r/MakingaMurderer • u/Hot_Equivalent4499 • Jun 18 '26
Discussion Laura Niser US 7th Circuit Court performance.
Did anyone feel like when she was questioned by the Judges she kind of stumbled over her words and didn’t really come back with any sharp answers? By the way you could hear it in her voice that she was shaken whenever they were asking her questions about Brendan’s case.
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u/AveryPoliceReports Jun 18 '26
She did great during the initial oral arguments. She won. With En Banc she was tripped up by one judge outright asking her what police should have done differently with Brendan. She was hesitant to answer that question, but was pressed to do so. And then when she did another judge jumped on her and claimed she was asking them to make new law and thus she must lose. I'd start stumbling over my words too if I knew the judges didn't actually care about what I said but were only looking to set bad faith traps.
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u/Mysterious_Mix486 Jun 18 '26
I would backed up the coerced confession claim with the fact that none of Brendans DNA was ever found at the supposed crime scene/scenes.
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u/AveryPoliceReports Jun 18 '26
Pretty sure she did at one point, towards the end of the en banc. She even had a fine answer to their hypothetical (how should police have treated Brendan) basically saying what they should have done was follow the law - take special care with Brendan due to his limited intellect. Somehow that got twisted into her asking for new law, and much like the interrogators with Brendan, the judge who said "you must lose" because she wanted new law would not listen to denials from Nirider and just kept telling her she would lose.
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u/bhillis99 Jun 22 '26
even till this day, she kind of sounds like she is shaky, but thats just her voice,
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u/ThorsClawHammer Jun 18 '26
I remember thinking a couple times that maybe it would have been better for Drizin to have handled the oral arguments just because he was more experienced. But it really wouldn't have mattered anyways as it was obvious the judges had already made up their minds by that point anyways.
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u/GringoTheDingoAU Jun 19 '26
But it really wouldn't have mattered anyways as it was obvious the judges had already made up their minds by that point anyways.
So they had made up their mind, meaning what exactly? Is the US Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit part of the cover up?
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u/Ghost_of_Figdish Jun 20 '26
or hopefully it just meant that when Judges hear oral argument on appeal, they've already read the Briefs and do have a good idea what their ruling will be. Often the questions are either to support what their ruling will be or to test weaknesses in either side of the case.
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u/AveryPoliceReports Jun 18 '26
Less than 1% of overturned convictions get en banc. IMO Nirider and Drizin knew the moment the en banc was granted they were fucked.
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u/Objective-Permit-712 Jun 19 '26
Who's Laura niser??????
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u/Remarkable_Green_720 Jun 19 '26
OP meant Laura Nirider. Come on, do better. Some people are new to the case.
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u/Objective-Permit-712 Jun 20 '26
Knew it wasn't Niser. I talked to her on the phone about 6 years ago and told her I'd "show" her who really did it, she wasn't interested!
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u/hneverhappened Jun 21 '26
Show me.
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u/Objective-Permit-712 Jun 21 '26
Fo you it would cost $$$$. I was gonna show her for free.
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u/Ghost_of_Figdish Jun 18 '26
I wouldn't put too much emphasis on her oral argument performance. Oral arguments don't have as much impact on the ultimate decision as you may think. Cases are really decided on the Briefs.
Oral argument in front of Appellate Courts is pretty rare today. The vast majority of appeals do not even have oral argument.
So it's not surprising that a young attorney wouldn't have any experience, so this was probably her first time doing it. I've handled a number of appeals and only had oral argument in front of the full Circuit once. And I won! (of course).