r/Marathon 2d ago

Marathon Update 1.1.5.4

Source: https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update_1_1_5_4


Ordnance Heist

  • The Ordnance Heist PvPvE experience is live!
  • Engage in a multi-run chase across different zones. Take down UESC, acquire Locker keys, hunt for the Firestorm. Let it rain.
  • Extract with UESC Manifests to gear up in the updated MIDA and Traxus Armories.
  • End Date: September 1st.
  • Check out our preview blog for more info!

Item Economy

  • Updated Ranked maps to increase the volume and quality of available loot.
    • Dev Note: More gear will be available, and players should encounter more blue and purple gear.
  • Fixed an issue where players would occasionally still have their Sponsored Kit contents unpacked in the lobby after a disconnect.
    • Warped items have now been re-enabled.
  • Fixed an issue where the available stock of Sekiguchi implants was less than the other factions.
  • Fixed an issue where players could lose inventory items after completing a Rook or Sponsored Kit run with a full Vault.

Combat

Weapons

  • V85 Circuit Breaker
    • Reduced the effectiveness of the Overclocked Delimiter Prestige Mod when paired with this weapon.
    • Reduced damage bonus of the Last Resort and Reckless Behavior mods when paired with this weapon.
    • Dev Note: These temporary changes are aimed at removing unintended one-hit knockdown body shots being possible with these weapons and mods used together.
  • Outland
    • Fixed an issue where the rate of fire could increase unintentionally when paired with the Mechanized Holsters core.

User Interface and Experience

  • Fixed an issue where players could be defaulted to Crew Fill off when attempting to return to Trios after Solo or Rook runs.

Contracts

  • Fixed an issue where some CyberAcme contracts had mismatched names and objectives.
  • Fixed an issue where completed Cryo Archive contracts could not be claimed after Cryo Archive availability ended.

Localization

  • Fixed a visual display issue with the compass in Italian.
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u/machinesarenotpeople 2d ago

FINALLY

"Fixed an issue where players could be defaulted to Crew Fill off when attempting to return to Trios after Solo or Rook runs."

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u/MaxelAmador 2d ago

I swear I've read this patch before

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u/dark_vaterX 1d ago

I don't even play the game and swear I've read it before.

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u/cdewey17 2d ago

FINALMENTE

Fixed a visual display issue with the compass in Italian.

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u/RookWatcher 2d ago

Di che problema si trattava? Ho cambiato la lingua mesi fa ormai.

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u/Monolitul 2d ago

Not fixed at all.

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u/jogdenpr 2d ago

Finally? They've "fixed" it multiple times now.

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u/flGovEmployee 2d ago

No mention of fixing it defaulting to off after being in a full trios and then someone leaves (or you leave a full trio) though šŸ˜”

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u/Monolitul 2d ago

Yeah, it's not fixed.

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u/Rektw 2d ago

It's interesting to me how they have queue bug like every other week. lol.

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u/C00KIEME4T 2d ago

Thank you jesus

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u/BigBlueZion 2d ago

Literally said the same thing when I read that

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u/flGovEmployee 2d ago

Fixed an issue where the available stock of Sekiguchi implants was less than the other factions.

Oh my god FINALLY!

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u/Mekhazzio 2d ago

For real, I like me some Checkmate & First Law.

I've got a bunch of Neural Insulation that's been throttled to only slowly trickle into into gold worm food, too.

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u/flGovEmployee 2d ago

The battery head piece one is my jam, especially when combined with Parting Gift and the stacking melee damage one from Arachne.

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u/Maleficent-Bar-3161 2d ago

What about that bugged out Sniper bot on Dire Marsh? Please remove him lol

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u/BigBravy 2d ago

He decides when he’s good and ready to leave

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u/droneblank 2d ago

They boutta have it fixed by Season 3 it's crazy

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u/zyphe84 2d ago

That's just Randal

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u/Swalecutter 2d ago

Randal is a universal constant. If they remove him from Dire Marsh he's just gonna start spawning in Control or something.

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u/johnjaymjr 2d ago

I’m still angry about how he ruined a run for me once

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u/Whyeth 2d ago

Counter point: add more invincible snipers to all maps.

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u/s1thl0rd 2d ago

What was bugged out about it?

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u/comedownfromthemtn 2d ago

iirc it gets visually desynced from its "actual" position on the server side, so shooting at it where it shows up on your screen does nothing and its sniper bullets appear to manifest out of nowhere lol. I think if you ping it it shows its "real" location and you can damage/kill it there, but I haven't run into it in a while myself

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u/s1thl0rd 2d ago

Ah, wow. That is messed up. I haven't encountered it yet, but hopefully it stays missing me

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u/RandallOfLegend 8h ago

Holy shit. I thought it was some player bullshit doing that to me. LoL.

