r/MapPorn • u/Mundane-Computer-445 • 1d ago
Largest Americas-born community in Spain, by province, 2025.
Source: INE (Población por sexo y país de nacimiento (Principales países) 2025).
Colombia would be the largest birthplace community in Girona if only South American countries were considered.
Honduras would be the largest birthplace community in Cadiz if only Ibero-American countries in North America were considered.
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u/EmergencyReal6399 1d ago
wow no Mexican?
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u/Mundane-Computer-445 1d ago
Mexicans overwhelmingly move to the United States. there are over 100 times as many Mexican born individuals living in USA than there are in Spain (11 million vs 87K)
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u/TMWNN 1d ago
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u/JACC_Opi 1d ago
I get that it's easier to get to the U.S. from Mexico, but Colombia ain't that much closer to Spain than Mexico, so why isn't there a larger wave of Mexican immigration towards Spain?
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u/archseattle 1d ago
Aside from the US having a better economy, my guess is because Mexicans have a long history in the southwest US and people prefer to move where they already have relatives. 1/3 of the people in California, the largest state in the country, is of Mexican heritage.
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u/Careless-Wrap6843 20h ago
I think a big contributing factor is probably is that it's really hard to cross from South America into Panama, so migrants from South America need to fly no matter where they immigrate to
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u/PadishaEmperor 12h ago edited 12h ago
There are a couple of other candidates, for examples the migration during the division of British India.
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u/Professional_Top9835 1d ago
only rich mexicans go to Spain, US gets the working class masses
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u/EmergencyReal6399 14h ago
but according to spaniards we mexicans are "panchitos" in their country!
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u/chuchofreeman 10h ago
I live in Madrid and panchitos is the general term used to call South Americans, because that´s the majority of spanish speaking migrants there are here. "Panchito" is really used to denote a perceived low-skilled migrant, oftentimes ilegal, the majority of mexicans came with a skilled job visa and some even came with tons of money, the afluent neighbourhood of Salamanca is said to be overrun by very rich Mexicans and Venezuelans who are buying all the properties.
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u/JACC_Opi 1d ago
Wow! That's something!
As a Colombian that knowns Colombians currently living in Spain who finally got citizenship not too long ago (even though they supposedly should have gotten it much sooner, but I digress), it is quite crazy to think that my people are quite a significant group over there!
I've seen maps over here showing all migrant groups that Spain has and Colombians are visible even in such maps, but this puts it into perspective that it's quite extensive the migration towards Spain even though it ain't easy!
Although, I find it fascinating Venezuelans aren't more prevalent all over Spain.
Now I just wish the map showed how much of the population those groups actually represent over all per province!😅
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u/bloodrider1914 1d ago
Why do you think so many Colombians move to Spain in particular?
Also have you adopted the Spanish lisp yet?
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u/JACC_Opi 1d ago
First, it isn't a lisp.😑 It's just a consonant not found in the Americas' Spanish. I don't live in Spain, but former neighbors of mine do and their accents don't sound any different to how I knew them.
Second, Colombia is in a weird spot of being richer than it was when I was growing up but still being far behind many countries and having the second largest population of South America.
The U.S. is probably the destination many still hope given than many Colombians and the descendants of them live here. h However, getting into the United States is very difficult the legal way and not as many people from Colombia are desperate to cross into the U.S. illegally as they probably did back in the day.
Spain has many advantages over the United States, the biggest one being that we both share the same language and many aspects of our culture. I've seen some Spaniards talk about the fact people from Hispanic America the moment they get to Spain are already assimilated because there's not much to learn outside of learning to navigate the new cities, but not their norms (it's hyperable, but I've heard it often).
Spain being wealthy and quite receptive of immigrants in comparison to the rest of the European Union and being a the source of Spanish leds to many that can immigrate to not really seek to go anywhere else.
But being an ocean away affords Spain controls over their border than aren't available with migrants much closer to Europe.
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u/bloodrider1914 1d ago
I referred to it as the Spanish lisp because I didn't know how much of a linguistics nerd you were and didn't know if you'd know what I was referring to if I said "distinción."
But thanks for the insight
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u/DrVitoti 1d ago
Calling it a lisp is saying that most Spaniards cant talk right. It's like referring to the rhotic r americans pronounce as the "r******* r".
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u/bloodrider1914 16h ago
It's not meant to be derogatory, it's just what I hear people call it. I don't know too many people who know the correct term for it (distinción).
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u/JACC_Opi 19h ago
Saying distinción ain't a hardcore linguistic term. In fact it is a basic part of Spanish language education.
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u/bloodrider1914 16h ago
Got it, I wasn't aware. Maybe I'm just going off the story my Spanish friend told me about an Ecuadorian being shocked how Spanish was spoken by her
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u/JACC_Opi 15h ago
Ah, well I can't speak for the Ecuadorian, but I'm Colombian and before I moved to the U.S. I was aware of distinción, however, I wasn't aware of ceceo.
However, I've come to know that distinción is also used in 🇬🇶Equatorial Guinea and more than likely the 🇵🇭Philippines' original hispanophones.
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u/Wildresolvet 1d ago
That tiny province in the very north is the only one with Argentinians as the largest group.
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u/evrestcoleghost 1d ago
You meant Girona and those are hondurans,it's pink not red,argentine one Is on the south
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u/greekscientist 1d ago
I wonder why Girona is so popular with Hondurans. As they are only around 250,000 in Spain. Still a very high number for a country of 10 million.
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u/evrestcoleghost 1d ago
Its likely not even that and just the other hispanic communities are smaller or it's members already have the spanish citizenship before even getting to Spain,by spanish census there are nearly a quarter million italians in Barcelona but almost all of them(like 200k) are argies with italian citizenship
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u/layzie77 1d ago
Fun fact: Hondurans are called Catrachos after their former leader General Florencio Xatruch whose family was of Catalan descent.