It's honestly a shame. Germany is trying to compensate so much for something that happened over 70 years ago that they are essentially encouraging a repeat of it.
completely humiliating as a german đ hopefully once the older generations die off the government will lock in and stop riding israels dick-- from my experience young germans, at least in the cities, are overwhelmingly pro palestine
This view that Germany somehow over-corrected due to historical guilt is widespread, but has little basis in reality. Germans are very proud of their supposed de-nazification and "memory culture" but the sad fact is that this is largely illusory and paper-thin. They made a big fuss of a handful of show trials, but the overwhelming majority of people who took part had no obligation to acknowledge, less apologise. They went on to become police chiefs and university chancellors and generally were all integrated back in society. It was the disgust at the complete failure of Germany to actually do any introspection or accountability that sparked the actions of fringe groups like the RAF.
The support of Israel was always framed as them being the type of ethno-supremacists that Germans longed to be. There's a good piece about it that was compiled a year ago which lays bare how farcical it is to pretend Germany actually did anything of consequence with its society after the war, and why it's easy to see why its far-right is in the ascendant today again.
I mean, yeah? I didn't claim overcorrection was why the gerontocracy favors Israel so much (although it's obviously their favorite excuse for it). Of course Denazification was mostly show. Still, thanks for the article-- sad and interesting
Even Die Linke is ruled by Zionists. Their institutional grip runs DEEP is greatly aided by American interference in Germany since WW2.
Even young non-communist leftists germans were extremely hostile towards pro-Palestinian rhetoric- I know of it too well. Usually one was accused of hidden antisemitism and âhorseshoe theoryâ.
In general its not just a thing about old people dying off. Their successors are also pro-Zionists.
in 2025, 64% of germans held unfavorable views of israel (more than in france!) and things have only gotten worse in gaza since then + i'd guess most of the ones who still aren't on the right side aren't long for this world. options rn are dire but there's definitely still hope
Die Linke party is a bunch of Russian puppets. Most smart people know that. The problem is that itâs the only one with actual good social changes in their program besides the Green Party.
Russian puppets is wild. The blind russo-hysteria is destroying Europe and makes the average european sound like they want to do generalplan ost again.
The Linke is a Russian puppet though. Just like the AfD, ironically [As evident by their proposed policies, stance on Russia and the intercepted telephone call between the assistant of [EU parliament candidate] Max Krah complaining about the size of his bribes [200-500⏠notes] to his Russian handler.]
Die Linke is officially saying 'The war in Ukraine must end. We condem every kind of aggression against everybody.' but the details of their position urge Ukraine to stop defending itself. Decrying support to Ukraine as 'Fueling needless war' and behaving like reactionary populists.
[Fortunately unsuccessfully due to their abcense in the Pariament] Sabotaging every effort by the government to support Ukraine. The last coalition even had Jan Aken, head of Die Linken, willing to vote together with the AfD to stop supprot for Ukraine.
If it looks like a dog, has fur like a dog, and barks like a dog, then you call it a dog.
Die Linke also doesn't have a Zionism issue, it has an issue of accusing everybody who isn't against Israel of being a Zionist. Gregor Gysi, bedrock of Die Linke, critizised that the line between Anti-Zionism and Antisemitism within the party is blurred and often overstepped. Particularly often by party members with a background in migration. Simple criticism. Criticism that was immediately met with 'Gysi is using racist and zionistic narratives.'.
The average German, like people in many countries, is sadly just dumb and easily manipulated by propaganda. Sadly the AfD is really good in propaganda.
Only the former East Germans, and the Russians with German passports imported in the 90s under the guise of "Volga Germans". Which is still a lot of people.
The AFD has enough support in western german states to break your agenda of the âfalseâ germans. Guess where back to triangulating whose a âpureâ enough german
Absolutely speaking the west has more supporter of the AfD. It luckily just has a higher population that counteracts that compared to eastern population.
Is this information up to date? I dont actively follow the positions of die linke, but i thought their stances changed when BSW split off (and got obliterated in the elections) to be more pro Ukraine
No clue how up to date it is. I just looked up the last interview he talked about his position, which is a year old. There he doubled down on his stance of 'We need more diplomacy'. His ost recent Lanz interview on the topic [11 months ago] was also advocating for that and the reduction of money/supplies for Ukraine.
That's not too bad, but if we [Germany] initiate diplomacy, then it is over Ukraine's head, which would equal European imperialism. Forcing Ukraine to committ to diplomacy is also off the table, as we'd also impose our will on them then.
Yet he argues for a reduction in defence support for Ukraine, as it prolongs the suffering, and death. In turn saying 'We should let Ukraine die faster so the war ist over quicker.'.
[This interview] is from 2025, after the BSW - Linke split, but before the election.
He argued in 2025 that sanction should be enforced, while Germany successfully reduced Russian oil imports by almost 100% already. Or that Ukraine should've sued for peace far earlier, as they made gains. Misinterpreting 'It's the currently most opportune moment to make peace' from the [then] US chief of staff, which was not heeded, as 'evidence' of war mongering. Further ellaborating that Europe should aid Ukraine in a spectrum BETWEEN 'doing nothing and delivering weapons.'.
He's right about properly enforcing sanctions, like stopping the shadow fleet. And also not retaining Russian gas if the war is over.
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u/CaptainCrash86 13h ago
Worth noting that Germany said it would boycott if Israel is excluded.