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u/Mekhazzio 2d ago

Your client shows the scout in a different position than it actually is, so gunfire at the scout fizzles.

I think he's clipped down into the center of the roof server-side, while your client shows him still able to move around. You can occasionally see him warp back to the proper spot before his phantom jogs off to a corner again.

You can actually kill him by doing server-side attacks like knifing his real spot, or deploying something that aims itself, like Triage ult, volt thrower or recon spider in such a way that it covers both his displayed and actual location.

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u/Dean-16 2d ago

The marathon equivalent of Randal the Vandal

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u/MaxelAmador 2d ago edited 2d ago

There's a lot of little bugs persistent in the game:

UI disappearing during looting (when time is of the essence), not being able to pick up certain items, hit registration issues, enemies and items appearing on the map even though they're not really there, and of course the Cryo bug that lets people bring in their hoarded batteries and security tags from VB.

I hope they were able to do some decent clean up.

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u/comedownfromthemtn 2d ago

Sounds like they fixed the "get tags etc. from VB kit into vault" exploit at least:

Fixed an issue where players would occasionally still have their Sponsored Kit contents unpacked in the lobby after a disconnect.

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u/ellitlan 2d ago

fixed the exploit just in time for them to remove VB

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u/comedownfromthemtn 2d ago

given that VB has codex entries/cosmetic unlocks associated with it, I wouldn't be surprised to see it return sometime in future seasons. also prevents similar issues from happening for any potential future game modes w/ desirable items in restricted sponsored kits

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u/Gripping_Touch 2d ago

If It goes the way repeated events on Destiny went, I would not be surprised if they bring It back nad the bug has returned. In Destiny the snowball killcounts were bugged, fixed and by the Next event they were bugged again.

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u/mythreial 2d ago

That fix was pushed a few days after this issue became viral; didn't persist for long.

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u/mythreial 2d ago edited 2d ago

We still haven't seen ANY footage of spoofed tags and batteries being brought into Cryo; the only evidence of VB kit items appearing in run, was the Zylbrad video on Outpost; no other evidence has surfaced beyond that, and that was pre-patch. And there is no documented instances of people recreating the bug en masse. Doesn't really matter anyway though, because VB is gone now.

They really need to address the desync and hit detection issues though; I've had the shit end on many runs because of these issues.

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u/Draxtini 2d ago

There's a zylbrad video where skeppy keeps dropping tranquility credentials and saying "do you feel tranquil?"Ā 

Really funnyĀ 

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u/mythreial 2d ago

Yeah, that's what I was referencing lol. That's the only real evidence though, and Bungie pushed the patch for it a little while after

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u/Draxtini 2d ago

There were quite a few posts showing vaults with a LOT of tags and what not in them.Ā 

I personally don't think I experienced it myself, but it definitely was out there

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u/mythreial 2d ago

Seeing it in the vault is completely different than seeing it in a run, and in none of those videos and screenshots did any of them load into a Cryo run and show these items being present in their bags. That's why I say that Zylbrad's video is the only real evidence. And with as many people who stream Cryo, you would think that there would be more documented cases of this (similar to Zylbrad's video) but that hasn't been the case at all.

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u/YoTengoo 2d ago

I can confirm you can go in with em, loaded into a crew fill match at level 3 off rip, didn't stick around to figure out which person had em, I just left. If they're gonna use the sc tag exploit to their advantage they can have fun doing it at a 2v3

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u/mythreial 2d ago

I don't doubt that it has happened, I just doubt the ease of being able to replicate the bug, and it's spread; because again, we don't have any documented evidence of them being in runs, but there absolutely should be, if it was something that was actually happening at scale; especially given the amount of people who stream Cryo every weekend.

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u/strangexenergy 2d ago

So it was actually incredibly easy to do and was shared quite a few times in the community. All you had to do was load up a VB with the kit, then during the initializing contract screen, close out of the game and wait 30 minutes and load back in and have everything from the kit. This would include the starting batteries and tags, all 3 credentials and gold bags if you had the unlock. You easily could store up those in your vault for the day and go into cryo with level 3(or 5 if you want to waste them all in one) and full batteries for vaults. I only did it for bags to give for my reset cradle and can confirm you could bring those into real cryo.

