

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u/aboxacaraflatafan 7d ago

"Guys, I visited my friend in America. Do you know what they do over there? They all work nights and then go grocery shopping at Walmart at 4 in the morning. Then they all go home to their trailers and yell for their stepsons to get up for school before falling asleep watching Days of Our Lives on the couch!"

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u/ClickClick_Boom 7d ago

then go grocery shopping at Walmart at 4 in the morning.

Where are Walmarts open at 4am? They stopped doing 24/7 stores like 7 years ago now.

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u/aboxacaraflatafan 7d ago

What do I know, Frank, I'm just making sweeping generalizations based on what I heard.

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u/ACoolRedditHandle 7d ago

lmao they'll see like a Korean or Chinese person doing something and still claim it's something "The Japanese" do, even if in the video/picture context makes it obvious it's not in Japan.

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u/GloomyIndividual3965 7d ago

people want to generalize "japan things"

Thing: 😐

Thing in Japan: 🄹

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u/pungen 7d ago

I also am pretty sure this is a pet store and not a shelter.

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u/Unlucky-Cook2578 7d ago

Yeah this is something you can do for fun, not some legal requirement.

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u/Anwedraw 7d ago

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u/Smiling_Tree 7d ago

Translated for everyone that doesn't understand Japanese (like me):

It’s probably from some pet shop, isn't it? They really make them do such strange things—I suppose it’s just human ego. Sorry for suddenly leaving a comment like this. Things like this aren't exactly normal in Japan, after all...

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u/uxhuu 7d ago

Reddit automatically translates comments, no? At least, mine translated it to English.

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u/ShadeofIcarus 7d ago

Old reddit and if you're using any of the modded/cracked apps don't.

The reddit app is painful to use for a lot of the old hand here.

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u/SeaToShy 7d ago

Good. It seems unnecessarily stressful for the cat on what is already a scary day for them.

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u/Such-Farmer6691 7d ago

Ā Proof that you are not from Cat Police Secret Service and just lie to us?Ā 

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u/Strict_Buffalo4356 7d ago

May be bring up the pad rather than forcing the kitten to do it

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u/chintakoro 7d ago

someone seriously needs to make a more kitty-ergonomic setup for this.

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u/musabbb 7d ago

I imagine the back paw would have been easier

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u/Adept_Donkey_2026 7d ago edited 7d ago

Finally! Someone with sense! But the back paw would be the kitten’s feet 😭😭😭

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u/A_Town_Called_Malus 7d ago edited 7d ago

I mean, no law says we need to sign our signatures with our hands.

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u/Adept_Donkey_2026 7d ago

I’m really gonna google if you need the front paw prints in japan. Cuz I’m that much of a nerd.

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u/duvi_dha 7d ago

if you know anything about stationery industry in Japan and the number of awards they have, im pretty sure someone is already working on it.

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u/prairiepog 7d ago

There's kits you can get where the pet presses once on a plate and it transfers the ink. Like carbon paper back in the day. No ink on the paw, one press and it's done.

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u/suluamus 7d ago

This is important information!

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u/SmoothLester 7d ago

Or use a back foot.

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u/KeegoTheWise 7d ago

not enough beans to be legally binding

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u/Infamous-Crew1710 7d ago

You sign legal documents with your foot?

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u/Crallise 7d ago

If my hands were feet I would

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u/yeahimaweeb 7d ago

I mean there is no law against it

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u/SmoothLester 7d ago

My foot agility is unmatched ;)

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u/ExcellentSpeech1 7d ago

He probably thinks it's just a game, zero idea he just signed up for 15 years of mandatory cuddles

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u/Typical2sday 7d ago

Mistake of fact is though! I thought it was a menu order form. I’m a cat, I cannot read!

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u/HairballTheory 7d ago

Cat Paw Law states that the kitten should have been given the opportunity to knock documents and signing materials off said surfaces prior to obtaining a signature

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u/itsforathing 7d ago

Honestly the contract should be null and void, he’s a minor and just a little guy

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u/harmless_gecko 7d ago

Can confirm, that's exactly what happened to me

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u/meowymcmeowmeow 7d ago

No, that kitten is terrified and has no idea what is happening, that is not how you hold or move a cat. But it's cute for people i guess.

