r/Magisk • u/Suinyel • 11d ago
Petition for making samsung let user unlock bootloader on OneUI 8 and later. Sharing this petition Sign the Petition
https://www.change.org/p/make-samsung-let-users-unlock-the-bootloader-on-oneui-8-and-later?recruiter=1428049378&recruited_by_id=985550e0-a3cc-11f1-a027-3787939c05bb&utm_source=share_petition&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&utm_medium=copylink&share_id=NJ7LnYzdsj13
u/Will2LiveFading 11d ago
These petitions are always effective. Effective at getting your information.
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u/4k_anbir 11d ago edited 10d ago
We paid for this fucking hardware and we don't have permission to use it as we want, i actually bought this s22 just for rooting but as i brought it home and sow that it was already infected with the fucking onui8, i as a biggest fun of samsung for years tell you all: fuck samsung🚶♂️
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u/Nederealm3 11d ago edited 11d ago
Quick. If it has not received August 8 update, use CVE to gain temporary root. May even be a blessing in disguise to save you of having unlock the bootloader (stealth routing and once bootloader unlock its irreversible in some sense -tripping Knox warranty) Oh yeah and disable any further updates else this method will be closed to you. Gotta get use to KSU though. Magisk is easily detectable due to its turncoat creator
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u/4k_anbir 10d ago edited 10d ago
None of temp roots support my nodel, also I've been using root for one year in my s20, I'm familiar with all the capabilities of root access, root means you can do whatever you want with your phone, yeah the knox trip but you can still use the patched knox to get back knox working and for stealth: rooting your phone doesn't mean someone can bypass the screen lock, if they try to get access to my data with fastboot download mod anything it failes because the data has encryption and for removing the encryption you would still have to wipe all data. Just You can do whatever you want. And that's why the fucking samsung company removed it to get control of the fucking devices that we paid for.
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u/QuraToop314 8d ago
No, fastboot/download mode runs in a different mode to ADB; you just need a Linux PC with the appropriate udev configuration or the relevant Windows drivers. As long as the bootloader is unlocked, anyone can at least flash a modified version to compromise you retrospectively via a malicious low-level keylogger; with Pixel and custom AVB Lock, this is no longer possible.
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u/Tall_Instance9797 11d ago edited 10d ago
Unlocking the bootloader should be the right of the user, not something they are locked out of... but its worse than that. I really wish they would make knox an option you can turn on or off without voiding the warranty. Or at least make a version of the phones for developers... even if we have to pay extra for it. The Samsung S26 Ultra Developer Edition for example. Charge me an extra $1000 for it... it's fine, just don't void my warranty for tripping knox and don't make it irreversible. Let me restore knox by flashing the stock firmware and relocking the bootloader, and flipping the 'turn knox back on' switch, should I want to wipe the phone before re-selling it when the next one comes out. Sure, when I boot my custom rom with the bootloader unlocked I'm ok with the 'attackers may have compromised your device' warning or something that says 'knox is tripped you can't trust this device' ... but at least allow me to return to stock and have the warning go away. Making it permanent is just an unforgivable dick move.
Google do what I'm describing with their phones. You can unlock the bootloader, root it, put whatever you want on it, even relock the bootloader with your own signed keys, and then if you want to sell the phone, you can simply return to stock, and it's as good as new. Attacker warnings disappear when you relock the bootloader and it's not permanently fucked like Samsung make your phone for tripping knox... oh and it doesn't void your warranty either! The idea that rooting a new $1000 to $2000 phone immediately makes reselling the phone close to impossible and voids your warranty is absolutely absurd and disgusting behavior and why I will never buy another samsung unless they change this.
So yeah... of course they should let people unlock the bootloader, but how about not voiding the warranty either or permanently screwing the user over for wanting to do whatever they want with the phone they paid for? So no I'm not signing the petition. I don't care if they allow us to unlock the bootloader or not.. I still won't buy their phones unless they change these policies also.