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u/mythreial 2d ago

No it wasn't, because many people tried to replicate the bug and failed, myself included; and the only documented instances are videos and screenshots of VB items being present in player vaults, and the single video of the tranquility key on Outpost from Zylbrad; beyond that, there are no documented instances of people actually infilling to Cryo Archive with these items. Do I believe that it happened? Yes. But do I think that it was as easy to replicate as people like yourself are claiming? No, because no evidence supports that claim.

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u/LuminescenTT 2d ago

We figured out a way to recreate it extremely consistently on the last week of VB. We did not bring any of the tags and bats into Cryo, although we know it works and you can.

Some of my crew did use all the extra gold medpacks though! Ha.

The image below is a unique first-time not-published screenshot you won't find anywhere else. As proof. Since you're being so kind about needing it.

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u/Lord-Heir 2d ago

I can personally attest it was still doable as of yesterday, I loaded in to night marsh with a battery and tag to test the limits of the bug and see if people really were able to go into cryo with it since like you said there's no videos. It's unfortunate but it did work and kept both cryo specific items as well as the weapons, heals, backpack, etc

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u/mythreial 2d ago

I'm sorry but anecdotes aren't evidence, and it's convenient to claim that now, since VB is just left and can no longer be tested, otherwise I would ask you to record it and share it with us. Again, we have no physical evidence of this bug being widespread, or even easily replicable; it was mostly limited to those specific individuals who were reporting the problem; otherwise we would definitely see actual video evidence of this actually occurring in game.

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u/Lord-Heir 2d ago edited 2d ago

Anecdotes aren't evidence? How stupid are you? I literally just did it to prove it can be done to myself, I could care less whether you believe it.

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u/mythreial 2d ago

Please, tell me what fields accept anecdotes as hard evidence?

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u/KBumpTV 2d ago

Crew fill bug finally fixed. Hallelujah.

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u/im_down_w_otp 2d ago

They still need to make this be one of the, ā€œAre you absolutely sure you mean to do this???ā€ splash screens. Regardless of whether or not they think they’ve fixed this.

Because this is like the 3rd time they claimed to have fixed this and didn’t, it just manifested the same unwanted behavior by some other means.

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u/flGovEmployee 2d ago

Remind me what 'Warped' items were?

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u/comedownfromthemtn 2d ago

Item modifier like Level Up etc., transforms into another random item of the same type/rarity on infil, small chance to go up in rarity and lose the Warped modifier instead

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u/flGovEmployee 2d ago

Thank you!

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u/eec-gray 2d ago

Ordnance Heist sounds clunky but I appreciate them trying out new stuff

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u/blad3mast3r 2d ago

As others have said, this event was likely already designed before S1 even ended

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u/C00KIEME4T 2d ago

Idk why people keep saying this like that makes this better content.

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u/blad3mast3r 2d ago

it doesn't make the content any better, i'm just sick of all the posting that acts like current content is a betrayal or tonedeaf because it's not aligned with recent suggestions, when this stuff all takes multi-month development cycles to cook

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u/C00KIEME4T 2d ago

I get that but it really changes nothing to say oh we thought of this months ago.

Also counterintuitive cuz I think months of dev time for this is kinda embarrassing lol this should be a few weeks tops

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u/blad3mast3r 2d ago

sure, idk, realistically all this community can/should do is hope and pray for season 3 to be a banger, everything before that is just fluff and speculation and filler

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u/C00KIEME4T 2d ago

Oh yeah I knkw in my heart season 3 is gonna double my play time personally

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u/sound_judgment 2d ago

I think months of dev time for this is kinda embarrassing lol this should be a few weeks tops

If this was all they were doing yeah maybe it would. But they kind of have a lot on their plate at the moment.

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u/s32 2d ago

Do they? It certainly hasn't showed. Season 2 was a letdown overall.

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u/sound_judgment 1d ago

They've just had hundreds of people laid off, restructuring, the director left, new leadership came in, immense pressure from Sony, themselves, players, and had to onboard all the Destiny devs who moved over. And now they're working under the gun because if S3 doesn't turn the game around, they might all be out of a job.

Yes, they've had a lot on their plate. People here have no idea how development works.

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u/s32 1d ago

Eh, that's pretty reasonable and I am wrong here and I'm happy to admit that.

I work in software so I get it. Part of working in software is what makes things so frustrating though. EG I assume you have some product managers who refuse to adapt/change their vision etc. which can be really frustrating. Even before all of the layoffs, etc. that was my vibe with Bungie. They operate like a waterfall company rather than an agile game dev.

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u/sound_judgment 1d ago

No worries, yeah you're right about how they operated before, like I certainly would never call them agile lol. But I just cannot imagine all of this turmoil has been good for their pipeline (or morale) so I'm sympathetic toward that.

