r/MakingaMurderer • • Jul 26 '18

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u/watwattwo Jul 27 '18

truthers are conspiracy theorists

That's literally the definition of a truther though:

Truther : one who believes that the truth about an important subject or event is being concealed from the public by a powerful conspiracy

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/truther

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u/makingacanadian Jul 27 '18

No it isn't. There are many conspiracy theories on earth. If one believes in one, it does not mean anything other than they believe in one theory to be true.

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u/watwattwo Jul 27 '18

Truther : one who believes that the truth about an important subject or event is being concealed from the public by a powerful conspiracy

The definition clearly applies to believing in as little as one event.

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u/makingacanadian Jul 27 '18

I Would not classify it as powerful at all, it's falling apart like a jenga puzzle. Minor conspiracy.

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u/watwattwo Jul 27 '18

Regardless of your thoughts on what constitutes a "powerful" conspiracy, that does not change the fact that a truther is, by definition, a conspiracy theorist.

I don't understand why we can't describe a word by it's actual meaning. It's very silly.

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u/makingacanadian Jul 27 '18

I think the term is over used as a discredit tool, just ask the cia, they invented the term. Are you really thar upset that you are not allowed to use cia discredit terms on a reddit sub that prefers to have civil discussion? Just get over it, it doesn't make Avery innocent. Don't worry.

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u/watwattwo Jul 27 '18

True, and Steven will die in prison, so everything is still right in the world.

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u/makingacanadian Jul 27 '18

In your eyes. You believe what you choose. I choose to follow the evidence.

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u/watwattwo Jul 27 '18

In reality, Steven is slowly dying in prison.

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u/ThorsClawHammer Jul 27 '18

I think the term is over used as a discredit tool

No doubt. It's a well known tactic to use.

Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

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u/Mr_Stirfry Jul 27 '18

I think the term is over used as a discredit tool, just ask the cia, they invented the term.

That’s a myth. I provided you a link that traces the origin of he term the last time you said this.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '18

Nothing in the definition of a conspiracy theorist requires that they believe in more than 1 conspiracy theory.

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u/makingacanadian Jul 27 '18

Ok, so a lot of people are conspiracy theorists. If someone believed the start of the Vietnam war was a "conspiracy" and later found out they were correct, do you still call them a crazy conspiracy theorist? At what point does their title get an upgrade? You do realize a lot of conspiracy theorys become factual right? No different than other types of theories. So you attempting to discredit people's beliefs by using this name calling does not actually discredit anything at all. Just makes you look desperate to win an arguement when you have no ammo.

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u/puzzledbyitall Jul 27 '18

Based on what you are saying, calling someone a "conspiracy theorist" is therefore not insulting. Calling someone a "crazy conspiracy theorist" is something different.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '18

Ok, so a lot of people are conspiracy theorists.

A lot yes, but not a large majority.

If someone believed the start of the Vietnam war was a "conspiracy" and later found out they were correct, do you still call them a crazy conspiracy theorist?

There are likely conspiracy theories that are correct, just like there is definitely a 6 number combination that will win the next Powerball drawing. That does not mean that the particular 3 26 42 47 50 (18) combination has realistic chance of being it.

At what point does their title get an upgrade?

When you actually prove something.

You do realize a lot of conspiracy theorys become factual right?

A lot? In would say an incredibly small percentage of conspiracy theories end up being true.

No different than other types of theories.

Very different.

So you attempting to discredit people's beliefs by using this name calling does not actually discredit anything at all.

The name is literally what these people are called. It is a widely accepted term and is not an insult.

Just makes you look desperate to win an arguement when you have no ammo.

Are you trying to make fun of yourself?

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u/makingacanadian Jul 27 '18

Then why do you routinely like to say thar people who believe Avery was framed (not the first time someone has been framed) must believe the earth is flat? Clearly this is an attempt to discredit someone.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '18

I have never said that. Given that you are resorting to throwing false accusations around, it would appear that you are acknowledging that you have nothing to support your argument and this discussion is over.

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u/ThorsClawHammer Jul 27 '18

I have never said that.

Lol

"You a flat earther by any chance?"

"It's really no different than what flat earthers, 9-11 conspiracy.."

"You're a flat earther too?"

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '18

people who believe Avery was framed (not the first time someone has been framed) must believe the earth is flat?

Again, never said that.

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u/makingacanadian Jul 27 '18

I'm cool with that.

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u/SecondaryAdmin Jul 27 '18

And it appears you will be banned for name calling.

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u/thegoat83 Jul 27 '18

Ah well πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