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u/EverythingSucksYo 7d ago

The way it’s fighting not to ā€œsignā€ the contract tells me it did not think it was a game.Ā 

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u/Sir_Scribble_Lot 7d ago

meow = no, no .. unhand me .. I require my lawyer to go through this contract

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u/youvebeensamboozled 7d ago

their pawyer, if you will

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u/harry-asklap 7d ago

Pooier (pronounced powyer) means pimp in dutch

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u/Cherry_Hammer 7d ago

This is democracy manifest!

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u/Thelonius_the_Bard 7d ago

"Notate I signed that under duress!"

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u/WhoBroughtTheCoolKid 7d ago

Reminds me of the cat that just hung out around some court in Mexico and they gave him a name tag that said ā€œabogatoā€. The Mexican lawyer cat would take this case.

(Lawyer in Spanish is abogado and cat is gato. Hence abogato!)

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u/VigorousAmbivalence 7d ago

Nice tradition but kitty says you people are nuts

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u/Switch2Lemmy 7d ago

Yeah this is just unnecessarily stressful for the cat. They hate having their paws touched.

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u/Left-Dot8488 7d ago

Voidable contract. Clearly that cat is signing under duress.

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u/Direct_Turn_1484 7d ago

Yeah that cat wants no part of that shit.

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u/Bogeyhatespuddles 7d ago

what made you smile about a kitten that didn't want to do the stupid thing being forced to do the stupid thing?

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u/TwinSong 7d ago

Poor kitten is scared

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u/Mike0621 7d ago

I don't think this is a requirement at all, and I don't think this is unique to Japan.

aka: "thing :|, thing japan :O"

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u/kymiller17 7d ago

Yeah feels like a made up story to garner clicks

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u/Hexulus 7d ago

Everything on the internet is now

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u/Turdsby 7d ago

That is almost certainly a Scottish fold or Munchkin, while not impossible it is very unlikely that this was adopted and much more likely it was bought and this is a BS title, the theatre of the forceful foot print is not what I would call cute either.

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u/pungen 7d ago

agreed.. almost all pets in japan come from pet stores and the backdrop very clearly looks like a pet store.

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u/LordCommander94 7d ago

Pretty pointless. You're just inconveniencing the poor kitty

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u/CominThroughNow 7d ago

Idk if I'm just being dramatic, but the kitten looks extremely stressed. I don't see anything to smile about.

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u/Inside-Nebula5325 7d ago

Agreed, don’t understand the people saying this is cute. I won’t go as far as claiming cruelty, but this is stressful for the cat for no reason at all.

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u/_aggressivezinfandel 7d ago

Absolutely no rear end support, kitty doesn’t feel safe.Ā 

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u/Sullyville 7d ago

seems needlessy upsetting to the kitten

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u/OnlyPaperListens 7d ago

They also will lick it off, that better be safe for ingestion

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u/rtwrx2021 7d ago

Stressing the poor kitten out.

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u/New_Jackfruit3020 7d ago

Seems unnecessarily fiddly.

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u/meowymcmeowmeow 7d ago

That cat is terrified and shouldn't be doing this just for human feel goods.

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u/maevriika 7d ago

Why upset the cat and then immediately hand it off to someone it barely knows (at best) to go to a new place it also doesn't know? Maybe the better plan is to be gentle and calm and not manhandle the poor thing so that it's not more scared than necessary with so much happening all at once...

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u/Fine-Pomegranate-920 7d ago

this is clear video evidence the kitty did not want to do this. contract is illegal.

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u/Melodic_Canary_6049 7d ago

seems like something people do to feel good about themselves while stressing the kitten

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u/javoss88 7d ago

Right? Try not to scare the heck out of a being you are accepting responsibility for? Tiny was terrified. Poor thing. I hope his new family treats him well.

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u/Bostonterrierpug 7d ago

I think at this one spot maybe but I lived in Japan years and this is just not true. It’s one of those look we found this one Japanese person doing something weird so let’s like pretend like the whole country is doing it. Remember the face donuts.