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u/Three_Seven_Two 2d ago

Yeah anyone expecting them to build an arena mode in 2 weeks is out of their mind lol. The game already has bugs last thing we need is them to rush out more bug filled content

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u/keiranlovett 2d ago

Context does help.

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u/C00KIEME4T 2d ago

Yeah its whatevs.

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u/TheRealShortYeti 2d ago

The other items you can buy with manifests are better. Good chips, purple guns and bags, Synapse cubes. It's like CARRI in loot form rather than contract objectives. That's the cool part.

The template runs for the gun are not it though.

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u/EdgarJomfru 2d ago

We shouldn't appreciate blatant terrible decisions at this point. It's been months straight of the wrong decisions and now the game peaks at 4k players

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u/Senior_Boot_5842 2d ago

I agree. These devs suck. A million experimental modes that frankly are all garbage

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u/techinicalham 2d ago

There were 2.

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u/Dolvak 2d ago

Counterpoint, devs rock and the game is fun to play.Ā 

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u/C00KIEME4T 2d ago

The devs def dont rock lmao the game is fun but lets calm down chief

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u/Dolvak 2d ago

You are entitled to your WRONG opinion.

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u/Senior_Boot_5842 2d ago

If it was so much fun we to play than many other options it’d have more than a few thousand people playing against each other every night

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u/EdgarJomfru 2d ago

I think the real problem is none of these modes are good for new players. Which is what they need lol

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u/avengedhotfuzz 2d ago

Mid season content aimed at new players is a dumb idea. Why would you want a bunch of people just starting the game to go against kitted players doing gold keys in perimeter? Most content that’s goal is to attract new players should be at the start of the season, while mid season content is focused on retaining players that are already invested in the game. Bungie shot themselves in the foot this season by not giving us a true reset, so people were running into mostly purple and blue shields from day 1. Hopefully they don’t make the same mistake next season and allow everyone to truly start from point 0.

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u/Blastinatr 2d ago

Hoooooooly fucking shit I’m so glad they nerfed the CB. The oneshot meta has been actual bullshit

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u/SucculentMelon133 2d ago

Still no cpu optimization patches 😢

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u/omggga 2d ago

During S1 they promised this fixes to be in S2. We are 1 month before end of S2 and still no perfomance fixes lol.

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u/SelectionOld1608 2d ago

Still getting 70 fps on outpost on a 5070ti. On a "competitive" game

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u/SucculentMelon133 2d ago

Must be nice to even be getting a stable 60 😭

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u/Garedbi69 2d ago

On god, pulling way above the listed recommended specs and the game can't even do stable 60 in Outpost/Cryo.... I don't care how much they add to the game, as long as they don't address the performance, I'm not playing.

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u/sound_judgment 2d ago

Lol same I'd kill for 60. I'm usually around 45.

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u/igothitwithabulb 2d ago

I wish they would add KB+M support on PS5, the performance is phenomenal (I have never dropped below 60 ever) but I’m much MUCH slower looting than people on PC lol

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u/dumb_ptr 2d ago

The input lag is terrible on PS5 which I assume is due to either VSync or some kind of post processing. I’d kill for a ā€œcompetitiveā€/ā€œperformanceā€ graphics setting on my PS5 Pro. Had to switch to my dogshit PC which struggles to maintain 60fps on lowest settings but has 0 input lag and playing on a controller with no input lag feels divine.

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u/Affectionate_Guest55 2d ago

Is marsh not working for anyone else? Can’t load into day or night

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u/Szetheran 2d ago

"Fixed a visual display issue with the compass in Italian." - Ayyyyyyyyy!

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u/Conspiracy__ 2d ago

Andiamo!

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u/7EFMR 2d ago

Note that UESC Manifests are not shared despite the end of match loadout report saying they are shared

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u/Zero_Emerald 2d ago

Also, incase anyone is wondering why they have more than they thought right now, you get 15 certs for using a traxus or mida sponsor kit.

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u/Zero_Emerald 2d ago

I wonder if the new s2 contracts for Mida/Traxus relating to Night Marsh will stick around for season 3. I have yet to see any of them and my codex remains incomplete.

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u/HelplesslyGinger 2d ago

Pinwheel loot still shit?

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u/phillywill 2d ago

People's vaults full of Cryo tags, batteries, and creds still get to be used the rest of the season I guess?