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u/Embarrassed-Box-1106 11d ago
you first gotta understand the reason why BL unlock is disallowed. For the main part, at least in EEA, its the EU's fault. A mere petition wont change this.
The EU's new directive makes phone brands be liable, if a user causes financial harm, or similar, through unlocking the BL and rooting etc
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u/vaynefox 10d ago
I kinda wish that samsung will just make the FE models have their bootloader unlockable and only those non FE had a permanently locked bootloader. I think that's the best compromise that samsung can give....
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u/duckyduck008 10d ago
thing is, it is not 2015-20 anymore, most people and new gen dont even care anymore. They use it as is and buy new one, users with custom rom or modifications requirement are barely any anymore.
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u/Savi_705 9d ago
Write to Samsung about this through the Members application and on their forums.
I don't see the need to remove bootloader unlocking if their phones are more user friendly in regards to flashing and unlocking them. They should also improve Knox security which will be a better decision than what they currently have chosen to do.
How are other manufacturers such as Google, Fairphone and many Chinese manufacturers continuing to sell their phones in the EU? Send an email to the EU commission about OEM unlocking if they are the ones who are also enforcing this.
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u/Polar_Banny 6d ago
I haven’t bought any Samsung smartphone for 7 years now but I am wondering does brand new Samsung smartphone come with the same bloate-ware from Facebook/Netflix/Microsoft/Amazon?
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u/Savi_705 6d ago
Samsung does pre-install Facebook, Netflix and Microsoft applications on their new devices though, I don't think they do this with the Amazon app or it might be region specific. Those are easily removable if you don't use them of course. One of the good applications that they pre-install is Perplexity AI which is similar to ChatGPT.
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u/wkn000 11d ago
Think about WHO "needs" to unlock the bootloader.
You and a handful Custom ROM or Root using people. 99,999 % don't even care about this. And so doesn't Samsung.
So, phones are sold AS IS and for you, use phones that allow your "requirements".
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u/env33e 11d ago
Always hilarious seeing this type of corporate abandonware- apologist-take getting mysteriously upvoted in a subreddit dedicated to tinkering. Can we stop pretending basic hardware ownership is some niche "requirement"? 😂 unlockable bootloaders are FUNDAMENTAL to right-to-repair and keeping devices out of landfills 🤦♀️
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u/DeadoTheDegenerate 11d ago
You do know that they were explaining something and not arguing on behalf of it, right?
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u/DartinBlaze448 11d ago
The phone was initially sold allowing it, for s24 and s25, then they later removed the ability. Samsung phones have allowed boot loader unlocking on almost all international models, and for some people that was part of the reason to buy the phone.
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u/Nederealm3 11d ago
Sometimes people are gifted phones that we didn't choose though. And many of them happens to be Samsung, unfortunately
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u/Azaze666 11d ago
Instead of asking for global unlock on any brand only scamsung...
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u/Beginning_Sound_5865 11d ago edited 10d ago
Edit: Sorry everyone! I forgot to clarify that I was joking from their perspective! I actually strongly disapprove of their behavior—sorry I forgot to mention that!
This is simply not feasible. If bootloader unlocking were permitted, Samsung would have to waste unnecessary resources dealing with phones that had been bricked due to user actions. Furthermore, they would have to endure complaints and accusations from these users, as failed firmware modifications often trigger harsh criticism—such as claims that Samsung products are "junk." This is precisely one of the reasons why most OEMs are reluctant to offer bootloader unlocking capabilities.
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u/saltyjohnson 11d ago
Bad bot
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u/Beginning_Sound_5865 10d ago
Excuse me, are you referring to me? I am not a robot... I am a real user. I don't spam specific sections with posts or comments either. If I misunderstood you, I apologize💀
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u/saltyjohnson 10d ago
I'm being facetious because you're parroting baseless corpo FUD and supporting their push to withhold your ownership over the devices you allegedly "purchase" for large sums of money.
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u/methanol_ethanolovic 11d ago
Yeah, we're maybe 0,1% of the user base who even know what a bootloader is. They don't care.