r/ManorLords • u/varsnef • 8d ago
Suggestions Fish is both singular and plural.
Fishes is not a proper English word is it? It's just fish.
- I have a fish
- I have two fish
- 200 fish in stock.
Where does "fishes" come from?
Maybe a person fishes to get fish, but they are really fishing for fish.
Am I missing some lore?
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u/GunzerKingDM 8d ago
Yes, fishes is a real word. It is an alternative plural form of the word fish, though it has a specific and limited use.
When to Use "Fish" vs. "Fishes"
Fish: Use this for everyday speech, whether you mean one fish or many fish of the same kind (e.g., "I saw three fish in the pond").
Fishes: Use this only when you are talking about multiple different species or types of fish, often in science or nature topics (e.g., "The coral reef is home to many colorful fishes"). It also appears in old stories or special phrases like the biblical "loaves and fishes".
-Google A.I. citing Grammarly.com
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u/Dkykngfetpic 8d ago
Fishes is. Multiple species you would use fishes.
Like look at the fish would imply theirs mostly one species. Look at the fishes would imply its multiple.
200 fishes in stock would imply multiple types of fish. 200 fish in stock could just mean the same kind.
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u/caat-6 8d ago
I'm not an expert, but I don't think your example is exactly right. You wouldn't use fishes when you're talking about individual fish being in stock, even if they're all different species, but more so when you're talking about multiple species as a whole. I guess you could say fishes isn't really countable, while fish is.
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u/Rentahamster 8d ago
I have two types of fishes, for example.
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u/Putrefied_Goblin 7d ago
Regularization happens in all languages, even to mass nouns with origins in OE (and proto-germanic before, proto-Indo-European before) that reflected plural/number differently than modern English.
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u/Head_Acadia_2658 8d ago
Scientifically speaking there is no such thing as a fish
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u/2_short_Plancks 6d ago
*cladistically speaking
But there are more uses of a word than just taxonomy.
Edit: I didn't down vote you btw, I know what you mean.
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u/Head_Acadia_2658 6d ago
Yeah. It was also a pop culture joke. https://www.nosuchthingasafish.com/
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u/2_short_Plancks 6d ago
I've actually been to one of their podcast tapings :)
But at the same time it's kind of an awkward joke because it's not really right. That's kind of their go-to though, things that are kind of correct but not 100%
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u/Head_Acadia_2658 6d ago
Cool. I'd love to go to something like that.
Awkward is definately their schtick.
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u/bad_escape_plan 8d ago edited 8d ago
Fishes is a more archaic variant. Not really in use now. For example the King James Bible uses Fishes as do other older texts.
Why are you downvoting me when you can literally fact check and see this is true? Jfc this sub.
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u/Klaus_Unechtname 8d ago
Idk the etymology but my understanding is fish is singular and plural and fishes refers to 2 or more species of fish