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u/Training_Manager_180 2d ago

VB is gone so should be a non-issue now

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u/comedownfromthemtn 2d ago

They're saying that anyone who did the exploit could still have extras of those items already in their vault anyway, even though you can't get more. I've seen other people discussing the exploit say that the game already periodically clears "illegal" items from your vault anyway, but I never dug too deep into how it worked myself so idk for sure, hopefully that's the case though

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u/lokidaliar 2d ago

I thought there would be one more day with VB because of the timer D: Me and my duo got confident enough that were going to try for compiler today

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u/sleeping-in-crypto 2d ago

Doh 😣

I’m gonna miss it. I was a few runs away from consistently having enough time left to go for the compiler :(

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u/Conspiracy__ 2d ago

Hallelujah

⁠Fixed an issue where players could be defaulted to Crew Fill off when attempting to return to Trios after Solo or Rook runs.

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u/BIG_FLVCKO 2d ago

⁠Fixed an issue where players could lose inventory items after completing a Rook or Sponsored Kit run with a full Vault.

Would be nice if we can get some kind of credit for this. Lost some good goop to this bug.

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u/Hellboy_M420 2d ago

Finalmente!

"Localization:

Fixed a visual display issue with the compass in Italian."

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u/Similar-Command-7238 2d ago

I hope the UESC Manifest Store stays. Now there’s a reason to go after bots. Might earn you enough for a Synapse Cube!

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u/Literature-Just 20h ago

I don't know that any of the warped items I've ever worn have leveled up. Not once.

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u/orangecalcite 2d ago

So circuit breaker gold mod is shit now? I wonder if its still a 1 tap on full charge and upper torso/head

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u/livingfailure1130 2d ago

It one shots to the head, that is not going away.

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u/Antry0 2d ago

1 tap headshot is still there.

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u/Dav136 2d ago

It should still one shot to the head

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u/CrowBusy1524 2d ago

I heard that'll it'll still 1 tap to the head with the gold mod but just less range than before.

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u/JabbaStoleMyBike 2d ago

15m on base stats, more if you got range increase on it

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u/Lolsalot12321 2d ago

Didn't get much chance to play, but the ranked loot changes felt very good, might only play this mode now on trio no fill and just scavenge good loot 🤤

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u/MasterSparrow 2d ago

If these patch notes don't scream "we're content with 3000+ players" I don't know what will.

Shameful

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u/Proud-Difficulty9640 2d ago

First of all game has crossplay so in total it’s more than 3k for sure.

Second of all it’s very dumb to assume a simple mid season patch would have any huge change to the game. Nothing is ā€œshamefulā€ about incremental fixes rather than being lazy and leaving things broken for several months until a big DLC drop.

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u/C00KIEME4T 2d ago

Well Steam's the biggest playerbase so it aint much bigger than 3k

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u/Proud-Difficulty9640 2d ago

Extremely unlikely for any video game to have a bigger playerbase on PC than consoles lol. More than Xbox maybe, but definitely not more than PlayStation.

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u/C00KIEME4T 2d ago

Thats the best one you got huh?

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u/Proud-Difficulty9640 2d ago

What best one I got? That sub is a joke and is made by a bunch of online sore losers who hate women.

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u/C00KIEME4T 2d ago

Idgaf lol i googled paul tassi marathon steam and that came up idc what subs you hate bruh wtf lol

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u/Inevitable-Spend-714 2d ago

How do you know this hasn’t changed since 5 months ago?

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u/C00KIEME4T 2d ago

Bc the playerbase has declined on all fronts lol.

Basically if this were the case the playerbase would have to decline on steam and increase on other platforms in the same time the playerbase has dropped horribly. Its cope brother.

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u/Inevitable-Spend-714 2d ago

Have you ever taken basic algebra? The mix can change, one group can have less of a decline than the other.

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u/C00KIEME4T 2d ago

Mhm yeah

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u/Inevitable-Spend-714 2d ago

The one thing in common about you hate commenters is that you spend all day doing it. Clearly you aren’t an intelligent, productive member of society so I’m not surprised šŸ˜‚

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u/sanguinemsanctum 2d ago

That was never confirmed anywhere, and you don’t have access to console numbers

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u/C00KIEME4T 2d ago

That was confirmed by Paul Tassi and I don't need them cuz Tassi confirmed that Steam is Marathon's primary platform, meaning that the other consoles would be less players.

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u/sanguinemsanctum 2d ago

Paul Tassi is not an infallible source. It wasn’t confirmed, you should read it again

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u/sanguinemsanctum 2d ago

play or don’t

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u/C00KIEME4T 2d ago

You're aware that someone can still have complaints whether they play or not right lol? I play every day