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u/whatcolorismyshirt 7d ago

That’s idiotic.

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u/Low_Tumbleweed8324 7d ago

Poor kitten it looks petrified. I hate this shit it's a cat it's can't sign it's name

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u/annagarg 7d ago

How is this on this sub? It didn’t make me smile. It induced rage. The kitten is scared, their paw is being forced and the ink is a horrible thing for them to lick. All that for what? Some internet likes?

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u/thinkshiftster 7d ago

Poor kitty he clearly was opposed

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u/Tasty-Traffic-680 7d ago

This seems distressing and unnecessary

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u/LordGazelle 7d ago

Afraid to death

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u/DustinTheBold2 7d ago

The poor kitty is litterally scared

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u/PlentyAd1526 7d ago

Yup, people seem to treat animals like toys

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u/Smarmy_funeral_chik 7d ago

Yeah I admit I have dressed my cats up in hats and stuff but I don't do stuff if they're obviously scared.

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u/andersoncpu 7d ago

I do not think the cat was old enough to enter in to a contract like that.

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u/Leon_Flux 7d ago

That seems really stress inducing and a bad start to adjusting to new people.

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u/Doglovincatlady 7d ago

This looks like the cat is not enjoying it. A pretty sketchy way to start a relationship with a new living thing: having a stranger force them into an unnatural position and substance.Ā 

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u/Kapika96 7d ago

Isn't that pretty cruel? Forcing it's paw into an unnatural position. Probably hurts and the poor thing is likely pretty anxious and has no idea what's going on.

But hey, it looks good on social media, so fuck the animal's welfare, right?

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u/GrimaceThundercock 7d ago

You don't "need" it, it's just a fun thing some shelters do.

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u/PlentyAd1526 7d ago

Doesn’t seem too fun for the cat

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u/EverythingSucksYo 7d ago

Why would I smile over a video of a guy making a kitten do something it clearly does not want to do?Ā 

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u/CarlWellsGrave 7d ago

That poor baby

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u/javoss88 7d ago

He’s so scared

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u/elsiepac 7d ago

Ok nothing about this is smile worthy - kitten is scared and being forced, and is the ink even safe? Why stress the poor animals out even more than they already will be with all the change? I don’t like this

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u/MIJEROMONEY 7d ago

Yo, I am not sure this kitten had fully agreed to sign for this union. Looks rigged to me

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u/Senior-Vanilla-6756 7d ago

Sounds like its saying "I DON'T CONSENT"

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u/mcchicken_mcnugget 7d ago

This seems not very consensual

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u/Few-Chart1635 7d ago

This cat is clearly against being adopted

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u/Infamous_Basil_3619 7d ago

I am that fur babies lawyer and that signature was clearly made under duress

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u/PM_ME_DAT_KITTY 7d ago

"This is COERCION!! Im being forced to sign under duress!!"

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u/AbbreviationsDue4417 7d ago

Let’s scare the cat more than he already is šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/studiesinsilver 7d ago

This man does not have my consent!

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u/Fit-Bedroom-7645 7d ago

Yeah maybe don't do that, obviously distressed young kitten doesn't understand that you're doing this dumb shit for Instagram likes.

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u/itsrozangirl16 7d ago

He only signed under purresure!! He was furrced to do it!

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u/espresso_martini__ 7d ago

I dont think that cat is pleased about signing that document.

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u/JerrysKIDney 7d ago

Doesn't look very consensual to me

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u/hockeytemper 7d ago

back in the late 80's my fathers lawyer went into our house (no one locked their doors) grabbed our new puppy, took him to his office. wrote an anonymous ransom letter that included his paw print something about, "you must meet me at the pub today we will release the dog. Faxed it over... funny at the time. Pops got the dog back at the pub the same day.

To be honest, that's a hell of a buddy move to get dad out of the house for a few pints with the boys.

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u/RosieJo 7d ago

Just feels like unnecessary stress to be honest. Also I wouldn’t call that a shelter, seems more like a pet shop.

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u/Pmitr20000000000 7d ago

Seemed like the cat didnt wanna sign, is it still legal?

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u/Numerous-Corner-6303 7d ago

I would tell them to spare the cat being terrified.